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Originally posted by nv4711
Bob Lazar is a fraud. Period.
If he's got all figured out...why in the world is he not just publishing a proper paper, with the relevant equations, and goes and collects his Nobel prize in physics already? Hmmm... because he doesn't even properly understand the standard model in physics?...uh..yeah, that's it. Bob.. give me 1..just 1 equation with your fantastic claims and we'll see.... I guess he doesn't want to be remembered as the guy who proved Einstein, Planck, Maxwell and pretty much each one of the the great Physicists wrong..because he's so humble.
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Originally posted by shushu
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Like the professor who taught Bob and said "yes I remember Bob, he was in my class and was one of my more creative students", except that never happened, right? Exactly how would that put the innocent professor at risk to say Bob was in his class?
Originally posted by shushu
reply to post by Arbitrageur
Why drag innocent people into a dangerous situation after going public? I'm just surprised that nobody has come forward and said they knew him... unless they've been suppressed. If he were running for president they would be crawling out of the woodwork.
And how does this even begin to explain why Lazar seems more uneducated than educated?edit on 5-12-2011 by Arbitrageur because: clarification
I have my theories. I suppose now is the time to keep them to myself.
Originally posted by Loopdaloop
Originally posted by nv4711
Bob Lazar is a fraud. Period.
If he's got all figured out...why in the world is he not just publishing a proper paper, with the relevant equations, and goes and collects his Nobel prize in physics already? Hmmm... because he doesn't even properly understand the standard model in physics?...uh..yeah, that's it. Bob.. give me 1..just 1 equation with your fantastic claims and we'll see.... I guess he doesn't want to be remembered as the guy who proved Einstein, Planck, Maxwell and pretty much each one of the the great Physicists wrong..because he's so humble.
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Originally posted by nv4711
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by nv4711
4711....then why the hell is his name and telephone number and extention listed on PUBLIC GOVERMENTAL telephone directories of Los Alamos? As well as another public employee listing?
These things exist and are real....check it out. Split Infinity
Hey Split..... He was listed as a contractor's employee not a Government employee. And as the esteemed poster above already said, that doesn't make his other claims to be true. I want to see his high school grades.... It takes some seriously good grades to be accepted at the MIT...
Uh....pretty much everything he says about physics is wrong.... And by that I mean him talking about established theories that every ( MIT and CalTech) trained scientist would know inside out....
Originally posted by Loopdaloop
Originally posted by shushu
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Like the professor who taught Bob and said "yes I remember Bob, he was in my class and was one of my more creative students", except that never happened, right? Exactly how would that put the innocent professor at risk to say Bob was in his class?
Originally posted by shushu
reply to post by Arbitrageur
Why drag innocent people into a dangerous situation after going public? I'm just surprised that nobody has come forward and said they knew him... unless they've been suppressed. If he were running for president they would be crawling out of the woodwork.
And how does this even begin to explain why Lazar seems more uneducated than educated?edit on 5-12-2011 by Arbitrageur because: clarification
I have my theories. I suppose now is the time to keep them to myself.
Whats your theories?
Originally posted by shushu
Originally posted by nv4711
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by nv4711
4711....then why the hell is his name and telephone number and extention listed on PUBLIC GOVERMENTAL telephone directories of Los Alamos? As well as another public employee listing?
These things exist and are real....check it out. Split Infinity
Hey Split..... He was listed as a contractor's employee not a Government employee. And as the esteemed poster above already said, that doesn't make his other claims to be true. I want to see his high school grades.... It takes some seriously good grades to be accepted at the MIT...
Uh....pretty much everything he says about physics is wrong.... And by that I mean him talking about established theories that every ( MIT and CalTech) trained scientist would know inside out....
Yannow... somebody hijacked my keyboard a few minutes ago... so I decided to reboot to snap his little tentacle off. I post this response and lo and behold... look at the time date stamp of my post and the guy's above me. They're black.
Continuing...
So what exactly are your credentials, NV4711???edit on 5-12-2011 by shushu because: (no reason given)
Even if you believe the nonsense of his entire history being erased, the fact remains that he doesn't understand physics... He doesn't understand tensor mathematics.... He doesn't understand and misrepresents the standard model of physics... Hence, if you claim to have 2 masters degrees, from MIT and CalTech and you're still confusing "weight" and "mass" and cannot provide or demonstrate a single mathematical equation supporting your earth shattering physics, then you are a fraud. Simple as that.
Originally posted by VraxUK
reply to post by anydaynow18
Probably because he never went there.
Originally posted by shushu
reply to post by nv4711
This post...
Originally posted by shushu
reply to post by nv4711
This post...
You responded with this...
Even if you believe the nonsense of his entire history being erased, the fact remains that he doesn't understand physics... He doesn't understand tensor mathematics.... He doesn't understand and misrepresents the standard model of physics... Hence, if you claim to have 2 masters degrees, from MIT and CalTech and you're still confusing "weight" and "mass" and cannot provide or demonstrate a single mathematical equation supporting your earth shattering physics, then you are a fraud. Simple as that.
By any chance do you have a link as to where he confuses "weight' and "mass...'' just so that I can determine if he may have mis-spoke??? And for you to catch this error means that you have a genuine understanding of physics... so I need to know why you're so smart. Do you have a degree in something or excel in something relevant to the subject matter???
edit on 5-12-2011 by shushu because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by schuyler
Lazar is a mixed bag. On the one side he says he went to M.I.T. He says he went to CalTech. There is no evidence that he did at all. The only professor he remembers happens to be the name of an instructor at a community coloege Lazar attended AT THE SAME time he says he went to M.I.T., though he's not sure because somehow he doesn't remember when he graduated from M.I.T., his most profound academic achievement. Indeed, his standing in high school was barely above normal. His grades were nowhere near good enough to get into M.I.T.
On the other hand, he was in the right place at the right time. We have a W-2 that places him at least nearby, though the W-2 is for a few hundred dollars and couldn't possibly be for more than two week's worth of work. He never did get a top secret security clearance. Lear says it was because he got an acromonious divorce, but Lear isn't so credible himself. That begs the question because Lazar wouldn't have been given access without more than a top secret clearance. Plus, there's no doubt Lazar is a bright guy.
What is the most plausible explanation?
Lazar is a bright guy who never finished college. He's always been interested in stuff like UFOs. He meets Teller, who gives him a connection. Lazar gets a job as an engineering technician (not a physicist, not an engineer) with a contractor where he works for a couple of weeks. Because of his problems he never gets a security clearance and never gets to Area 51. His employment is short-lived.
But....
He can spin a good story. As he 'studies' UFOs and hangs out outside the base trying to photograph them he concocts a fantasy that he was actually there. His story is light on details--anybody could make up the description he gives--and full of pseudo-physics. Real physicists have looked at what he said and called it a cross between nonsense and, if he actually figured it out, the Nobel Prize. As his story gets more detailed he fills it with a fake education. At some point people start to question him and investigate his claims, finding many of them bogus. So Lazar bails. That fits the facts as we know them and it accounts for the fakes.
Originally posted by shushu
reply to post by nv4711
Lazar Interviews
I have a problem with these "interviews." Go back and study the quotations marks and you'll see what I mean.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Like the professor who taught Bob and said "yes I remember Bob, he was in my class and was one of my more creative students", except that never happened, right? Exactly how would that put the innocent professor at risk to say Bob was in his class?
Originally posted by shushu
reply to post by Arbitrageur
Why drag innocent people into a dangerous situation after going public? I'm just surprised that nobody has come forward and said they knew him... unless they've been suppressed. If he were running for president they would be crawling out of the woodwork.
And how does this even begin to explain why Lazar seems more uneducated than educated?edit on 5-12-2011 by Arbitrageur because: clarification
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Like the professor who taught Bob and said "yes I remember Bob, he was in my class and was one of my more creative students", except that never happened, right? Exactly how would that put the innocent professor at risk to say Bob was in his class?
Originally posted by shushu
reply to post by Arbitrageur
Why drag innocent people into a dangerous situation after going public? I'm just surprised that nobody has come forward and said they knew him... unless they've been suppressed. If he were running for president they would be crawling out of the woodwork.
And how does this even begin to explain why Lazar seems more uneducated than educated?edit on 5-12-2011 by Arbitrageur because: clarification
Have you considered that he may have broken a protocol and was ordered to create a DISINFORMATION protocol break on a vid.....that used faulty physics and logic as to discredit himself? You have no idea how good the people at the Agency are! And by the way....I am not the first person to propose this concept so I am not revealing anything other than already public speculation. Split Infinity
Originally posted by shushu
reply to post by nv4711
Lazar Interviews
I have a problem with these "interviews." Go back and study the quotation marks and you'll understand why.
Some of the stuff you attributed to Lazar doesn't have quotes. So it takes on the appearance of hearsay by Mark Hines, M.A. as I couldn't determine what he used as his source. That's just me being picky.
I've seen videos of Lazar explaining things... by any chance do you have a link to where he says this stuff attributed by Hines??? That would make things more definitive... at least for me.edit on 5-12-2011 by shushu because: (no reason given)