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Rights, at what expense? What EXPENSES! Dude, you act like if gays get the rights that everyone has that the earth will blow up or something.
I swear, society will not fall because people get equal rights.
Caz, you are out of your mind! What the hell did the gays do to you?
There are no legal reasons, no moral reasons, no sane reason to ban the same rights to gays as to everyone else.
Even if what you're saying about some gay rights agenda side-stepping the Constitution is true, it's sad state of affairs in this country that they would have to resort to those measures just to be seen as equal.
You speak of family values, are you suggesting that good values to teach include intolerance and superiority?
Hmm, do you think this will work with crimes too?
Not to mention that if the "stigma" and non-acceptance of that lifestyle were to be removed, it may even contribute to less people adopting that lifestyle,
This in no way means they will ever attempt to do it either. Kids want everything, but as adults we learn this idea is not always the best thing for us. Just because something CAN be done, doesnt mean it SHOULD. This is part of growing up...the learning that somethings can/should be intolerated. When did this idea of everything goes become good, and rules/boundaries become bad?
The more you tell your kids not to do something, the more they'll wanna do it.
Originally posted by James the Lesser
Tach, that pretty good. But yes, was the FBI after him? Has he been brought to court for treason? No, cause even the dumbass government knows he isn't a gay "mole", "gerbil", or "hamster".
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Originally posted by CazMedia
So which concerns you more here is what i really want to know?
Is it more important that gays can marry, or that the founding principals of this nation are being abused/side-tracked?
It is a sad state of affairs, that a minority special intrest group, that has never been denied the right to vote, the right to own property, been legally segregated, or had any restrictive legislative laws directed directly at causing their group to suffer, feels like theyre soo special/oppressed that they can take it upon themselves to hijack democracy to get their way.
No one is saying they are second class citizens, but im sure as hell not going to agree that they are more important that other citizens too. Just like the rest of us have to play by the rules, so does this special interest group.
As far as "superiority" i cant see where ive advocated this idea. To me this is subjective...superior, equal, inferior, these are all degrees of measurment/comparison on a scale. Equality is not always a great place to be as some people can never be equal in certain circumstances. (i.e. the avg woman is not as strong physically as the avg man...therefore to expect them to be able to compete "equally" in say the NFL, would not be considered a fair match...yet under total equality, they would be expected to. How equal/fair would that be?)
As far as teaching your kid intolerance...DUH! Hell YES!
Certain types of behaivior is indeed intolorated by society...and if you fail to teach your kids these societal boundaries, you are setting them up to fail. Would you tolorate your 6yr old shoplifting while shopping with you at target? Would you tolorate your 10yr old being a bully and physically assaulting other kids?
Hmm, do you think this will work with crimes too?
This is flawed logic. If you remove barriers (intolorance) to certain ideas that mankind will want to do them less??? Why do you think the law was made to start with? Because people wouldnt accept not doing what they wanted until there was a concequence for doing it. (theft per say)
This in no way means they will ever attempt to do it either. Kids want everything, but as adults we learn this idea is not always the best thing for us. Just because something CAN be done, doesnt mean it SHOULD. This is part of growing up...the learning that somethings can/should be intolerated. When did this idea of everything goes become good, and rules/boundaries become bad?
Originally posted by TrueLies
this thread topic is so gay, I hate looking at it... Why do you guys keep posting in it?? Oh wait, i'm sorry maybe ya'll are gay because ya'll seem to enjoy the drama of it all... Thorry, I let you get back to your thilly argumenths..
Originally posted by TrueLies
sure! But i'm just sick of seeing this thread at the top... I mean you guys beat this subject to death already, and all I see here is a bunch of arguing...
Originally posted by TrueLies
Don't try bait me too buddy i've seen your posts and your very good at getting people to argue with you... And you don't stop!!
So i'm done after this, you can respond but I won't answer...
So yes I am, but I don't have to be political in every aspect of my life... I mean, is this gay mole thing a joke??
It's just tiring to see... It's not funny, it's not interesting, it's not enlightening... It's just thilly...
Originally posted by TrueLies
Thilly me, I should of just let this thread wiggle down to the bottom of the screen... After this post i'll do just that...
Originally posted by 27jd
I would like to do the same, but tomorrow or the next day, Caz will respond, and before he posts my quotes he will put things like 27jd says, or 27jd continues, because he knows that annoys me, then he will post his outrageously ignorant reasoning that makes my eyes want to bleed as I read them, and I will be forced to respond.
Originally posted by 27jd
I would like to do the same, but tomorrow or the next day, Caz will respond, and before he posts my quotes he will put things like 27jd says, or 27jd continues, because he knows that annoys me, then he will post his outrageously ignorant reasoning that makes my eyes want to bleed as I read them, and I will be forced to respond.
[edit on 31-8-2004 by 27jd]
Originally posted by TrueLies
No you won't be......If anything he gets his rocks off by trying to make you respond to his ignorant comments... See he thinks he's right... All the time.. How can you respond to somebody who just looks for an argument? You give him satisfaction when you respond to him which will continue to fuel the fire and then i'm going to have to keep looking at the stupid subject line when I come into the pit... Which makes my eyes bleed too... Just don't respond, I know you respond to EVERYTHING someone says to you, but you don't have to, especially in this case... Please oh please don't, I can't take looking at this subject line anymore it's driving me crazy!
Originally posted by intrepid
At least he answers you. I find his behavior to be undefendable. Twice I have blown his theories out of the water only to be ignored until he is pushed. How can anyone take this seriously?
Originally posted by 27jd
It's a curse more than a blessing. Did you read in his last post that he actually advocates teaching intolerance to children? It will serve him right if he does have kids, when his kid grows up to be gay, he is so ignorant to the fact thats almost always what happens.