London Riots, Is USA Next?

riots here would be unacceptable as it would bring the police state to your front door.

just like in england, watching bbc when i woke up this morning, there were people screaming at the mayor for more protection!! LOL you know what that means?? more police on the streets at your expense! WOW. win win for police and insurance companies hey?? getting all those contracts to rebuild. while more citizens lose.

it's hilarious. people are so scared for their lives they cant even defend their own cities without police, who cant either!!

To answer the question of the thread, Yes.

TPTB are pushing "we the people" more and more. Again, it doesn't matter which side you are on. They will play one against the other to their advantage. In the end...

...riots, looting, marshall law, police state. About 50% of the population receives some sort of government assistance. If the governments shuts down (really shuts down) and those checks stop, you bet there will be riots.

The stage is set and there isn't a corporate jet that can save you.

reply to post by Juston


Sounds to me you have turned into a me me me me me tea party admirer, and what you basically do is support the oligarchy who would kill you for a dollar and a bigger golf course as they killed our children in Iran.

That’s what is the result of what you delude yourself is “freedom”

This rotten tea party are merely pawns in this farce that the oligarchy, the rulers of your “free” country you know nothing about, as you assist them in killing us.


I doubt you know much about the real world, where 1 in 5 children in America, the land of plenty, go to bed hungry, and other realities of unnecessary suffering that exists because of the greed and power of the few who have deluded you in worrying about how much taxes they pay


The preamble to the constitution speaks that this republic will be for the “General welfare”
NOT A FEW RICH PEOPLE!

reply to post by jechill


If you remember anything about the LA riots, the Asian neighborhoods were relatively untouched throughout the meyhem. Why? The owners of the businesses got up on their roofs with rifles, thats why.

That was the total idiocy of the LA riots. Folks essentially torched down their own neighborhoods.

reply to post by getreadyalready


I won’t take many words to refute your posts

Just read carefully and TRY to understand something:

The tea party are only pawns of the oligarchs whom they have bought to convince the intelligence challenged people that they should go to bed at night worrying about the taxes that the rich pay; while they cant pay their own rent! Now that’s brainwashing.

Why do I call out the tea party?

It’s very simple: The same reason that a man fights the dog sicked on him before he gets to the dogs master that ordered him to attack the man

reply to post by inforeal


But you are wrong. What you speak of is the TV portrayal of the Tea Party, not the grassroots Tea Party in your own town.

What the Tea Party is, is the last line of peaceful protest and effort to reform the government. If they fail...........................well, then you can let your imagination run wild. Things have come to a head. Reform of the government, the political scene, and the economy is going to happen very soon. Pray for the Tea Party to be successful, because that is the easy way.

Hmm, seeing how racial tension is North America seems or in my view seems to be high on racial tension, it could happen, however...

However since we are all complacent on what happens we don't really stand up for our rights vs the EU

england is an experiment and since it seems a cheap easy rapid way to achieve the goal,then i'm sure it will spread-in a flash. wont be brooms cleaning it up though, not in the usa. you'll need to hose off the blood.

Yea what starts is if one person gets angry enough at the police and they band into mob mentality then it can start, like if the police in Toronto did the same thing that the police in LA did to Rodney King then there would be lots of troubles especially in the Golden Horseshoe metropolitan area, but one thing leads to another like lets say the Government of Canada decides to implement Sharia law (it didn't pass due to heavy opposition from other religious groups) and people started protesting and they deteriorated into riots then it could start here and in the US

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by inforeal

 

But you are wrong. What you speak of is the TV portrayal of the Tea Party, not the grassroots Tea Party in your own town.

What the Tea Party is, is the last line of peaceful protest and effort to reform the government. If they fail...........................well, then you can let your imagination run wild. Things have come to a head. Reform of the government, the political scene, and the economy is going to happen very soon. Pray for the Tea Party to be successful, because that is the easy way.

A little troubling coming from a moderator man, I thought the moderators were not allowed to do this as makes it difficult to moderate without bias, not saying you're wrong as I don't know much about the Tea party at all, but is it cool to be so forceful with the political stuff if you're a mod??

I think it will happen here for sure, just a matter of time. And no I do not think its the tea parties fault. Its all of the government in general. I think the riots here will be much worse than these other places due to the sheer number of firearms we have, and NO I am not bashing guns, I love the 2nd amendment. But the fact that people have them, its gona be bloody on both sides "people and the law". But I think just like crime, the majority of the people using those firearms will be the criminal element. Sad yet interesting times we live in.


Deebo

Originally posted by inforeal
reply to post by occy30

 

I AM TIRED OF YOU TEA PARTY LOVERS NOT THINKING!

THEY ARE CUTTING PROGRAMS THAT WILL STARVE PEOPLE! HUMAN BEINGS, CHILDREN, OLD PEOPLE.

I CARE ABOUT HUMAN BEINGS NOT RICH PEOPLE WHO DON’T NEED HELP!
WHY DON’T THESE SO CALLED BUDGET DEFICIT AND DEBT FREAKS DENOUNCE WAR, SUFFERING, HATRED, AND THINGS THAT HURT REAL HUMAN BEINGS AND STOP BEING PAWNS OF GREEDY RICH PEOPLE WHO DON’T GIVE A DAM ABOUT NOTHING BUT THEIR WEALTH!

YOU WANT TO CUT THE BUDGET, CUT THE DEFENCE BUDGET AND STOP WARS, DEATH, AND DESTRUCTION.

edit on 9-8-2011 by inforeal because: (no reason given)

The Senate is Democrat controlled. It even says so on the webbernets. So why didn't the Democrat-controlled Senate reject these old-people killing, baby starving measures put forth by the nefarious TEA Party? Riddle me this one, Batman.

/TOA

Unlike Britain, Americans can have guns. Our shopowners show their stuff when the SHTF. We had our Watts riots, our Harlem blackout riots, and it only showed people destroying their own neighborhoods and their stores where they shop. Kinda stupid, that's why you will see it is mostly kids doing it. Very shortsighted.

A democracy requires an education, registered voters, diversity, and morals. While we have eroded our morals somewhat, thanks to guys like Hugh Hefner, we are overall a caring society. I have been in thousands of homes and talked about everything with people, and I find that Americans want freedom, honesty, and morality. They want a fair wage and security. They want a strong defense, but are quick to examine causes for any overseas wars. If they feel it has crossed the line, they vote out of office those who are responsible for errors. However, once a prior administration has started the ship of state rolling, it is very hard to stop it and reverse course.

Many of our politicians are afraid of making the tough decisions, as it will definitely affect their 'career politician" status, and they will lose their job. Would it take courage? Maybe. Or maybe it takes a careless attitude. If you compromise, the media and your future opponents will never forget what you did, and use it to destroy you in the next election. Part of the problem is that there is no clear choice in bills, because there are amendments to bills that may have opposing values. For example, if a bill were to be created that asked for more money for the poor, but at the same time attempted to remove funding for abortions, democrats would be afraid to sign that bill because they would be seen as anti-abortion in the next election. The good that they did in helping the poor would be overlooked, and only their stand on abortion would be shown and held against them. This is the problem with amendments: they prevent compromise when written poorly. If our elected officials are asking too much of their opponents across the aisle, there will be gridlock... as we have seen in the US Congress, and in California recently.

The business of politics is failing the people because of these prior problems noted above. These politicians need to take smaller bites, and be able to weather the storm later. It would be nice to have a little more transparency as promised, and some changes as promised.

reply to post by sir_slide


I agree Sir_Slide

Moderator is promoting the Tea Party.

I understand there are some aspects of the Tea Party that began as a grass roots movement.

But frankly, those days are gone. The Tea Party was bought out by the Koch Brothers and promoted through the MSM as a right wing conservative group that wished to maintain the status quo while smothering the middle class.

Can you the Moderator deny this?

www.usnews.com...

reply to post by antoinemarionette


Last time i checked moderators are allowed to say whatever they want as long as it falls in with TC's. Standing by an ideal is not a violation of any of them so, keep trying. If you can have your fair shake on a political topic so can Getready.

With that being said, I've never understood why so many people on here demonize the Tea party. Before the Republicans latched onto it, and before several of the key players sold out for a little political clout, the tea party was a great thing. Fundamentally it still is! Unless you like higher taxes and less civil liberty, and you are one of the people that need the government to hold your hand while you wipe your butt.... In that case, stick with Obama and the Democrats and most of the republicans. Always remember that both sides are already bought and paid for.

Labels are what screws everything up. Tea partier, democrat, republican.... We're all AMERICAN. When are people just gonna nut up? When is going to be time to just handle some dirt? The vast majority of Americans are all frustrated with the same things on both sides of the floor, so why not make some real changes that can leave all of our futures in better shape? This partisan bull crap is going to bury us alive. Oh, wait, IT ALREADY HAS. It's time to do whats right, not play arm chair politician. If we could stop bitching at each other for 5 minutes, and re direct that frustration towards the people actually making the decisions things would be much better.

There is no doubt that eventually some of the world wide civil unrest is going to hit the states. The main difference between civil unrest here and across the pond is simply geography. Our population is spread out a lot farther than other countries. It's going to take a little more time before people are actually pissed off enough to get out and do something about it. It's coming though. As time moves forward you'll see the American people in similar situations as our brothers and sisters through out the world. It's only right that we do our part when the time comes.

Originally posted by sir_slide

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by inforeal

 

But you are wrong. What you speak of is the TV portrayal of the Tea Party, not the grassroots Tea Party in your own town.

What the Tea Party is, is the last line of peaceful protest and effort to reform the government. If they fail...........................well, then you can let your imagination run wild. Things have come to a head. Reform of the government, the political scene, and the economy is going to happen very soon. Pray for the Tea Party to be successful, because that is the easy way.

A little troubling coming from a moderator man, I thought the moderators were not allowed to do this as makes it difficult to moderate without bias, not saying you're wrong as I don't know much about the Tea party at all, but is it cool to be so forceful with the political stuff if you're a mod??

We are members first, moderators second. We never let our moderator status interfere with our membership and/or personal opinions. I would never have agreed to become a moderator if it were any different.

To be fair, we never moderate in threads where we are participating. Also, we tend to stick to forums where we are not biased. For example, as a Mason, I never moderate in the Secret Societies forum. Also, the vast majority of moderator actions are done by consensus. It is kind of rare for a moderator to take unilateral action. Typically we alert something, and discuss it behind the scenes before anything happens.

If it ever becomes a problem (which it hasn't, and it won't), but if it ever does become a problem, I will gladly give up the Moderator banner, and still debate my opinions forcefully.

reply to post by antoinemarionette


Yes, I can absolutely deny that!! The Tea Party is not a cohesive national movement started in any one area. It was just a convenient name that dozens or possibly hundreds of smaller movements latched onto simultaneously. There is no communication between groups, or national hierarchy.

I was one of 3 members that met one Saturday morning to plan an event. We didn't have a name for our group, but we wanted to stage an event outside the capital. We happened to all be members of the same Masonic lodge, so we met there. The next week, our group was about a dozen, and it already included men, women, Repubs, and Liberals. The next week, it was 20+, and it was pretty organized and energetic! It was several months before they decided to call it a "Tea Party Event" and I don't remember where the idea came from, but it was likely a copy of some other event being held in the country. We had our first 9/12 event at the Capital building in 2008. Since then, we have become about 2500 strong here in Tallahassee, and we directly influenced the election of Marco Rubio and Steve Sutherland (although he wasn't our first choice). We have turned down the opportunity to let Sarah Palin speak here, and by and large we all despise Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. Our particular group is probably 30-40% Democrat, and probably 20% black, with a handful of Hispanic members.

What you see on television and Youtube is a drastic misrepresentation, but the only way to see that for yourself is to go down to an event, or contact your local Tea Party.

reply to post by dolphinfan


guns are not the answer -we have no guns, very few riots, and no slums
social equality is the answer and education
any marginalized part of society will eventually rebell

Originally posted by jechill
reply to post by dolphinfan

 

guns are not the answer -we have no guns, very few riots, and no slums
social equality is the answer and education
any marginalized part of society will eventually rebell

That is the most succintly I have ever seen that communicated!

Very good, and very concise assessment.

I entirely agree!!

Still LOVE my guns though!

reply to post by wshadow1


everyone wants to better themselves to say that they are not trying is wrong.
less than 1% of our budget goes to welfare
in the usa it would cost less than a penny per person to bring healthcare to everyone and you fight it.
since you allowed the govt and the rich to eliminate the middle class and the rich dont pay taxes there is no one left to pay for social programs. You fight unions like in wisconsin , they support the middle class.
since trickle down doesnt work the only way to get yourselves out of this mess is if everyone climbs the ladder together.
remember the news you see on tv is all controlled by big business.
they want the public poor, uneducated, in debt and basically low paid slavery.