A lie told often enough becomes the truth!

My apologies. I am new here and hit this thing in error. It was not my intention to resurrect this thread.

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[edit on 13-3-2005 by Bowyer]

For those wondering what the previous page was all about,
Gnosticism is the big lie.

The counterpoint being, Christianity as sold by the Church is the next biggest lie.

Rinse and repeat.

Knowledge is power.


If you store the world's knowledge..

all the knowledge from ancient times until now..

and store it and keep it secret..

that's the biggest wealth that you can have in the world.


Then you can sell chunks of that knowledge.

You could sell one chunk as one religion, another chunk as another religion..

and those chunks are so amazing to the people that you present it to..

who have had the knowledge hidden from them in the first place..

that it is revalationary..

and inspires belief and faith in that religion.


Now each chunk believes their chunk to be the holy truth..

but none of them see the whole truth..

and don't have access to all the knowledge that has been kept throughout the centuries..

by, collectively, what I call the Illuminati, and many others do..

the collecting of these old, old secret societies..

who have kept the libraries of conquered civilisations..

hoarded, held, sold and controlled.


Knowledge is power.

wrong thread!

[edit on 8-5-2005 by NeonHelmet]

A very interesting dot is a character named Philip LeMarchand.

Known as The Toymaker, in regards to his magic 'Hellraiser'-like toy boxes.

And also known as The Professor, a nickname given to him by Benjamin Franklin.



The dots.. they are a-connecting.

I just want to say that I wish I had come across this thread earlier. its hard to come into something at pg 15, but I want to say thank you to all who contributed to it.

This thread is very insightful of the Masons, although it did take centre stage, and was not as relevant to the whole when considering what this thread was about, but very informative.

it is a shame it turned into a slanging match, as some of those that were banned did make good comments.

for all invilved in this.
M@

8)

lol you gotta love this! is this a legal post ROFL?


i hava to add this, the masons in this thread did not get banned because of anything they helped with in this thread!

just to clear out any misunderstandings!

also thank you for you kind words!

There is some stuff in this thread worth looking into for sure.

A while since this thread came into being now..

looking back I'm glad I just went with whatever i found.

seeking the truth you have to ruffle through the info and find stuff.

it isn't easy.. but i have found things out, and connected many dots.

are the rothschild the centre of it? weishaupt and 1776.
the 13 stars the 13 stripes and the 13 pyramid steps of 13 years.
on the phony funny $1 bill.

money-printing and 13.. rothschilds..
sun in the centre fire in the centre.. pyrAmid..
osiris, mithra, jesus and swastikas?

i would like to offer this article as an afterword..

as a guide to what lies out there..

thank you.

www.whale.to...
Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist

(Revised April 2000 - formerly SEVEN Traits)

by H. Michael Sweeney
Permission to reprint/distribute hereby granted for any non commercial use provided information reproduced in its entirety and with author information in tact.

1) Avoidance. They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility.

2) Selectivity. They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and-run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentatorbecome argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well.

3) Coincidental. They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and vanish with the reason.

4) Teamwork. They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength.

5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain.Or, one might more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do.

6) Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It's just a job, and they often seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally continue their old disinfo patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play that game -- where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up.

7) Inconsistent. There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray their true self/motives. This may stem from not really knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side of truth deep within.

I have noted that often, they will simply cite contradictory information which neutralizes itself and the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills (spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy pilots who don't have a college degree. Another claimed no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later claimed first-hand knowledge of it.

8 ) BONUS TRAIT: Time Constant. Recently discovered, with respect to News Groups, is the response time factor. There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially when the government or other empowered player is involved in a cover up operation:

1) ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT - FAST RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed towards truth.

2) When dealing in more direct ways with a disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR - there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay. This allows a sit-down team discussion on response strategy for best effect, and even enough time to 'get permission' or instruction from a formal chain of command.

3) In the NG example 1) above, it will often ALSO be seen that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the same 48-72 hours delay - the team approach in play. This is especially true when the targeted truth seeker or their comments are considered more important with respect to potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth sayer will be attacked twice for the same sin.

[edit on 23/6/06 by stoneskull]Permission to reprint/distribute hereby granted for any non commercial use provided information reproduced in its entirety and with author information in tact.

[edit on 23/6/06 by stoneskull]

[edited to include a url for citation and to use the ex tags -nygdan]

[edit on 23-6-2006 by Nygdan]

sion

zionism

spinning paradox

paradoxical double-think

george orwell wrote 1984 in 1948

www.youtube.com...


[edit on 27/6/06 by stoneskull]

Good and relevant post Stoneskull, you continue the battle against the NWO and all its associates!

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well being honest heer i probly no the most out of any body on this site who is not mason them selves.. and i probly no more then alot masons no .. iam not mason my self , but i have acess to lots of knoledge about them including 33 degrees ,, iam worthy as i have broken one of the 3 ways to become one as they would say i have found a key ,, but i will never be one ,, i must warn all of you who listn to what these masons have to say ,, they are telling you 75 percent of the truth ,,, they do not want to recruit you they are not an army trying to make war ,,, they are the elite ,,,they are upper class and we are lower class ,,, i already no masons are going to come and say i do not understand what iam talking about ,, but deep down they will ,,, and if they dont then im srry to say you ar enot of importance and you are nothing but a soldger... the reality is most masons are sucked in " the masons dunt care bout relgion" "in there cermonys they talk about john the baptist " and about th e light ,, but they never say the light of god ,, and that is where they are tricked ,, cus intill u reech certain degrees you are left in the dust ,, the light reely is the light of lucifer ,, that is why masons have all these different symbols ,, who do you think the all seeing eye is ... it represnts lucifer watching over everything ,, iam part of 5 percent that is 100 percent and masons no what i meen ,, most of you peopel are fools who want answers handed to you ,, that will not happen you must earn them ..hitlers famous quote "how great it is for leaders that men do not think "