Highest Radiation Ever Detected At Fukushima: 10+ Sieverts An Hour

Still not enough top executives falling on their swords or jumping out windows t suit me...somebody screwed the pooch big time and they all need to pay

It is simply not possible that the inhabitants of Japan would not check the radiation levels around their homes by themselves. Furthermore, it is not possible that the government could involve so many people into such a coverup without someone blowing the whistle by now. Human kindness is so great that many would sacrifice themselves to save millions.

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"not possible that the inhabitants of Japan would not check the radiation levels"

you ever see the price of one?,,,let alone there not exactly available at your local Wallmart,, you have one? would you know where too get one? how much are they,,etc,,,
So lets keep it real,, there just the same as u and i ,,

Bought my geiger counter/dosimeter on ebay before all of this, $140 delivered. Terra-p (Model MKC-05)

It runs constantly, has a dosimeter to measure my ongoing exposure, which in Melbourne, Australia, has more than doubled. Over the last 11 days, my total exposure has been .104 msv, double what it had been before this disaster. I have had to change the alarm from going off at the "Safe, legal indoor limit" of 0.30 to 2.5 (microsieverts), or I wont get any sleep. It is actually sitting at 0.31 at this moment.

Before the disaster, I rarely read levels above 2.5.. now I have seen peaks of over 98.15...

(My hardware is calibrated and tested, backed by 2 quartz filament dosimeters and a CDV survey meter)

reply to post by LilFox

Wow, that's pretty much radiation for normal background compared to my background here in Germany. I ordered my dosimeter (GammaScout Rechargeable) the day after Fukushima for EUR 400 (normal price for this device) and received it March 16. It's also measuring every 2sec. recording these values so you can analyse them and it's of cause calibrated.

Here in Hamburg the background I measure every day is just minimal higher (4%). Got reading of 100 nSv in the first days and now its 104-108 nSV so no real change here. In the last 11 days this would sum up to 0.028 mSv.

In the first days I had my warn level set to 0.2 microSv/h but this was to low. On 2-3 times a day the alarm went off as sometimes a spike of 0.25-0.3 microSv/h was measured. My current limit is set to 0.4 microSv/h and no alarm in the last 2 month with that.

Added: Maybe interesting as a sidenote is that the next nuclear reactor is just 20km away. Although not producing power at the moment due to electrical problems and planned to be shut down in the next years as it's a really old reactor like Fukoshima. So no high levels here right next to a reactor.

Geiger Counter are sold out since long, long Time,
there are a few in Akiba for the Price of 80.000 Yen, ca. 1,.000 USD
without warranty and from China.
(not really trustable, maybe a former Radio in a new Box)

But there are still many People who don't mind to pay this Price,
when we look at U-Stream, Youtube and Daily Motion we will see many Radiation Checks from Japan!

But the Situation is not sooooo simple too,
have a read:

Rice farmers, wholesalers worry about radioactive cesium tests

Rice farmers and wholesalers are uneasy about tests for radioactive cesium in rice crops and how those tests will affect shipments following the government's announcement of testing standards on Aug. 3. The Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries (MAFF) announced on Aug. 3 standards for cesium tests on this year's rice crop in 14 eastern prefectures that together produced 3.5 million metric tons of rice last year, about 40 percent of the country's total yield of 8.48 million metric tons. In Tome, Miyagi Prefecture, where rice straw feed has been suspected as the cause of radioactive cesium contamination in cows, 50-year-old rice farmer Akira Sudo pulls weeds with a grim expression. "If our rice passes the nation's double inspections, it will allow us to promote it as safe. But it's really tough harvesting my rice without knowing whether I'll be able to ship it in the end." He added, "All I can do is pray."

In Ibaraki Prefecture, a major rice producer of the Kanto region, there is both anticipation and uneasiness over the tests.

Read the whole Story here:

The silence of the US news...
Once they had no more new video to show-- nothing on TV, and the local paper never mentions it.

The initial reporting, here, was abysmal-- filled with lack of understanding of how the reactors work.

But now, I suspect two factors are primary for the lack of reporting:
1) The reporters knew from about day 3, that the official sources are disingenuous.
2) The reporters do not feel like risking their own lives to gather evidence.

Secondarily, there is the horrible reality that we are forced to assume that despite the lies, and despite the arrogance of the officials, the work being done is the best that can be done given the situation. They may lie about it, but they are acting. Over time, I fear we will hear of the premature deaths of some of the workers.

The fish picture--
That fish was quite mature-- born that way long before the disaster. Reminds me, 'though, of the Godzilla movies. I never watched them, but believe the concept was that the monster was a result of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs. Ironic, isn't it, that they feared it so much, yet the monster came from their own hands?

Why build on the sea shore and fault line?
All of Japan is prone to earthquakes-- so you put it where possible radiation leaks can do the least amount of damage to humans-- place it on the shore.

Besides, that concept comes up often in discussions about hydrogen fuel cell technology as well as desalinization technology to provide fresh water. A nuclear reactor is the only currently viable technology available to create enough hydrogen to operate fuel cells in place of fossil fuels. Using the same technology for creating hydrogen is desalinization-- a potential solution to drought stricken areas, and diminishing availability of fresh water from rivers for agriculture. The mighty Rio Grande / Rio Bravo is sometimes a mere creek by the time it gets to the Gulf of Mexico-- all the water is used up by cities and farms before it gets that far.

I suspect, then, many US reactors will begin to be built along the coast.

If only any of the fusion reactor or cold fusion technology would work-- but we can build much better and safer fission reactors than the ancient Fukushima.

Reality check-- without electrical power to supply air conditioning [it was 103F (40-something C?) at sunset last night] my computer won't work, my TV won't work-- and for that matter, I won't work.

Tree huggers and whale savers take note-- charging your "hybrid" cars is threatening my air conditioning. You can charge your cars when you can get solar energy to do it, but meanwhile, you are not doing anyone any favors-- it is not "green."

Originally posted by SeattlesFinest
reply to post by Jordan River

 

are you saying radiation has a taste of pickles?

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How is it that you have so many stars for providing that disinformation? Clearly, quality over quantity is not in your vocabulary.

Originally posted by Asheliate
reply to post by BobAthome

 

How is it that you have so many stars for providing that disinformation? Clearly, quality over quantity is not in your vocabulary.

i think u have a video too watch,, sort of catch up,,,,

reply to post by BobAthome


You mean like some 9/11 conspiracy movies? No thanks. I'll stick with the History Channel and its shows like Ancient Aliens.

Originally posted by Asheliate
reply to post by BobAthome

 

You mean like some 9/11 conspiracy movies? No thanks. I'll stick with the History Channel and its shows like Ancient Aliens.

no actually its about a very brave girl,, she is head of spca in Fukushima Prefecture,, she is giving her life, too the care and treatment of the farm animals,, cats,, dogs,, goats,, horses,, etc,, that were abandoned,,, its her decision,, by life i mean she recieves, daily doses of up to 6 sivets,, that right not milli,,, a DAY.
to rescue these animals,,,and so she Smuggled,, ya its a crime now,, a video,, out too the caring people of this world,, to let them know , that well for one ,, customs held up the distribution of guiger counters, too the people,, but anyway,, she's dying,, im bull#ting,, and your right ,, lets go watch History Television, cause baby there aint much left.

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It is very sad to hear about how the kindness of the few results in the ultimate sacrifice. My dad worked as paramedic in Chernobyl after the accident and he said that the government issued a statement that it was perfectly safe to go into the area. He developed thyroid cancer and had it removed and now survives off of pills.

The point is that I can't stand when people like the author of this thread blow things out of proportion even though it is nearly impossible for governments to coverup such disasters all thanks to people like the girl.

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sadly,,the author is correct,, sorry about your dad,,and the 200,000 soldiers were a lot of brave men the world never knew about,, its not fair too them or your father,,, thats all i can say.
dont let it happen again

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hey buddy i agree totally no offense but where is the venting going the air what gets hot the air am i right

reply to post by Asheliate


How is it disinformation?

What parts are blown out of proportion?

I bet 100% you have no real legitimate position and are merely DOWNPLAYING the situation greatly based entirely off "how you feel" and "your opinions". Well most of us here aren't operating that way, we are looking at facts and trying to gauge reality based off those facts and possibilities.

Bring us some facts, show us how this is out of proportion. Don't just say it is and then not give elaborate explanations, otherwise get used to us blowing it out of proportion because if you cannot enlighten us to how we are wrong we are just gonna continue, thanks.

Originally posted by Asheliate

The point is that I can't stand when people like the author of this thread blow things out of proportion even though it is nearly impossible for governments to coverup such disasters all thanks to people like the girl.

100% wrong. Fukushima has been covered up pretty well, just not by a concrete sarcophagus sadly.

Professor Kodama is the head of the Radioisotope Center of Tokyo University, he is an extremely intelligent nuclear physician (medical doctor) who knows far more than anyone else around here about how radioisotopes affect the human body.

He rails against the Japanese Government and TEPCO, reveals the depths of their corruption, and essentially lays into them on the floor of the Lower House in the Japanese Diet (their version of Congress or Parliament).

Watch the videos please.




And here is the ATS Thread that I created about the two videos.

Originally posted by Janky Red
We need Nuclear Plants here in America

Greetings:

Step up to the plate and state your case, or slink away into the darkness from whence you came, linkless/clueless Janky Red.

Just kidding... kinda.

Thank you for your time, consideration and participation and we look sincerely forward to further communication.

We might suggest, however - if you are serious - to please to have a read here first:

Will America's Nuclear Power Plants Fail in an 8.0 Earthquake?

And here:

Is This the Beginning of the End of Nuclear Power in the U.S.?

And here:

America's Being Nuked - Can we Together Stop the Madness?

Perhaps, with the proper preparation, we can engage in a spirited debate.

We have even provided the IAEA Briefing (3 May 2011) on the Fukushima Nuclear Accident - an interesting read.

IAEA Briefing on Fukushima Nuclear Accident
3 May 2011, 19:50 UTC

Atoms for Peace
The IAEA is the world's center of cooperation in the nuclear field. It was set up in 1957 as the world's "Atoms for Peace" organization within the United Nations family. The Agency works with its Member States and multiple partners worldwide to promote safe, secure and peaceful nuclear technologies.

Our Work
The IAEA works for the safe, secure and peaceful uses of nuclear science and technology. Its key roles contribute to international peace and security, and to the world's Millennium Goals for social, economic and environmental development.

We find the following information from the IAEA News to be disconcerting, to say the least.

Add the fact that today is 5 August 2011 and the latest update is from 2 June 2011, and one might wonder WTF?

We will merely highlight certain areas of this report, and hope to set the hook for others to investigate many of these assertions further.

25 April 2011

Management of On-site Contaminated Water
According to the 25 April evaluation by NISA of the report submitted by the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), there is a little less than 70 000 tonnes of stagnant water with high-level radioactivity in the basement of the turbine buildings of Units 1, 2 and 3.

...a little less than 70,000 tonnes of stagnant water with high-level radioactivity in the basement of the turbine buildings of Units 1, 2 and 3.

This amount and date should be added to the database on reported amounts of radioactive water being sloshed about.

We are sure that the numbers do not add up correctly in the long run.

The stagnant water (around 120 m3) in the basement of the turbine building of Unit 6 was transferred to a temporary tank on 1 May.

To our way of thinking, this statement indicates a finalization of the process.

However:

The transfer of stagnant high-level radioactivity water from the basement of the turbine building of Unit 6 was resumed on 2 May.

120 cubic meters... why this statistic in different terms than tonnes?

A cubic meter of water weighs one metric tonne. So, 120 c/m = 120 tonnes.

Why confuse the issue?

How much more high-level radioactivity water is there to transfer?

[color=limegreen]It has always been our contention that the information so vitally necessary to our survival as a species is intentionally garbled by utilization of a myriad of terms - much like radiation readings -
to confuse the reader.

Work to block the Unit 2 trench pit was started on 1 May.

What are the dimensions and where does this trench go / connect to?

Why does it need to be blocked?

Thought that these trenches were being utilized to "funnel away" all these tonnes of water being injected to cool what's left of the reactors... OK - TO WHERE?

Is this a part of the suspected (UC) MOX nuclear weapons facility?

Plant Status
On 27 April TEPCO provided an update of the estimated percentage of core damage for Units 1, 2 and 3 following an assessment (the values assessed previously which TEPCO had provided on 15 March are given in parentheses):
Unit 1: 55% core damage (70%) 15% DECREASE
Unit 2: 35% core damage (30%) 5% INCREASE
Unit 3: 30% core damage (25%) 5% INCREASE

(Color added by us for emphasis.)

This reflects a revised assessment [color=limegreen]rather than any recent changes in conditions in the reactor cores.

Hey, team, does this jive with previous info released by TEPCO and/or the JAPGOV?

Still blowing smoke...

White "smoke" continues to be emitted from Unit 2 and Unit 3. There was no more white "smoke" seen emanating from Unit 4 as of 21:30 UTC on 25 April or from Unit 1 as of 21:30 UTC on 30 April.

In Unit 1 fresh water is being continuously injected into the reactor pressure vessel through the feedwater line at an indicated flow rate of 6 m3/h using a temporary electric pump with off-site power.

In Unit 2 and Unit 3 fresh water is being continuously injected into the reactor pressure vessel through the fire extinguisher line at an indicated rate of 7 m3/h using temporary electric pumps with off-site power.

On 29 April TEPCO checked the status inside the reactor building of Unit 1 using a remotely controlled robot and confirmed that there was [color=limegreen]no significant leakage of water from the primary containment vessel. Nitrogen gas is still being injected into the containment vessel in Unit 1 to reduce the possibility of hydrogen combustion inside the containment vessel. The indicated pressure in the reactor pressure vessel is still increasing.

The indicated pressure in the reactor pressure vessel is still increasing.

This would seem to indicate that there are no leaks in the RPV as of today, 29 April 2011.

Perhaps an important point to remember.

In Unit 1, the indicated temperature at the feedwater nozzle of the reactor pressure vessel is
142° C and at the bottom of reactor pressure vessel is 106° C.

Hot water (286.7˚ F) is being injected at 6 tonnes/hour.

Where is this water going?

Why hot water? We thought the objective was to cool.

In Unit 2 the indicated temperature at the feedwater nozzle of the reactor pressure vessel is 118 °C. The reactor pressure vessel and the dry well remain at atmospheric pressure. On 28 April an amount of 43 tonnes of fresh water was injected into the spent fuel pool using the spent fuel pool clean-up system.

Why the difference in water temperature?

Where is this fresh water coming from that it is hot?

On 28 April an amount of 43 tonnes of fresh water was injected into the spent fuel pool using the spent fuel pool clean-up system.

Does this indicate that the SFP "clean-up system" is back to fully operational status?

On 2 May an amount of 55 tonnes of fresh water was injected into the Unit 2 spent fuel pool using the fuel pool clean-up system.

In the matter of only 4 days, where did the previously-injected water go? If it was filled only on 28 April, 55 tonnes of water is "missing" from the SFP clean-up system, indicating something less than fully operational... n'est-ce pas?

Or is all back to "normal" and merely "circulating" the water? If so, where did the water go?

In Unit 3 the indicated temperature at the feed water nozzle of the reactor pressure vessel is 99 °C and at the bottom of the reactor pressure vessel is 124 °C. The reactor pressure vessel and the dry well remain at atmospheric pressure.

Again, why the difference in water temperature?

There has been no change in the status in Unit 5 or in the common spent fuel storage facility.

OK now for you "anti-scattering agent" buffs.

Spraying of anti-scattering agent at the site is continuing. An area of about 1 000 m2 on the south side of the turbine building of Unit 4, and an area of about 4 400 m2 of the surface on the slope around the former main office building, near the on-site gymnasium and on the west side of the shallow draft quay, were sprayed on 1 May.

And now, for something completely different.

2. Radiation Monitoring
The daily monitoring of deposition of caesium and iodine radionuclides for the 47 prefectures continues. Deposition of Cs-137 and Cs-134 was detected in six prefectures on 2 May. The values reported ranged from 2.6 Bq/m2 to 19 Bq/m2.

Compared with recent data, deposition of these radionuclides has been detected in fewer prefectures and in lower amounts than for previous days.

Recent data being the immediately preceding 51 days since 3/11?

"Fewer prefectures" and "lower amounts than for previous days" is Newspeak - Doublethink- Goggledegook - Bravo Sierra - it all means the same - disinformation.

Gamma dose rates are measured daily in all 47 prefectures.

[color=limegreen]A general decreasing trend has been observed in all locations since around 20 March.

How is this possible?

Does this even seem feasible - or is the fix already in at this early date?

Take particular look of the low descriptions being used in the following portion of this travesty.

Gamma dose rates reported on 2 May remain at 1.7 µSv/h for Fukushima prefecture and 0.11 µSv/h for Ibaraki prefecture.

The other 45 prefectures had gamma dose rates of below 0.1 µSv/h, falling within the range of local natural background radiation levels.

Gamma dose rates reported specifically for the eastern part of Fukushima prefecture, for distances of more than 30 km from the Fukushima Daiichi plant, ranged from 0.1 µSv/h to 19.7 µSv/h, as reported on 2 May.

Since 1 April there has been [color=limegreen]one remaining restriction on the consumption of drinking water relating to I-131 (with a limit of 100 Bq/L), which is applicable only for [color=limegreen]one village in the Fukushima prefecture and [color=limegreen]only for infants.

According to the Japanese Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology (MEXT), I-131 was detected in one prefecture on 29 April, with a reported value of 0.22 Bq/L; in two prefectures on 30 April, with reported levels of 0.04 Bq/L and 0.10 Bq/L respectively; and in one prefecture on 1 May, with a reported level of 0.38 Bq/L. Cs-137 was reported on 30 April in only one prefecture, with a measured level of 0.05 Bq/L.

All these levels are [color=limegreen]below the limits set by the Japanese authorities for the restriction of water consumption due to the presence of radionuclides. The other samples did not show levels of radionuclides above the detection limit for I-131, Cs-134 and Cs-137.

This implies that there was no I-131, Cs-134 and Cs-137, which simply is not the case.

Food Restrictions
On 1 May restrictions were lifted on the distribution of raw unprocessed milk in Fukushima prefecture from the city of Minamisouma (limited to Kashima-ku and excluding Karasuzaki, Ouchi, Kawago and Shionosaki areas) and Kawamata town (excluding Yamakiya area).

That's great news, right?

After all, only on 19 March did this news come out regarding the contamination of milk in Japan.

Japan Finds Radiation in Milk, Drinking Water
www.komonews.com...
FUKUSHIMA, Japan (AP) - In the first sign that contamination from Japan's stricken nuclear complex had seeped into the food chain, officials said Saturday that radiation levels in spinach and milk from farms near the tsunami-crippled facility exceeded government safety limits.
...
Six workers trying to bring the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant back under control were exposed to more than 100 millisieverts of radiation - Japan's normal limit for those involved in emergency operations, according to Tokyo Electric Power Co., which operates the complex. The [color=limegreen]government raised that limit to 250 millisieverts on Tuesday as the crisis escalated.

Officials said the crisis at the plant appeared to be stabilizing, with near-constant dousing of dangerously overheated reactors and uranium fuel, but the situation was still far from resolved.

And, perhaps , the quote of the day from 19 March 2011:

We more or less do not expect to see anything worse than what we are seeing now,
said Hidehiko Nishiyama of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency.

Not to be outdone with this gem:

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano, meanwhile, insisted
the contaminated foods pose no immediate health risk.

3. Marine Monitoring
The marine monitoring programme is carried out both near the discharge areas of the Fukushima Daiichi plant by TEPCO and at off-shore stations by MEXT. (The locations of the sampling positions have been provided in previous briefings.)

Increased radioactivity in the marine environment occurred by aerial deposition and by discharges and outflow of contaminated water with a high radioactivity level.

Really?

Marine Discharges
In a news release issued on 25 April, NISA communicated its evaluation of a report submitted by TEPCO on 21 April in relation to contaminated water with a high radioactivity level that flowed out from Unit 2 of the Fukushima Daiichi plant.

The outflow rate is estimated to have been approximately 4.3 m3/h. The concentrations of the relevant radionuclides, estimated from measurements, were 5400 MBq/L of I-131, 1800 MBq/L of Cs-134 and 1800 MBq/L of Cs-137.

The outflow rate is estimated to have been approximately 4.3 m3/h.

Exactly what amount of contaminated water with a high radioactivity level are we talking about?

(Another instance where the water database comes in handy.)

4.3 cubic meters/hour is 4.3 tonnes/h, right?

How many hours are we speaking of, or is this an on-going situation?

Seawater Monitoring
The activity concentrations of I-131, Cs-134 and Cs-137 in sea water at the screen of Unit 2 were measured every day from 2 April to 30 April. The [color=limegreen]concentrations fell by several orders of magnitude from initial values of more than 100 MBq/L at the beginning of April to less than 10 kBq/L for Cs-134 and Cs-137 on 30 April, with a continuing decreasing trend.

These figures also seem to be incorrect in both the numbers quoted and the inference that all are on a "continuing decreasing trend."

Newspeak.

However, levels of I-131 remained at around 100 kBq/L from 26 April to 30 April at this sampling position. The sandbags containing Zeolite® absorbers that were placed at several locations between Unit 2 and Unit 4 to reduce the concentrations of Cs-134 and Cs-137 seem to be effective.

The concentrations of the relevant radionuclides at the other TEPCO sampling positions show a [color=limegreen]general decreasing trend up to 30 April.

Monitoring performed by MEXT at off-shore sampling positions consists of:

Measurement of ambient dose rate in air above the sea;
Analysis of ambient dust above the sea;
Analysis of surface samples of seawater; and
Analysis of samples of seawater collected at 10 m above the sea bottom.

The analysis for almost all sampling positions has shown a general decreasing trend in concentrations of the relevant radionuclides over time.

Tommyrot.

Samples were taken at stations 1 - 10 every four days after 2 April. Activity concentrations at MEXT sampling points 30 km off-shore are significantly lower than those at TEPCO sampling points 15 km off-shore.

None of the activity concentrations of I-131 and Cs-137 in surface samples taken from points 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and S-3 on 27 April and from points 2, 6 and S-4 on 25 April were above the detection limits.

Samples taken from points 4, 8 and 10 showed concentrations of Cs-137 between of 10.5 Bq/L and 40 Bq/L.

Only the sample from point 10 had an I-131 activity concentration, at 21.5 Bq/L, that was above the detection limit.

Samples were taken at the recently added off-shore stations at the Ibaraki prefecture on 25 April. [color=limegreen]There were no activity concentrations of I-131 and Cs-137 in the surface layer of sea water that were above the detection limits.

(Bangs head on desk and reaches for the Gentleman Jack for medicinal purposes...)

Radiation Monitoring in Ports
On 22 April the Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (MLIT) issued guidelines for radiation measurements in ports in Japan in order to provide foreign port authorities with accurate data. The guidelines cover gamma dose rate measurements for export shipping containers and shipping as well as radiation monitoring of the atmosphere and of sea water in ports.
source

And this is an "official" report issued to the public.

No wonder the cover-up is so complete... disinformation everywhere.

Will we stand for much more of this?

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw

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excuse me your honor i would like too answer this part,, if i may,, as all the facts need too be clear with no misunderstanding

BOILER SHOCK

and i quote
"Why hot water? We thought the objective was to cool. "

to subject the vessel too ,, a too large a drop in temperature,, ie cold water on hot skillet,, it would have blown too pieces.

"objective was to cool."
but we still have too follow good thermal hydrolics.

NEVER PUT COLD WATER in a HOT BOILER

I'm sorry ,, your Honor,,

still reading.



other than that,, well written

reply to post by BobAthome

Greetings:

You are so right...

And it is so obvious (if we weren't looking for something nefarious)...

And we are so thankful for your nice way of saying what you said and we learned a thing or two...

We were wondering: how long does the corium and associated rubble in the reactor core remain critical?

Thank you for your time and consideration.

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw