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Originally posted by openyourmind1262
I read this about two years ago. Being an atheist I thought it was a good,logical, practical arguement for my own view. It is about an easy an example as I can see it, of showing the illogical thought of an "Omni powerful being"
godisimaginary.com...
Originally posted by openyourmind1262
I read this about two years ago. Being an atheist I thought it was a good,logical, practical arguement for my own view. It is about an easy an example as I can see it, of showing the illogical thought of an "Omni powerful being"
It shows the true failure of the christian thought process. I'll take logic,math, science, and my own life experience. I'll keep on being human & being human towards those I meet. Life is short, this we all know. I simply cannot live mine in a certain way as to satisfy something written in a book, when the reward promised is in no way been proven.
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by openyourmind1262
You know what I love about atheists???
They look for validation of their own personal beliefs and views as much as religous people do.
And then, they do the exact same thing...try to show how they are "right".
I find it all very amusing.
reply to post by Awen24
godisimaginary.com...
Originally posted by scolai
1: Prayer is a form of belief. Scientifically speaking, cancer patients who regularly pray, have spiritual support, or believe that they'll get better have a better chance than those who live in the cancer.
2. Refer to #1
3. This has no proof whatsoever. This just proves that people have worshiped gods throughout the ages. Logic? Hardly.
4. Check this guy out.
5. I agree with the fact that the bible is wrong. It has been mistranslated over the years, but this does NOT disprove the existance of a higher power. It just proves human error.
6. "God's plan" is a subjective ideal and therefore irrelevant.
7. If I was to see a ghost, and you didn't, does that mean I didn't see it? You're on ATS for god's sake. Weird # happens every day.
8. This one, I can agree with. People with all faiths have had NDEs in which they see their respective deities. This does not disprove there is no higher power. It just minimalizes the importance of NDEs.
9. See #4
10. Really? People not giving money to a church does not disprove the existance of a higher power.
This link is full of fuzzy logic. I'm only going through these 10, not to advocate christianity (as I'm NOT a christian), but to point out flaws in logic.
Originally posted by scolai
1: Prayer is a form of belief. Scientifically speaking, cancer patients who regularly pray, have spiritual support, or believe that they'll get better have a better chance than those who live in the cancer.
2. Refer to #1
3. This has no proof whatsoever. This just proves that people have worshiped gods throughout the ages. Logic? Hardly.
4. Check this guy out.
5. I agree with the fact that the bible is wrong. It has been mistranslated over the years, but this does NOT disprove the existance of a higher power. It just proves human error.
6. "God's plan" is a subjective ideal and therefore irrelevant.
7. If I was to see a ghost, and you didn't, does that mean I didn't see it? You're on ATS for god's sake. Weird # happens every day.
8. This one, I can agree with. People with all faiths have had NDEs in which they see their respective deities. This does not disprove there is no higher power. It just minimalizes the importance of NDEs.
9. See #4
10. Really? People not giving money to a church does not disprove the existance of a higher power.
This link is full of fuzzy logic. I'm only going through these 10, not to advocate christianity (as I'm NOT a christian), but to point out flaws in logic.
Originally posted by openyourmind1262
reply to post by openyourmind1262
As with any debate,one tries to find any evidence that bolsters their arguement. Do they not? Is the phyiscal evidence we have discarded as evidence? (ex: a whole bunch of fossils of dinosaurs). Or will the logic in belief of God be that God scattered the fossils & bones to test our faith? No. Logicical thinking & science tells us, the bones & fossils are real tangible hold in your hand evidence to bolster the side of God is imaginary.
Sorry for replying to myself, I'm new, give me time, it would be the christian thing to do.edit on 16-8-2011 by openyourmind1262 because: replied to myself, feeling dumb
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by openyourmind1262
reply to post by openyourmind1262
As with any debate,one tries to find any evidence that bolsters their arguement. Do they not? Is the phyiscal evidence we have discarded as evidence? (ex: a whole bunch of fossils of dinosaurs). Or will the logic in belief of God be that God scattered the fossils & bones to test our faith? No. Logicical thinking & science tells us, the bones & fossils are real tangible hold in your hand evidence to bolster the side of God is imaginary.
Sorry for replying to myself, I'm new, give me time, it would be the christian thing to do.edit on 16-8-2011 by openyourmind1262 because: replied to myself, feeling dumb
And now you are arguing about religion...not God. A specific belief like that has nothing to do with if god exist or not...it has to do if a specific religion is correct in their thinking or not.
For someone who talks about logic...you would think they would know the difference between an argument against the existence of god and an argument against a specific religion being correct.
Proving that a religion holds a belief that isn't logical does not in any way point to proof that "god is imaginary"....that is as illogical as saying I can show how illogical you are being, so you as an atheist is wrong, therefore god is real
I think you need to slow down, get a grasp on logic and don't rely on the arguments of others that you don't fully understand.
Where am I argueing about a specific religion.? They all have their own bibles, and each sect recognise's the other as being true. If you are a christian do you beleive the Muslim version? I would suppose it comes from my edit where I replied to myself and said it would be the christian thing to do? That's not an arguement by me about religion, it's me being sarcastic.
With all due respect, Outkast Searcher. You have an alien as an avatar and your mood states " Illogical"
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither nor willing? Then why call him God" Epicurus 33AD.
The so called proof of gods existance is the bible. Correct?
If massive flaws and contradictions fill the Bible and they can be shown. How is it logical to adhere to what it says? Is it pick and chose the verse's and sayings and stories that fit your particular arguement and ignore the contradictions. Because that's what I'm getting here.