Aliens = Nephilim (Demons)

You lost me at "No Life beyond the Van Allen Belt"

Seriously, I find it ridiculous that people believe there is no other life forms in the Universe, let alone your claim that aliens and demons are one in the same. Demons and ghosts are not real people. They are created in your mind. Don't believe me? Take a couple hits of Acid and I bet you'll see demons. The fact that you may need a drug to have the ability to see such "demons" is no different than the person that has such a well ingrained faith in religion that they believe a demon is trying to overtake their body or that they believe so endlessly that ghosts exist. If you believe in something enough you can trick yourself into seeing it. People who claim possession have serious cases of schizophrenia, and more often than not were raised in a household which promoted their faith in such beliefs.

I buy into the Alien abduction theory. I believe ET's have visited Earth, I believe numerous races of Aliens have visited Earth, I'll even buy into some of these ET's abducting people for personal reasons. Now if you are saying that some people who thought they were possessed were actually abducted, cool I'll believe that. I can understand someone being in such shock that they had no other explanation than it being a Demon, I mean Religion is everywhere, so it makes sense to rationalize that it was a demon rather than an ET.

The fact is that mathematical probability and science are enough evidence that life exists elsewhere. If you believe in evolution you have to believe that there is life somewhere else. Due to the infinite number of galaxies and stars, the mathematical probability given the sample size provides 100% certainty that life exists elsewhere. Given the estimated age of our Universe and the elements which exist in our Universe there are unlimited variations of life which could exist. This paragraph alone discredits everything you have to say given you do not believe in life beyond the Van Allen Belt, like honestly, you really believe that, is this a joke, do you not see the stars at night? Did you not pass basic astronomy in high school?

Finally, not to troll but....
Given your grammar alone I can tell you are rather uneducated, your misuse of the variations of the word "there, their, they're" is all the evidence I need to discredit any intellectual argument you have towards the working of the Universe. I really hope this community eventually strafes away from the uninformed to the academic, because some of the bull I read is an insult to the intelligence of our species. And the Nazi's developed UFO's? LMFAO, the greatest scientist to ever come out of a German womb came to the wonderful world of USA and brought all his genius with him (if you have no idea who I'm talking about I wouldn't be surprised). Seriously people, how can you buy into this based on plagiarized views and a shoddy high school Youtube video to back it up....

www.youtube.com...

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Actually The Hitchhiker's Guide To the Galaxy disproves your statistics theory quite extensively.

Douglas Adams would be very upset with you. But he would laugh at the van allen belt idea also.

That is unless you believe that space is finite? Do believe space is finite?

If you don't you realize that cosmic stats are highly suspect as they require the division of infinity, which is 0 (essentially).

Enjoy your swamp mattress
uncyclopedia.wikia.com...

Originally posted by MasterGemini

Originally posted by Zeer0
reply to post by kykweer

 

But these UFO's have been seen video tapes and photo's have been taken, which means there is some sort of proof to this. And the fact that this has been happening for a very long time makes me believe these are ET's. Plus why cant they be just Aliens, what in this "Theory" makes so much sense that you came to the conclusion that these Aliens are shape shifting Demons? And use logic. No Fairy Tales. Lets get back to reality and maybe we can actually debate on things that are true.

What evidence do you have that they are in fact aliens from outer space?
All the photos show are objects in the sky, no indication of where they originally came from. Saying they are ET is jumping to just as many conclusions as those you aim to detract from. In previous posts there have been many links to people claiming possession and having similar experiences to the ET.

Much of the ufo info that has been addressed in the msm is tinged with attacks on Christianity. Why not mock the spirit worshipers of old who thought they had to make human sacrifices to their gods?

Ehem referring to the ancient aliens here. What kind of aliens would enslave people and demand human sacrifices like the Mayans and Sumerians? Sound fairly wicked to me.

Now there is much symbolism in left from these peoples to indicate they were familiar with the pineal gland.
I am referring to the acorn that is at the Vatican and in much Sumerian art and so on.

The idea is that '___' is released by the pineal which transfers one to the dream world. (See Joe Rogan '___')

This would hint to me that they were deeply interested in the dreamworld/ spirit world whatever, and lend credibility to the idea that these are entities from another dimension and make contact via that avenue.

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Oh i dont know the only thing that makes me think this is the Pre 1950's UFO sightings and the use of such things in art, drawings depicting other worldly beings and objects that look like flying saucers going back over 20,000 years ago. But the difference is that there is documentation of such things in the past and now in the present. There has been no documentation of Angles and Demons roaming around for everyone to see like there is UFO's which make me to believe that these these Aliens, Angles and Demons are connected but what we used to think of as Angles and Demons were Extraterrestrial Beings. And let me ask you, are there any reporting of people actually seeing Angles and Demons flying around? The answer is of course no but there are still sightings of UFO's.


Maybe some of these Extraterrestrials are bad. Just like there are good and bad people. Doesnt mean these things are Demonic.

Originally posted by MollyStewart
reply to post by stevcolx

 

Never mix God and Jesus BS with Aliens.

What I find amusing about your post is that you consider God and Jesus BS but Aliens....fine, no problem!!
A Creator is not as far fetched as one might think it is simply that science is yet to catch up and the two; Science and a Creator Source are not mutually exclusive. There is supporting mathematical data to suggest intelligent design. The Fibonacci sequence is a place to start and then you have quantum research on the verge of discovering a god particle.
What I am more inclined to call BS on is Alien life forms coming billions of light years through space to engage a more primitive race in vile, seemingly useless experiments designed to create fear in the victim for years on end without ever seeming to change their modus operandi. These "Aliens" as you refer to them leave no physical evidence of encounters, always operate under the cover of darkness, are all malevolent and have an agenda that consists of instilling fear and pain in their victims/humanity. They hide, they lie, they do not like Jesus, shrink away from the name and they do not like righteous courage or anger when they are caught by a lucid human.
Why would super intelligent aliens with such advanced technology from some far off galaxy to all outward appearances display the characteristics of a human Arch type if not to mislead and deceive. They have all the hallmarks of demonic entities but sure, call them malevolent entities if the terminology makes you feel better. I don't buy the Alien theory, all is clearly not what it appears to be and the more serious research done is beginning to uncover a very sinister spiritual phenomena that has been plaguing mankind since we began scratching crude pictures on cave walls.

Great post this pretty much sums it up for me... I'm sure this will be very hard for some prideful people to accept but they are asking to be deceived. The truth does not change, what you just said is more evidence than anyone could wish for in knowing that these things are demonic. But Its up to the individual to connect the dots no1 is going to do it for you.

Originally posted by caladonea
Here are some interesting quotes and a website about the UFO Bible connection which I believe proves there are beings from other planets.

"The Lord Yhovah of the Old Testament, who claimed to be the Lord Jesus of the New Testament, is described as flying in thick clouds, swift clouds, bright clouds, dark clouds, white clouds, low clouds great clouds, and fiery clouds......."

"There are 362 verses describing natural and manmade objects as vehicles in the Bible."

"The fact that the objects described in the Bible are controlled, flying craft, is borne out of the flight characteristics of those objects. In Bible text the objects associated with the Elohiym are shown to exhibit rapid , prolonged flight, they ascend and descend....."

Here is the link: www.bibleufo.com...

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Repeat,,,repeat...

I believe in God and Jesus too, but I do not believe aliens are demons , the reason for this is in the bible too, just have a read to:

Jn.10:6
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.


and if we meditate this piece, we could understand that God, subtlety make us aware that we are not the only "sheep" (civilization, race, intelligent being) our lord and shepherd has created.
also this would explain the existence of the estrange/fantastic creatures there are in Hell (also found in Heaven), according to some famous testimonials,there are anthropomorphic demons and also grotesque with completely different anatomy.

I believe there is only one heaven and one hell, for all the intelligent creatures and races god has created.

And we and other alien civilizations may be being haunted by the also universal demon or a possible local planetary demons.
We cant mistake demons with aliens, because demons are fallen angels, all of them being the army of followers who rebelled with lucifer against God.
and angel it's not like a terrenal/planetary creature in any ways, it's a higher being, also the demons.

we must remember that God moves in mysterious ways and we may never be able to understand His purpose.

Originally posted by 3nlightened
Demons and ghosts are not real people.

Ghost's are demons Bible clearly states the soul cannot return as a spirit after it has passed..

Originally posted by 3nlightened
The fact that you may need a drug to have the ability to see such "demons"?

Really? Just because you haven't seen any doesn't mean they are not there... i haven't seen China but i know its there... Same go's for demons. Are you claiming that the number of cases of demonic possession are not real? Furthermore what about the countless cases of these demonic spirits moving psychical objects and throwing them around the room? This must be all schizophrenia too right even though sane people have witnessed these strange things happening. I guess under your way of thinking we must class everything we do not fully understand as being a case schizophrenia. Wow... are you sure your living in reality?

Originally posted by 3nlightened
Is no different than the person that has such a well ingrained faith in religion that they believe a demon is trying to overtake their body or that they believe so endlessly that ghosts exist.

Pure ignorance... These occurrences often happen to normal people, just out the blue that never had the religious beliefs to begin with, i guess they had a mental retardation too right?

Originally posted by 3nlightened
People who claim possession have serious cases of schizophrenia, and more often than not were raised in a household which promoted their faith in such beliefs.

Actually i see quite the opposite happening... I see more and more children being raised in an atheist materialistic world view then ever before, and then we wonder why society is in such poor shape.

Originally posted by 3nlightenedI buy into the Alien abduction theory. I believe ET's have visited Earth, I believe numerous races of Aliens have visited Earth, I'll even buy into some of these ET's abducting people for personal reasons. Now if you are saying that some people who thought they were possessed were actually abducted, cool I'll believe that. I can understand someone being in such shock that they had no other explanation than it being a Demon, I mean Religion is everywhere, so it makes sense to rationalize that it was a demon rather than an ET.

Call everyone who has a spiritual experience a schizophrenic and believe these things are from other planets with out one slice of proof, whilst ignoring the huge amount of similarity's between these so called "aliens" and demons which Ive demonstrated in the first post of this topic.

Awesome... that's solid strategy in denying ignorance without looking at all the facts!

Originally posted by 3nlightenedDue to the infinite number of galaxies and stars, the mathematical probability given the sample size provides 100% certainty that life exists elsewhere.

Because your omnipresent and can see everything in the universe so you know that as a solid straight fact right...

Originally posted by 3nlightenedGiven the estimated age of our Universe and the elements which exist in our Universe there are unlimited variations of life which could exist.

Well to believe that you would have to believe in evolution which i don't because its a flat out lie. And the universe is a young universe that being under 10'000 years old as all the evidence points too.

Originally posted by 3nlightenedFinally, not to troll but....
Given your grammar alone I can tell you are rather uneducated, your misuse of the variations of the word "there, their, they're" is all the evidence I need to discredit any intellectual argument you have towards the working of the Universe.

Because grammar is the corner stone of knowledge. Right...

HI! I'm on reading this thread so maybe it was said already, sorry then...
Essentially I agree with the main idea. Not with every detail.

I've got 2 questions

1.Do you think there are also Lord's angels manifesting in the same way (and is it possible according to the Bible) or it's just "deception and bad stuff only"?
2. When will they (1/3 of angels fallen with Lucifer) be striked down on earth's ground? Is it now, soon, or it was done already in the past or on the spiritual level?

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Well the goetia is book of summoning daemons.

Goetia means grammar

Daemons is greek for wise ones

So it is entirely possible that grammar is the path to wisdom.

LoL I hope you can take a joke

Originally posted by PapagiorgioCZ
1.Do you think there are also Lord's angels manifesting in the same way (and is it possible according to the Bible) or it's just "deception and bad stuff only"?

Nope, the lord can send Angels to now, this would be called divine intervention (which happens all the time).

Originally posted by PapagiorgioCZ
2. When will they (1/3 of angels fallen with Lucifer) be striked down on earth's ground? Is it now, soon, or it was done already in the past or on the spiritual level?

Its soon...

In the book of Revelation, we find described the last days of Satan and his end. Revelation’s 20th chapter describes Satan’s being bound and abyssed for a thousand years, at the hands of a great angel—doubtless Jesus Christ, who has the key of the abyss and who is the “seed” to bruise Satan’s head.—Compare Re 1:18; see ABYSS.

Satan’s final effort culminates in permanent defeat. The prophecy says that he is to be let loose for “a little while” as soon as Christ’s Thousand Year Reign is ended and that he will lead rebellious persons in another attack upon God’s sovereignty; but he is hurled (along with his demons) into the lake of fire and sulfur, everlasting destruction.—Re 20:1-3, 7-10; compare Mt25:41

At that time Jesus can then turn the Kingdom back over to God and all things will be brought back in harmony with his will again.

Originally posted by Zeer0
reply to post by MasterGemini

 

You can see 2 Saucer Shaped Craft in this Tanzanian Painting and this has been Carbonated to 27,000 BC (29,000 YEARS AGO) Oh wait according to the Bible the world is only 6000 years old. Am i wrong?

Carbonated to 27,000 BC...

Yeah that's if you put the equipment in the hands of a secular scientist who supports evolution, give it to someone who know's how to read these things properly and i can guarantee you will get a much lower date.

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How does someones beliefs have to do with how old an artifact is? Ignorance is bliss huh?

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I believe space is infinite. Even if you believe space is finite, based on observable data alone, any probability matched to the sample size of our Universe becomes 1 (true). To believe space is finite limits your intellectual ability to comprehend Universal probabilities, and you really don't want that. You really can't argue this, unless you believe the Universe is rather small and finite, in which case the sample size is still large enough to incorporate all probabilities as being true. If you want to argue even further the size and probability of our Universe as being smaller I can still elaborate into the Calabi-Yau manifold and drop another 6 dimensions on you to compensate for those extra 0's missing in your model. Cosmic stats will always be highly suspect because a very large portion of our population are not intelligent enough to comprehend superstring theories (even google spellcheck is unaware of them ) and it does us no good to argue with them because while we can't provide hard evidence, numbers never lie.

I love Douglas Adams, and I enjoy his Fictional writings, but HHGTTG had little intelligence factor in it, any science that evolved off of it was derived by half baked mathematicians that probably work at CalTech