US is in serious problem...going further down the drain..REAL EYE OPENER..MUST READ.

Originally posted by vikki_nnd

Originally posted by ChaosMagician

Originally posted by vikki_nnd
reply to post by ChaosMagician

 

US is not only responsibly for its own but for the rest of the world too. if the US economy dies and it goes bankrupt then not only US but a lot more economies will follow the path because its a very interconnected world we are living in.
just imagine how many stock markets will sink and how many will suffer a serious heart attack?
so considering this, Uncle SAM should mend its ways for the best of all. And if you have read the article i have provided, you can be sure that the government had it coming for a very long time. People tried to tell the ugly truth but they ignored it and now we are at the edge of making a fool of ourselves. aren't we?

edit on 7-8-2011 by vikki_nnd because: (no reason given)

yin/yang

BALANCE

paradigm shift

There is a lot more strength beyond US borders than you are aware of.
EVERYTHING will not collapse due to the US economy, power will merely shift.

Did I just explain that?

well you are right. it will just be the power shift game but again the power will be shifted after a serious mess. and do you realize who are in the line to take the lead in the so called power shift game? Did somebody yelled out CHINA?

Yeah, the place where they have very little tolerance for stealing.

Confucius say: Life is funny..

... but why would the chinese people really have a beef with us?

I mean, look at all those American companies that gave them jobs.

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remeber how we bombed all the factories in Germany, how many other factories were bombed in WW2??

the only reason USA became so rich after ww2 is there was pretty much nowhere else that could manufacture anything!!!

yet all the baby boomers still believed "we earned it"..yet were too dense and filled with state sponsored EGO to realize............nobody else was able to make things because the infrastructure had been devastated..

and now, since USA doesn't have a monopoly on factories, we have MAJOR problems.. And now we are unsucccessfully trying to fan the flames of another World War, perhaps to destroy factories abroad again?

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I couldn't agree with you more. I just won't have this issue blamed on another country. All of this is a part of their plan anyway.

I do feel for the average American, really i do, what has been done to the USA is beyond treason. And i also understand the issue is a global one and other countries are in just as much of a mess.

Good luck to everyone who is worried, good luck to all of those who know. On so many levels our so called civilization needs a miracle now.

It's time for the Human race to evolve beyond money and selfishness. I hope i see that day.


We Move Unseen

Originally posted by ChaosMagician
... but why would the chinese people really have a beef with us?

I mean, look at all those American companies that gave them jobs.

JOBS? dear, america is crying his lungs out because they think india is stealing their jobs and they didn't give these jobs away to china or india. they took it simply because nobody in US wants to do a job anymore. everyone just wants to become investment banker or a LAWYER.
no country gives away jobs willingly if it has jobless people at home. THINK.....

Originally posted by rebeldog
reply to post by WeMoveUnseen

 

remeber how we bombed all the factories in Germany, how many other factories were bombed in WW2??

the only reason USA became so rich after ww2 is there was pretty much nowhere else that could manufacture anything!!!

yet all the baby boomers still believed "we earned it"..yet were too dense and filled with state sponsored EGO to realize............nobody else was able to make things because the infrastructure had been devastated..

and now, since USA doesn't have a monopoly on factories, we have MAJOR problems.. And now we are unsucccessfully trying to fan the flames of another World War, perhaps to destroy factories abroad again?

ooooooo.... hmmm. Interesting post.

State sponsored EGO, eh? I'm going to have to re-use that somewhere.

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Great perspective. I think you have an interesting point and i would expect to see an escalation in military operations if not an all out war as the economies collapse, they go hand in hand.

"If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail."

Originally posted by vikki_nnd

Originally posted by ChaosMagician
... but why would the chinese people really have a beef with us?

I mean, look at all those American companies that gave them jobs.

JOBS? dear, america is crying his lungs out because they think india is stealing their jobs and they didn't give these jobs away to china or india. they took it simply nobody in US wants to do a job. everyone just want to become investment banker or a LAWYER.
no country gives away jobs willingly if they have jobless people at home. think..

you clearly did not get my post. Those rich investors have an interest where they can exploit cheap labor.
What China and India are good at is living cheaply and working hard. Those countries laborers worked their asses off because work is work, while capitalist investors get rich and blow their money however they want.

hard working countries get stronger and then are in a position to lend to the US? Huh? YEP.

...and now we are like, but we don't want to pay you.... when INVESTORS got their crap made so cheap and got rich by the hands of laborers?

I think most of them would think that's a pretty big crock of #. As a matter of fact, even people in GB are calling us out for doing it to ourselves".... and what they don't know is they are right in the sack with us on a lot of things. It may not be on the front page news this week, but the US and GB has been covering each others ass for a while.

and countries don't give away jobs... companies simply go where labor is cheap.
just because companies can go where there is cheap labor and we have higher labor standards here... that doesn't mean we all have jobs and just don't want THOSE.

we can't do the job for less than minimum wage because WE GOTTA PAY RENT TO INVESTORS.

They move overseas.

Get it?

It's not the american people's fault in general. take a look around... if you have a lot of # and you are a greedy bastard and you are not sharing it... it is YOUR fault. The rich write their own salaries, they sign their own checks! they have no principle and think that if they can figure out a way to screw somebody fair and square... THEY EARNED IT.

Investors will not exploit cheap labor and offset the balance if there is a one world order... the problem is, people don't want to go for it... so the solution may actually be the cause of war.

..but after war people stop fighting and start over... well, the LIVING ones.

The problem is greed.

if you can't look at a regular person and a greedy #er and tell the difference... then just keep trying to figure it out I guess.

All around the world in all shapes and sizes there are greedy #ers that deserve to be dragged out into the street.

i just wish it would start happening already.

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how deluded you are! if you take the blinkers off you will see that america(the U.S.)IS THE biggest corporate/political terrorist bunch in the world, bar none. their government is corrupt. how many wars have they instigated since 1945? is it 50 or 60? with their london partners and zionist companions. but the wheel turns and now its payback time, unfortunately for all the innocent bystanders. hope you have a garden.

The reason why so many countries are dependent on one another's economy is to keep something like WW2 from happening. If a country's economy is based on the economy of another, war between those two will end up causing economic problems for both countries. So now we are in this half way dance between sovereignty and one big global community. I believe right now we are watching the end of nations in lieu of one world government. Nations will fall economically one by one and each one being swallowed up by this global machine.

Sorru OP I refuse to read from a web site called the Us is in big doo doo.

Originally posted by orangutang
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how deluded you are! if you take the blinkers off you will see that america(the U.S.)IS THE biggest corporate/political terrorist bunch in the world, bar none. their government is corrupt. how many wars have they instigated since 1945? is it 50 or 60? with their london partners and zionist companions. but the wheel turns and now its payback time, unfortunately for all the innocent bystanders. hope you have a garden.

dear enlightened one, seems like you haven't read the article which kicked off the thread in the first place.
it says the same thing.
why dont you have a go through it first so that we can avoid a lot of "already said" stuff?

Originally posted by professornurbs
Sorru OP I refuse to read from a web site called the Us is in big doo doo.

first of all, the website is not called "Us is in big doo doo".
and i am afraid that the time will come when you will have to refuse to live in a country(read US) which is in doo doo.

happy closed eyes

maybe they weren't arguing with that, maybe they were arguing with what YOU said. ???

some of what you are saying is right, but some of it... it's hard to understand what take you really have on this.

...but perhaps that's just due to the nature of the cluster# of the whole worldwide mess.

Originally posted by vikki_nnd

Originally posted by professornurbs
Sorru OP I refuse to read from a web site called the Us is in big doo doo.

first of all, the website is not called "Us is in big doo doo".
and i am afraid that the time will come when you will have to refuse to live in a country(read US) which is in doo doo.

happy closed eyes

oh come on, they were making a joke.... don't get so sidetracked. this is why nobody knows what's going on... when stuff gets watered down with the trivial.

i still don't even know what take you really have on this or if there is really a clear cut argument going on, because what it really looks like to me is people just trying to make it LOOK like an argument because that's how message boards are supposed to look.

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i have cleared myself over the subject. i dont have a take. the story is simple.
i shared an article with all and wanted to know what everybody else thought about it.
we dont have to have an arguement on everything. i never said it was an arguement so nobody is trying to make it look like one.

You don't have to declare it an argument for it to be one. That's a pretty lofty notion.

I didn't think anyone was really arguing either until SOMEBODY started wanting to get hoyty toyty.... and it really does seem they want to argue.

...but you see, I have an understanding of these things. As much as I hate fakeness and think it just drags crap out like a completely unnecessary speed bump, some people just don't know any other way to evoke a conversation.

but as for the statement "we don't have to have an argument for everything".... boy you took the words right out of my mouth on that one. I just wish you had actually thought of it on your own earlier.