Congresswoman: Norway gunman touted lax US gun laws

Originally posted by Britguy
Quick question, not entirely off topic: how many were killed last weekend?

all weekend and into this week, the figure was being put in the 90's. I then hear on the radio this morning, and then later on tv news, that the death toll is 76.

Now, I am assuming the original death toll from last weekend must have been based on a body count? Did a bunch people found dead get up and walk off, or did somebody screw up big time on the body count? Just seems a bit strange!

hell yeah, it was 86 or 7 if i recall, at the island.

and what kind of gun holds a mag with 200 rounds?

So just using an example here, if a person commits a crime in the United States, their opinion is now relevant in the Norway government?

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere

A lot of fanboys and the new heads of the company have been going nuts trying to bury what Bill did.

edit on 29-7-2011 by thisguyrighthere because: (no reason given)

Thanks and yes....going nuts trying to bury what Bill did.

I did see a report once about the mini-14 being at one time the number one weapon used in the death and wounding of federal agents, not that this number is very large its just that the mini was no1 pick for anti governemet hard core in the 70s at least. Up unto a time anyway. An easy to convert to full auto weapon. So Bill was probably under some heat for some time before that.

So what she is really saying is that the ATF sold this Quisling Manchurian Candidate his firearms!

Trivial, reactionary garbage. Get off your tail and make the import of such items illegal in your country. If they already are, well, have a talk with the U.S. company that is shipping "illegal" items to your nation.

High-cap magazines are invaluable in the worst-case scenario we have to fight off some sort of occupation at home, criticize it all you want sweet cheeks.

Wish people in leadership positions would grow a spine and a brain and put an end to their reactionary idiocy. It's the same across the globe. Something goes wrong and some limp-wristed, slack-jawed, jerk-off politician steps to up head a new "battle" against whatever scape goat they can use to pin the problem on. How about we get to the real source of many if not most of our problems; political leadership. How about you legislate for the removal and DESTRUCTION of incompetent and incapable political figures who refuse to utilize intelligence and rationality. There's some legislation I could get behind.

reply to post by ateuprto


Now that right there is some good sense. I think you are right , politicians need to start stepping up to the plate, and prevent themselves getting bogged down in pointless blabbering, while avoiding doing any real work.

Its procrastination like this that kept various intelligence agencies in Norway and other places in Europe from picking this guy up before the whole incident kicked off any way! Jolly well said on your part ateuprto. I could also get behind a political system which prevented lazy good for nothing half wits from running nations!

reply to post by TrueBrit


Thanks brother. For all the bickering we do in our respective nations, it's about time to "sh** or get off the pot" on our part. Both our nations, in their current form, are meant to be run by the people, meaning the griping public. A whole matter of issues has been allowed to build like plaque that prevent us from doing so effectively. The best we can do at this stage is to become motivated en-mass to vote for politicians who may not head a party or have the money, but that speak rationally to the populace across petty political and economic lines. That's what motivated my first-ever political sponsorship of Dr. Paul in my signature.

Let's hope we can do this peacefully, as the only other option requires far too much bloodshed.

Originally posted by ateuprto
Trivial, reactionary garbage. Get off your tail and make the import of such items illegal in your country. If they already are, well, have a talk with the U.S. company that is shipping "illegal" items to your nation.

Is that not exactly what they are complaining about? The US not respecting their laws by shipping in items they have banned the import of?

reply to post by ateuprto


Personaly speaking, if I could find a legitimate alternative to the hegemony we have operating in our nation (and by that I mean that the UK has been run by either one of, or a coallition of , the same old parties for years) then I would vote for it. Unfortunately , there are not any alternative parties or for that matter candidates who ever seem to have thier finger appropriately over the pulse point of my nation.

I cant vote green in good faith, because I know they would be useless at recovering our nation from debt. I cannot vote BNP because that would be an insult to the memory of every man who fought alongside my grandfathers in the second world war, and would make a waste of all thier effort, and blood. I cannot vote UKIP because I know them to be a corrupt and dangerous association of misfit egoists and grandstanders, with little to no value beyond thier tv image, which rears its head only on issues of Europe and the like.

The only independants there are, seem to be one or another form of puppet of one of the other parties or organisations I have previously mentioned. The rot is so deep here, that there are no options so it would seem, for a peaceful resolve to this utterly appalling situation. If one were to be found, I would jump upon it, and grasp it by the horns so to speak!

Congresswoman: Norway gunman touted lax US gun laws

So?

The only real logical response, unless she's implying that we abandon reason to generalize and punish firearm owners as equally responsible criminals because they happen to possess them. If that's the case, she's more of a threat then those she's implicating.

reply to post by Crapspackle


That is the responsibility of the Norwegians. Not to be used as some guilt trip on a nation founded on the citizen's right to bear whatever arms he or she so chooses. This Congresswoman should be ashamed of herself and her willingness to find a scapegoat for a problem that stemmed from political and religious idiocy. Blame it on the tools, never the individual, right?

reply to post by TrueBrit


We feel your pain over here as well. It's the exact same story. Dr. Paul doesn't seem to have the nation's pulse figured out, but the man at least has a long-shot and speaks rationally. Like choosing to be shot in the ass instead of the head.

As a species we're all in for some wild times regardless. I've got faith in humanity's ability to persevere and make it through in one piece, we always have.

reply to post by morder1


Norway has lots of guns.

reply to post by pshea38


I was pretty sure you were a space cadet with your completely insane theory.. but after seeing that you don't know what the U.S. looks like and think it resembles a rounded island I'm certain of it..

tell me something though...

what do you see here:

And who wants to bet that woman have a gun at home or her husband has one?

Politicians are all a bunch of hypocrites... especially in California... when the politicians passed a law exempting themselves from the Californian gun laws.... I am NOT kidding.

California lawmakers make themselves exempt from Ca. gun laws

What a bunch of bastards.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


I dont know what the poster you were refering this too would see, but I see a human pelvic bone, of unspecified gender.

Cracking stuff, can we do this again sometime?

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


Cowskull, definitely a cow's skull.

Originally posted by ateuprto
Blame it on the tools, never the individual, right?

Then who are the tools that are being blamed if not individuals? You mean the tools violating international laws? Then the US needs to stop other countries from sending me illegal things and just fight it at our border. Fair is fair.

reply to post by Crapspackle


Yes, because the rest of the world shows us the same courtesy. It's not the U.S. sending the items, it is an individual or a business residing in the U.S. sending them. If it is such a monumental problem then I guess cutting off trade with the U.S. would be the next viable option.

Originally posted by Zamini
reply to post by beezzer

 

How can you make such backward statements?

Wheels are not made to drive over people.

Guns are made to shoot people.

NO!!
A gun is designed and manufactured to safely fire a projectile, period. The use and application is up to the person.

Anti's are merely uneducated fools that fear an inanimate object, that refuse to come to terms that legislating possibilities never work.