US is in serious problem...going further down the drain..REAL EYE OPENER..MUST READ.

Originally posted by stirling
Political power , real power IS military conquest.
It must continue to be conquest or the lights of Amerika will fade out.
We are the new German reich....dont you get it?
if we stop bombing and scrapping with any or all who we are in conflict with, we also loose the boots on the ground there....(which means we loose the resources those places have....)
No choice but to soldier on wards now to the end of the fourth reich whatever that may be......seig heil Obama

You're absolutely right, the sooner one climbs to the top of the mountain on the backs of others... the sooner he will get to the top so the wind of change can blow him away.

What is happening is an equalization of trade, and the US is now becoming on the stage, on a level playing field with the rest of the world. It will not have to finally decide of regulations are going to be enforced which are largely there while not in place within competing countries.

We also have to decide if we really want to work, you know, putting in "all" of ones effort on the job, and a little more even off the job for additional good measure to insure the company is most profitable... And management no longer tolerating dead weight any more....including themselves....

We were a nation built up upon determination, hard work, strong work ethics, and moral values, we have lost all of those things in the recent years, and what we now face are the repercussions. So the dollar turns to worthless paper, so be it, it will force those that horde to have to work, it will force those that want to eat, to prepare in a direct manner and back to the basics. We will and should close up our trade with the rest of the world in the process, recover from our wounds, and decide if we want to enter back in again at a later date, or take the opposite side and put all other countries to shame in the wake of competitiveness and efficiency.

I prefer the latter, since it's going to force people to rely upon their local community for what they need, rather then undermine them and buy trash imported from some third world country....

Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by vikki_nnd

 

It is impossible for a country to go bankrupt because a country can print its own money. Unfortunately that causes most of the country's citizens to go bankrupt.

most of us here already know what a country going bankrupt means but seems like you will be the one who will come to know about it through BBC. wake up...printing money like mad is not the solution. if printing money could avoid the bankruptcy, then every printing press in every country would have been running 24*7.

Originally posted by vikki_nnd

Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by vikki_nnd

 

It is impossible for a country to go bankrupt because a country can print its own money. Unfortunately that causes most of the country's citizens to go bankrupt.

most of us here already know what a country going bankrupt means but seems like you will be the one who will come to know about it through BBC. wake up...printing money like mad is not the solution. if printing money could avoid the bankruptcy, then every printing press in every country would have been running 24*7.

I can't help but to wonder if that person was merely making a daft cynical statement. Of course you don't print money and cause an imbalance.

or DO you when you've run out of other ideas and similar methods of passing the buck?

I do believe that might have been the point.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but, to anyone who's been paying attention, this article is more an affirmation than an "eye opener" (not to mention the fact that it was written in '98.) Just dig through documentaries and ebooks and you'll find oodles of good info for the taking. And all without reading some repost from the nineties. Check out Death of the Liberal Class by Chris Hedges, for example.

here again. the S&P said on sunday that the US credit ratings may go even further down.
now starts the game of accusations. lets just see what uncle SAM says about it.

Originally posted by xXxinfidelxXx
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but, to anyone who's been paying attention, this article is more an affirmation than an "eye opener" (not to mention the fact that it was written in '98.) Just dig through documentaries and ebooks and you'll find oodles of good info for the taking. And all without reading some repost from the nineties. Check out Death of the Liberal Class by Chris Hedges, for example.

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agreed. and the news gets even worse(remember that it was written in 98?) because that simply means the govenrment was very well aware of the deadly future of the country and still didn't pay any heed. what was important? invading iraq or cleaning its own mess?

reply to post by vikki_nnd

Originally posted by vikki_nnd
I stumbled upon this article today and it surprised me to see how far we have gone to witness the bankruptcy of the world's richest nation. This article will shock you to death.

see this

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Well I would say that when you erect a finacial system based oh fiat currency eventually the illusion wears off and we see the actual value of the money.Point being Americas wealth is fake.It's great wealth is being seen as fraud.

reply to post by xXxinfidelxXx


as i said on the first page, there will be many markets affected by this. and if it gets more dirty than this, many markets can slide down fatser than we think. so m gonna say that again here too.

dont forget to have a look at the monday opening of the NASDAQ.

(just read about indian markets..nifty tanks 150 points, sensex dives 500 points down.)

your time starts now.

Originally posted by ChaosMagician

Originally posted by vikki_nnd

Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by vikki_nnd

 

It is impossible for a country to go bankrupt because a country can print its own money. Unfortunately that causes most of the country's citizens to go bankrupt.

most of us here already know what a country going bankrupt means but seems like you will be the one who will come to know about it through BBC. wake up...printing money like mad is not the solution. if printing money could avoid the bankruptcy, then every printing press in every country would have been running 24*7.

I can't help but to wonder if that person was merely making a daft cynical statement. Of course you don't print money and cause an imbalance.

or DO you when you've run out of other ideas and similar methods of passing the buck?

I do believe that might have been the point.

Of course you do.Because when you know that the value of the money is deteriorating,even though the monies losing value,creating imbalance creates opportunity to use the wealth to buy up securities and purchase things which otherwise wouldn't be available unless there was chaos.

Originally posted by vikki_nnd
reply to post by ChaosMagician

 

US is not only responsibly for its own but for the rest of the world too. if the US economy dies and it goes bankrupt then not only US but a lot more economies will follow the path because its a very interconnected world we are living in.
just imagine how many stock markets will sink and how many will suffer a serious heart attack?
so considering this, Uncle SAM should mend its ways for the best of all. And if you have read the article i have provided, you can be sure that the government had it coming for a very long time. People tried to tell the ugly truth but they ignored it and now we are at the edge of making a fool of ourselves. aren't we?

edit on 7-8-2011 by vikki_nnd because: (no reason given)

LMAO!!!

Fortunately for me... Australia doesnt owe America anything per say.

We have masses of natural resources... all Australian owned.

We dont take money from the USA for anything of any real global value... and therefore our economy is completely uncompromised from America's failure to balance its own books legally.

In fact... Australia will benefit greatly from America's failure with a raise in our dollar value, lower prices on USA imported goods etc...

Happy days!

I dont like to see people of the USA blaming other countries for their failures... start blaming your government and actually taking action in your home towns as opposed to trying to pass the buck.

While there are a number of countries who will not fare well without USA's credit backing... the USA only has itself to blame and it will only make matters worse if those unable to see the problems keep blaming it all on everyone else but themselves.

just saying.

Originally posted by w3nd1g0

Originally posted by vikki_nnd
reply to post by ChaosMagician

 

US is not only responsibly for its own but for the rest of the world too. if the US economy dies and it goes bankrupt then not only US but a lot more economies will follow the path because its a very interconnected world we are living in.
just imagine how many stock markets will sink and how many will suffer a serious heart attack?
so considering this, Uncle SAM should mend its ways for the best of all. And if you have read the article i have provided, you can be sure that the government had it coming for a very long time. People tried to tell the ugly truth but they ignored it and now we are at the edge of making a fool of ourselves. aren't we?

edit on 7-8-2011 by vikki_nnd because: (no reason given)

LMAO!!!

Fortunately for me... Australia doesnt owe America anything per say.

We have masses of natural resources... all Australian owned.

We dont take money from the USA for anything of any real global value... and therefore our economy is completely uncompromised from America's failure to balance its own books legally.

In fact... Australia will benefit greatly from America's failure with a raise in our dollar value, lower prices on USA imported goods etc...

Happy days!

I dont like to see people of the USA blaming other countries for their failures... start blaming your government and actually taking action in your home towns as opposed to trying to pass the buck.

While there are a number of countries who will not fare well without USA's credit backing... the USA only has itself to blame and it will only make matters worse if those unable to see the problems keep blaming it all on everyone else but themselves.

just saying.

is that all? you dont borrow money from america and have everything of your own. wow.!!! so you think it wont affect you? i cant believe what schools taught you this.

Originally posted by rebeldog
reply to post by WeMoveUnseen

 

remeber how we bombed all the factories in Germany, how many other factories were bombed in WW2??

the only reason USA became so rich after ww2 is there was pretty much nowhere else that could manufacture anything!!!

yet all the baby boomers still believed "we earned it"..yet were too dense and filled with state sponsored EGO to realize............nobody else was able to make things because the infrastructure had been devastated..

and now, since USA doesn't have a monopoly on factories, we have MAJOR problems.. And now we are unsucccessfully trying to fan the flames of another World War, perhaps to destroy factories abroad again?

This touches an angle i've never thought of before..

Thanks

Originally posted by WeMoveUnseen
reply to post by vikki_nnd

 

Wake up and smell the ashes, while you were sleeping your leaders have sold you out. Ignorant Americans are probably the number one cause of this impending calamity - not Pakistan.

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

killinghope.org...

www.amazon.co.uk...

edit on 7-8-2011 by WeMoveUnseen because: (no reason given)

Try this link as a better explanation!

NWO

www.youtube.com...

This has been planned at least as long as 110 years ago. Many say longer.

Wake-up and smell the death chambers, folks.

God alone is our refuge. There is no other.

ET's/fallen angels will be no good solution.

Deception is rampant.

Time is running out.

Originally posted by BO XIAN

Originally posted by WeMoveUnseen
reply to post by vikki_nnd

 

Wake up and smell the ashes, while you were sleeping your leaders have sold you out. Ignorant Americans are probably the number one cause of this impending calamity - not Pakistan.

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

killinghope.org...

www.amazon.co.uk...

edit on 7-8-2011 by WeMoveUnseen because: (no reason given)

Try this link as a better explanation!

NWO

www.youtube.com...

This has been planned at least as long as 110 years ago. Many say longer.

Wake-up and smell the death chambers, folks.

God alone is our refuge. There is no other.

ET's/fallen angels will be no good solution.

Deception is rampant.

Time is running out.

There are some people who were made aware of this that originally would not have been aware.

Guess who that was that made them aware.

There may be very little they can do now about the mess we got ourselves into but we have had the opportunity to change some things. Some people have been trying.

People listen. The world was no worse off 30 yrs ago than it is today and the US was not holding the global economy up then. Things need to die at times ( Stocks Economy etc ) like it or not so from the ashes new can come to life. The Only Ones That Will Loose if the economy tanks are the Rich !! ( The same ones telling you to be afraid and making excuses to be bailed out etc)

Originally posted by vikki_nnd

Originally posted by w3nd1g0

Originally posted by vikki_nnd
reply to post by ChaosMagician

 

US is not only responsibly for its own but for the rest of the world too. if the US economy dies and it goes bankrupt then not only US but a lot more economies will follow the path because its a very interconnected world we are living in.
just imagine how many stock markets will sink and how many will suffer a serious heart attack?
so considering this, Uncle SAM should mend its ways for the best of all. And if you have read the article i have provided, you can be sure that the government had it coming for a very long time. People tried to tell the ugly truth but they ignored it and now we are at the edge of making a fool of ourselves. aren't we?

edit on 7-8-2011 by vikki_nnd because: (no reason given)

LMAO!!!

Fortunately for me... Australia doesnt owe America anything per say.

We have masses of natural resources... all Australian owned.

We dont take money from the USA for anything of any real global value... and therefore our economy is completely uncompromised from America's failure to balance its own books legally.

In fact... Australia will benefit greatly from America's failure with a raise in our dollar value, lower prices on USA imported goods etc...

Happy days!

I dont like to see people of the USA blaming other countries for their failures... start blaming your government and actually taking action in your home towns as opposed to trying to pass the buck.

While there are a number of countries who will not fare well without USA's credit backing... the USA only has itself to blame and it will only make matters worse if those unable to see the problems keep blaming it all on everyone else but themselves.

just saying.

is that all? you dont borrow money from america and have everything of your own. wow.!!! so you think it wont affect you? i cant believe what schools taught you this.

One can only assume you're not past your first year in primary school to be thinking as you are. At least pick up a news paper occasionally... even the cartoon section parodies your effort above. Most of the mining companies are foreign owned. Not to mention a considerable amount of housing real estate and farming lands, as well as manufacturing companies and various well known Aussie products... many acquired by loans through foreign banks. Both the Westpac and National banks went running to the American Reserve bank in the last GFC.
Its called a global economy for a reason these days. What effects one in some way effects us all sooner or later.