Bob Lazar Credentials

Originally posted by Loopdaloop

In fact anything Stanton Friedman says is rubbish, there's probably some truth in it!

edit on 4-12-2011 by Loopdaloop because: (no reason given)

May well be rubbish, as bob does look goofy and
besides you dont need element 115 or any other exotic derivative
to power a ufo or a starship. ZPE is enough for that.

Bob Lazar is a fraud. Period.

If he's got all figured out...why in the world is he not just publishing a proper paper, with the relevant equations, and goes and collects his Nobel prize in physics already? Hmmm... because he doesn't even properly understand the standard model in physics?...uh..yeah, that's it. Bob.. give me 1..just 1 equation with your fantastic claims and we'll see.... I guess he doesn't want to be remembered as the guy who proved Einstein, Planck, Maxwell and pretty much each one of the the great Physicists wrong..because he's so humble.

And the Gov't wiped out all his stuff... yeah...sure. He didn't keep a copy of his 2 master degree diplomas (MIT and CalTech) ?... the government went to all his classmates and replaced the yearbooks with new ones that don't show him? There is no classmate stepping forward saying, yes, I was at the MIT with him... or CalTech... not a single professor that has ever heard of him? he has no single sheet of paper left of his thesis for his MS degrees?...which also raises the question, what was the title of his thesis?... just laughable... how any one of you can defend this clown... please...

reply to post by nv4711


4711....then why the hell is his name and telephone number and extention listed on PUBLIC GOVERMENTAL telephone directories of Los Alamos? As well as another public employee listing?

These things exist and are real....check it out. Split Infinity

Originally posted by nv4711
Bob Lazar is a fraud. Period.

If he's got all figured out...why in the world is he not just publishing a proper paper, with the relevant equations, and goes and collects his Nobel prize in physics already? Hmmm... because he doesn't even properly understand the standard model in physics?...uh..yeah, that's it. Bob.. give me 1..just 1 equation with your fantastic claims and we'll see.... I guess he doesn't want to be remembered as the guy who proved Einstein, Planck, Maxwell and pretty much each one of the the great Physicists wrong..because he's so humble.

And the Gov't wiped out all his stuff... yeah...sure. He didn't keep a copy of his 2 master degree diplomas (MIT and CalTech) ?... the government went to all his classmates and replaced the yearbooks with new ones that don't show him? There is no classmate stepping forward saying, yes, I was at the MIT with him... or CalTech... not a single professor that has ever heard of him? he has no single sheet of paper left of his thesis for his MS degrees?...which also raises the question, what was the title of his thesis?... just laughable... how any one of you can defend this clown... please...

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As much as I would like this claim of his to be true, these 2 paragraphs pretty much sum it up that he was a semi-hoaxer. That while he did work at the Los Alamos place(as proven by the phonebook listing) he did not back engineer anything. He might have gained knowledge through a friend or co-worker or maybe he just happened upon some documents that revealed in some detail about A51 and S4.

The whole element 115 thing seems sound but when held up to scrutiny of real scientists failed to have any real application.

My issues with the proton thing and the "Engine" he explained is where is the cooling system? Simply put if you are atomized elements and changing them into another element I would think you would need something to cool down the parts if you are doing it for long periods of time.

I will be the first one to admit I haven't done a ton of research on the matter as there are a lot of holes in his story and scientific theories, but if we could get hard evidence on the matter I would really like to see it. This would be one hell of a great thing if it were to be true

reply to by SplitInfinity


Yea this one single piece of evidence doesn't explain away his lack of degrees and the non-existence of him at MiT and caltech.

I mean it's college, you should have some friends that would remember you or a professor. Not to mention he is sketchy about the year he graduates. "Ohh umm geee, I think it was around 82" Sorry, but if you are hesitant on giving an answer and using such words as "Hmm, I think and Gee I'll have to think about it" Doesn't give him credibility.

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by nv4711

 

4711....then why the hell is his name and telephone number and extention listed on PUBLIC GOVERMENTAL telephone directories of Los Alamos? As well as another public employee listing?

These things exist and are real....check it out. Split Infinity

Hey Split..... He was listed as a contractor's employee not a Government employee. And as the esteemed poster above already said, that doesn't make his other claims to be true. I want to see his high school grades.... It takes some seriously good grades to be accepted at the MIT...

Uh....pretty much everything he says about physics is wrong.... And by that I mean him talking about established theories that every ( MIT and CalTech) trained scientist would know inside out....

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4711....there is more to this than you think. Ponder this.....why does a man....of such known international stature....reguardless of whether this was created by UFO buffs or whatever.....with the absolute fact that he could make MILLIONS of dollars by coming out and writing a book....even if the physics was total bull crap....YOU KNOW....people would buy it.....and with potential of book deals and tv and Movie Deals potentials that could earn into BILLIONS.......just stay quiet?

If he is a fraud....he could still make the money reguardless....but where is he?

Ponder that! Split Infinity

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to by nv4711

 

4711....there is more to this than you think. Ponder this.....why does a man....of such known international stature....reguardless of whether this was created by UFO buffs or whatever.....with the absolute fact that he could make MILLIONS of dollars by coming out and writing a book....even if the physics was total bull crap....YOU KNOW....people would buy it.....and with potential of book deals and tv and Movie Deals potentials that could earn into BILLIONS.......just stay quiet?

If he is a fraud....he could still make the money reguardless....but where is he?

Ponder that! Split Infinity

Is shooting yourself in the foot something you do often? or is this a new thing for you?

Not exactly sure what you tried to accomplish here but you didn't do a very good job of making a case.

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Please expound. Explain the motive....and if a fraud....why he has not used his celebrity to make MILLIONS?

This activity would be congruent to a fraudulent action. Split Infinity

reply to post by SplitInfinity


He was found out to be a fraud by most people, not really sure how far you can take that and still make money from it.

reply to post by GR1ill3d


Listen...I am in the entertainment buisness....and it doesn't matter if something is fact or fiction....all that matters is the interest people have in the subject or individual....and the massive potential for money to be made.

He is a gold mine for anyone in the biz.....the logic of motive is not sound. Split Infinity

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I have to agree with you on that. Jamie Maussan has seemed to turn making money with fraud into almost something of an art form.

But I don't know if Lazar ever had a profit motive like Maussan, he just wanted people to think he was much more educated than he is, among other things.

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by GR1ill3d

 

Please expound. Explain the motive....and if a fraud....why he has not used his celebrity to make MILLIONS?

This activity would be congruent to a fraudulent action. Split Infinity

I would think that it would be standard procedure to pull/remove all records of individuals who have worked at top secret facilities from public access for security purposes... especially those who have gone public.

Originally posted by shushu
I would think that it would be standard procedure to pull/remove all records of individuals who have worked at top secret facilities from public access for security purposes... especially those who have gone public.

what are they going to do, track down the location of every yearbook from MIT, and remove the one page with Lazar on it from all those yearbooks? Or destroy the entire yearbooks which are in private residences all over the country?

I don't think so.

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by shushu
I would think that it would be standard procedure to pull/remove all records of individuals who have worked at top secret facilities from public access for security purposes... especially those who have gone public.

what are they going to do, track down the location of every yearbook from MIT, and remove the one page with Lazar on it from all those yearbooks? Or destroy the entire yearbooks which are in private residences all over the country?

I don't think so.

I missed all of my university photo ops... three in HS... and seven in grade school. Some things are just beyond our control.

reply to post by shushu

Even if that's true you could probably name some folks at the university and high school you went to, who might remember you.

Lazar hasn't been able to do this either, and more importantly, he doesn't even display the level of education he claims to have, which may be the best proof of all he's lying.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


Why drag innocent people into a dangerous situation after going public? I'm just surprised that nobody has come forward and said they knew him... unless they've been suppressed. If he were running for president they would be crawling out of the woodwork.

Originally posted by GR1ill3d

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to by nv4711

 

4711....there is more to this than you think. Ponder this.....why does a man....of such known international stature....reguardless of whether this was created by UFO buffs or whatever.....with the absolute fact that he could make MILLIONS of dollars by coming out and writing a book....even if the physics was total bull crap....YOU KNOW....people would buy it.....and with potential of book deals and tv and Movie Deals potentials that could earn into BILLIONS.......just stay quiet?

If he is a fraud....he could still make the money reguardless....but where is he?

Ponder that! Split Infinity

Is shooting yourself in the foot something you do often? or is this a new thing for you?

Not exactly sure what you tried to accomplish here but you didn't do a very good job of making a case.

edit on 12/5/1111 by GR1ill3d because: (no reason given)

Lol. Point taken.
Its easy to write a book, even for the real thing, but finding publishers is quite another.
Bob is a mysterious character for sure and as some1 above pointed out, where is the
cooling system for the reactor and the thermo electric generator.

Originally posted by shushu
reply to post by Arbitrageur

 

Why drag innocent people into a dangerous situation after going public? I'm just surprised that nobody has come forward and said they knew him... unless they've been suppressed. If he were running for president they would be crawling out of the woodwork.

Like the professor who taught Bob and said "yes I remember Bob, he was in my class and was one of my more creative students", except that never happened, right? Exactly how would that put the innocent professor at risk to say Bob was in his class?

And how does this even begin to explain why Lazar seems more uneducated than educated?

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by shushu
reply to post by Arbitrageur

 

Why drag innocent people into a dangerous situation after going public? I'm just surprised that nobody has come forward and said they knew him... unless they've been suppressed. If he were running for president they would be crawling out of the woodwork.

Like the professor who taught Bob and said "yes I remember Bob, he was in my class and was one of my more creative students", except that never happened, right? Exactly how would that put the innocent professor at risk to say Bob was in his class?

And how does this even begin to explain why Lazar seems more uneducated than educated?

edit on 5-12-2011 by Arbitrageur because: clarification

I have my theories. I suppose now is the time to keep them to myself.