Congresswoman: Norway gunman touted lax US gun laws

When did his gun change?! All the original reports said he used an AK5.

reply to post by DataWraith
What about all the weapons the US Government and contractors makes then SELL abroad?? to answer your question the UN ban states that GOV, Law enforcement , mil is exempt, and its suppliers. it just bans the individual citizen from having the right to defend them selves. here is a link that tells how the UN will enforce the ban www.un.org... and this is the home page for the UN to take your guns fire arms and make you defenseless yes even you hunting rifle, if it has the word sporter not hunting in it.



www.un.org...

Originally posted by LordBaskettIV
When did his gun change?! All the original reports said he used an AK5.

Do a Google News for Mini 14 and a whole mess of articles come up about the shooting and him buying a Mini 14 and using a Mini 14.

I searched for AK5 and didnt get anything about the shooting.

Do you have any links to these early reports?

The funniest thing is that these articles mention all the high capacity magazines he had for the rifle. Here in the US finding a working high cap mag for a Mini 14 is crazy difficult. Factory mags run $50 or more and replacement mags all suck.

The only mentioning I've found so far of an AK5 is in this thread about the incident here but there is no citation just posters stating it was so.

eh, maybe that's where I saw it.

On the high cap mag issue, it's retarded. I can get 75 round barrel drums for an AK 47 or a 100 round RPD. If this dude really wanted high capacity he went the wrong way. 25-30 rounds seems average to me. Anyhoo, where was the norway government checking imported goods? Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill.

reply to post by LordBaskettIV
well it could be the last one on the link world.guns.ru... the AK5D not saying it is or is not but it might be the MP5 but that is a9mm not a .223

Every idiot, who is crying, that all this only would be used to take away his weapons, and every sick person, who thinks, that this is all a flag job to make his life worse, because he has to give away his gun, should be observed very closely.
There is something wrong with you, guys, and you need help. Try to get it very soon. Most of you won't end up as a mass killer, but as an old idiot. So try to get social contacts and remember the good things in life. There are some.

reply to post by Siddharta


What??
Here is what I just read.
www.youtube.com...

The black market will always have suppliers all across the world. It doesnt matter what country youre in,the criminals will ALWAYS have guns, so it sbest to let your citizens arm themselves so they can defend their homes.

I PROMISE you, if they take away our right to own and possess firearms in the US, the ONLY thing theyre going to accomplish is disarming honest tax paying citizens. The criminal organizations, gangs,mafia etc. will not disarm, they will have firearms when the rest of us are defenseless, then what?

If Europe was half as "sophisticated" as it claimed to be, they would start arming their citizens. Ofcourse they wont because their governments are afraid the citizens will revolution up. Nations who disarm their citizens do so because they learned how easy it is to throw a revolution when the people are pissed off and tired of taking BS from the ruling class/caste, so they conscripted laws to disarm their people. The ONLY reason nations remove the rights to bear arms is exactly because a people pissed off with access to firearms is one hell of a force to be reckoned with. I can promise you this, a corrupt politician or government will never take you seriously until they are staring down the barrel of your guns.

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Just to note..

The shooting isn't alleged.. Anders however is the alleged shooter.

reply to post by LordBaskettIV


Every gun is an AK to journalists.

This is a fact.

Originally posted by Miraj
reply to post by LordBaskettIV

 

Every gun is an AK to journalists.

This is a fact.

Kind of like this?

Her voting record

Just some info on this persons voting record on several issues.

Voted YES on modifying bankruptcy rules to avoid mortgage foreclosures. (Mar 2009) Voted YES on additional $825 billion for economic recovery package. (Jan 2009) Voted YES on monitoring TARP funds to ensure more mortgage relief. (Jan 2009) Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008) Voted YES on $60B stimulus package for jobs, infrastructure, & energy. (Sep 2008) Voted YES on defining "energy emergency" on federal gas prices. (Jun 2008) Voted YES on revitalizing severely distressed public housing. (Jan 2008) Voted YES on regulating the subprime mortgage industry. (Nov 2007) Voted YES on restricting bankruptcy rules. (Jan 2004) Member of House Banking Committee. (Mar 2011)

Voted YES on prohibiting job discrimination based on sexual orientation. (Nov 2007)
Voted NO on Constitutionally defining marriage as one-man-one-woman. (Jul 2006)
Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
Voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)
Voted NO on protecting the Pledge of Allegiance. (Sep 2004)
Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003)
Voted NO on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998)
Shift from group preferences to economic empowerment of all. (Aug 2000)
Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001)
Constitutional Amendment for equal rights by gender. (Mar 2001)
Rated 73% by the ACLU, indicating a pro-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
Issue a commemorative postage stamp of Rosa Parks. (Dec 2005)
Rated 88% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 92% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)
ENDA: prohibit employment discrimination for gays. (Jun 2009)
Re-introduce the Equal Rights Amendment. (Mar 2007)
Constitutionally prohibit flag desecration. (May 2009)
Supported legislation on violence against women & safety. (Jul 1999)
Supported funding for women's and disadvantaged businesses. (Jul 1999)

If this happened in Texas, it wouldn't have happened. he would have gotten a couple.. but then his body would have been riddled with bullets.

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Siddharta

 

What??
Here is what I just read.
www.youtube.com...

Hehe! What ever you wanted to say, the Monties said it.

Still everybody who needs a weapon to be able to love his wife and children and feel secure in his neighbourhood is a dangerous idiot and everybody who thinks, the Norwegian tragedy is just a fake should be behind bars right now. No guns to maniacs!

And be honest: Here are more maniacs than anywhere else.

reply to post by Kingbreaker


Thats pretty much why I wouldnt expect to see any cases like this in the US.

Im not attempting to insult Europe's view on firearms when I say this.. But it's pretty clear the reason he got so far was because he didn't have anyone to fight back against him.

I'm sorry -- And I really hate America politically -- but it's up to them the laws in their own country. Furthermore, I have to defend Americans on this issue, I think the right to self-protection is a bloody good law!

I mean, look, what are we going to do? If people forgot, the Norway killer also used fertiliser... Should we ban fertiliser?

Originally posted by Kingbreaker
If this happened in Texas, it wouldn't have happened. he would have gotten a couple.. but then his body would have been riddled with bullets.

Of course, you cowboys are the coolest. You simply could forget the Charles Whitman #, because you are so cool, I guess.

Originally posted by Siddharta

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Siddharta

 

What??
Here is what I just read.
www.youtube.com...

Hehe! What ever you wanted to say, the Monties said it.

Still everybody who needs a weapon to be able to love his wife and children and feel secure in his neighbourhood is a dangerous idiot and everybody who thinks, the Norwegian tragedy is just a fake should be behind bars right now. No guns to maniacs!

And be honest: Here are more maniacs than anywhere else.

Sorry, but still gibberish.

Originally posted by Miraj
reply to post by Kingbreaker

 

Thats pretty much why I wouldnt expect to see any cases like this in the US.

Im not attempting to insult Europe's view on firearms when I say this.. But it's pretty clear the reason he got so far was because he didn't have anyone to fight back against him.

Blablabla... If he was after you in the supermarket, you would have ramboed him between the shelves for soup, and if he was after your son at school, you would have Charly Changed him, and if he was after your daughter at the kindergarden you would have Osama bin Ladened him... Yes, you are really a cool people.

Europeans wonder, how things like that happen here, because they are only used to hear, such things happen in "cool" America, where everybody is his own John Wayne - and maybe his own Anders Breivik...

reply to post by macman


Nevermind. There is a big distance between the two of us. If we really want to understand each other, we would have to tame each other. Since your avatar frightens me, you should start.