Ron Paul's message hits America (RTnews)

I agree that believing he is a part of some conspiracy / a puppet is way too paranoid in that fact that then proofs there is no truth but only lies. And that type of thinking is only damaging and very little optimistic.

US is still in recession and very few economical cuts have been made thanks to the fact that elections are more important than the job since either they have election year for a potential president but the ones loosing has to pepare for election for their seats.

With all this turmoil i don't think he can do any difference from Obama. Even though he doesnt have the same fund relations the US politics is slow thanks to a thousand different views that almost never go the same way expept for the reaction of 9/11.

You make conspiracies out of nothing and talk about the importance of action. But there is no revolution in helping Ron Paul reaching out to everyone.

And with Bachkman actually winning votes its just scary. This vicious troll makes Sarah Palin look sensible, which i think we all can agree is #ed up.

THe midwest seems to have the power in the next election and you have so many social medias you can use to change.

Remember thats pretty much how the Obama crowd grew. Remember how we kinnda liked him in the start before we googled and found out about the gay hooker and the crack?

In politics we can only choose the lesser evil because it is impossible to get someone that will make everyone happy. But With America being the country that can stand between a balanced world economy and total collaps, the next candidate needs to have the experience to see the long run so that it can grow again.

No doubht that is Ron Paul. But will he get good people in the seats of economy, labour, etc. The people that together with the president will do the work. Thats the negative side with him. We don't see any potential runningmate. He is a loner in many ways. Thats a weak side

Or not?

Just the obeservation from the outside

reply to post by snowspirit


If we cant have him nobody can! He better win or I'm going to be mad

reply to post by NebulaZero


I'm in the same boat as you, except I'm not an army vet. I registered to vote when Obama was running but then when it came time to vote I got to thinking...there both idiots and liars why vote for either one.

reply to post by micmac08


You have Nigel Farage, he is as close to Ron Paul as I have seen and he is an excellent speaker. Like I said in another thread its too bad he lost against Cameron...I like Nigel, read his book, would love to see him run as VP to Ron P... I can dream...

He'll be brainwashed and transformed into every other president. he is no different. It is all fun and games now, but come election/presidential win, he'll turn 180

reply to post by russntx


So I guess your vote is based on Looks over inelegance and ideals? My wife voting that way and now so regrets it.

reply to post by lost artistic


Ron Paul is just a convenient pawnand it suits the purspose of TPTB to have him speak his mind. I dont doubt what he says, I doubt his conviction and remember he is old guard been in congress a long time. And suddenly when people are so dissolutioned by other options he is in the race of nomination. # hes nearly dead! Wake up. Its a very clever ploy that is working perfectly! He cannot be elected but what he can do is make it look like the dice are not loaded!!!

2 years from now after the next election the peoples dissatisfaction will still be as it is now!!!!! Simply because nothing will change whilst the US candidates for president are influenced and have their strings pulled by the status quo establishment! The only time the US will get positive and benefitial change is when they vote in an independent! But he/she would surely have an accident before that happened!
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Wake up US folk!!! Its time. How many times do you have to be conned. 12, 16 x 4?

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And America yawns.

Originally posted by Jordan River
He'll be brainwashed and transformed into every other president. he is no different. It is all fun and games now, but come election/presidential win, he'll turn 180

Never though about that but you're right. Every president always gets ten years older and in this case thats mortal...

unfortunately ron paul will never make it to the oval office. there are many reasons for this but the biggest ones have to do with we the people and the simple fact that the established gov't (or tptb) won't let it happen. tptb can't make any money or gain more power over us with him in office. as far as we the people go, the vast majority of the voting public either doesn't know enough about him and/or don't have the brains enough to vote for him. why do you think the feds won't clamp down on illegal immigration? yes that's right, to help flood the country with the kinds of voters tptb want (among other reasons). nevermind us constitution lovers.

you see, ats fans, the dumb sheeple and tptb prefer the status quo. ron paul would upset that applecart albeit in a good and productive way. i mean look at all the sheeple that voted for the idiot we have now! men and women alike swooned for this community organizer. why? because of their lack of knowledge and because they were too gullible. these are the same people who will be voting again, mind you, and they still aren't smart enough to jump ship as it sinks with them on it.

which leads me to one question for all you folks here at ats. would voting for ron paul be a wasted vote? i ask because i have always voted for him when his name was on a ballot. but he keeps losing and will always lose. so is that in essence a wasted vote? should i vote for one of the lesser of the two more likely candidates to actually get elected? i pretty much know the answer but was curious what your opinions might be.

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I did the same thing and didnt vote for either. And I am an avid voter. I just cant understand the saying that you should vote for the lesser of two evils. They both sucked IMHO

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I see your point and its sad that this would be hiss faith.

US is a very strange country. Its like a family. From the outside it seems everyone gets alone pretty fine. But from the inside its all messed up royally and to the extent that it can't last any longer.

Ive sadly started to loose that hope about america being the frontrunner in peace, values and as a society. But it so divided for reasons connected to values that no longer can be kept in order to sustain in the future. Such as the no taxes.

The thing about taxes is that they are only a reflection of greed. Over time the balance gets more fair and the middle grows and the poor and the rich are groups that shrinks.

15 years ago people fantasized about a more global world where fairtrade was possible and a farmer in Jamaica would get the same rights as a bug farmer in the US.

Today the demand for lower prices is the most common demand while the rights of local farmers has been litteraly killed.

Originally posted by Jobeycool
I must also admit that Rick Perry appears like He will become the front runner and most likely to win.

Originally posted by Jobeycool
However I like Ron Paul's old fashion common sense ideas but I doubt enough people will vote for Him.

I agree with both statements. When Rick Perry's successes and failures become center stage, majority of the Republican voters will see him as a strong leader. Ron Paul is an interesting and hardcore politician, but many of his comments are scaring voters away.

As people start to see Paul, Bachmann, and Perry debate each other, the dynamic of their arguments will drastically change.

Rick Perry is a very-very strong and successful politician. Even though Perry has shortcomings, like everyone else, his track record in job creation and business establishing will make a strong impression. Perry also has a strong Latino and African American vote. Irony, Perry is a Christian who also has a Muslim voter following.

Does Ron Paul or Bachmann have that type of success?

Let us see what happens next.

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This and your thinking is why US will never change!!! Voters are far too niave!!!!

He is just part of the ploy and its niave to suggest its para.

I hope when the election is finished you come back and make some comment/Obs

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Turmoil is they will be US is on the agenda because the US folk are just fooled every time and forget easily about past elections etc. They are about to be hoodwinked again and guess what they will be until they decide that voting for an independent that has 24/7 sold armour plate security will make the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Common sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome post and videos thanks for this. Unfortunately I do not see him winning.. But we can hope. We all know who controls things. If he did win then id be a little concerned. S-F


Deebo

Originally posted by expat2368

Originally posted by GLaDOS
Ron Paul is the only person that can save the US. Sadly, he will never be allowed to become president.

Don't be so sure of that! What he is saying resonates with both liberals and conservatives in many ways. He could get such a following that he will overwhelm the naysayers.

I will have to agree. I am a left leaning libertarian, social domestically and conservative on foreign issues. I have supported Ron Paul since his run in 08' He has altered his message concerning domestic spending significantly since the last election and this should help him get more votes. Specifically, he recognizes that social services at home should only be scaled back over time in conjunction with returning personal wealth back into the hands of people. He realizes the corporate and central banking, protected by government, have hampered the ability for most Americans to produce a living wage.

He we get more support, once his message gets around. He is not radical as many claim. He makes more common sense then any sneering politician I have ever heard.

Originally posted by lost artistic
We don't see any potential runningmate. He is a loner in many ways. Thats a weak side

Let's push for Jesse Ventura, drag your butt back up here from Baja, your country needs you! Paul/Ventura 2012!!!

To those who ask if voting for Dr. Paul would be a wasted vote: Only for those without the conviction of doing the right thing. Only for the sissies who are afraid to go down swingin' if it comes to that.

IMO it's a wasted vote when we idiotically accept the system and give it our approval through that "non-wasted" vote. The whole deal about a "wasted vote" is mass child psychology and it keeps many in line. If you buy it, it works.

A lot of true patriots have known that they wouldn't live to see the difference they made. Every vote in opposition to the putrid system we now have carries forward in some way.

If you believe Ron Paul is the better candidate then hell no it ain't a wasted vote...it's a vote of conviction. And that's never a waste.

reply to post by RoguePhilosopher


You've made your point, how many times now? We have no reason to believe he's insincere. None. Show us a REASON to believe he's bought, some sort of shady financial dealings like all the rest have maybe, something...otherwise you're just trying a little too hard to accuse him of being a pawn of TPTB. It seems more likely that you're working for them, at this point.