**BREAKING NEWS** Maddy McCann possibly found in India

They have shown the photo to the parents and according to their firs impressions, it is not her. I personally beleive there is much more to this story than the parents have said. I would even go as far as saying that they are to blame. - shoot me!

Originally posted by CrankyPantsUK

Originally posted by IamRoy08
Who the hell is Maddy McCann?

There you go


After a one second google search.

Kids go missing all the time. Why bother writing Breaking News on a post about a girl who went missing 4 years ago who 'might' have been found. Even though, by skimming thru the replies, it seems the punpic oppinion is that the parents are the ones to blame.

reply to post by McGinty


You do know that the second picture of the older girls, is just an artists impression of what Maddie might look like today don't you?.......it's not a real person.

reply to post by CrankyPantsUK


i was going to make the exact same point when i came across youre post,class(money?)played a big part in the way this case was handled,that along with maddies picture perfect looks,i hope so much that litttle maddie is at peace,the other possibilities dont bare thinking about.

Originally posted by IamRoy08

Originally posted by CrankyPantsUK

Originally posted by IamRoy08
Who the hell is Maddy McCann?

There you go


After a one second google search.

Kids go missing all the time. Why bother writing Breaking News on a post about a girl who went missing 4 years ago who 'might' have been found. Even though, by skimming thru the replies, it seems the punpic oppinion is that the parents are the ones to blame.

It was global news when this girl went missing, and huge news here in the UK.

The parents even went on Oprah!

They have made tons of money from their daughters disapearance however there is a huge stink about the whole thing.

A conspiracy if you will.

Everyone here has a view about it and it is a very emotive issue here.

If the girl had been found then it would have been strataspheric in terms of media coverage.

In fact just the very possibilty that she had been found was the highest trending topic on twitter yesterday (along with "minge" for some reason ), such is the interest in the case.

Originally posted by Argyll
reply to post by McGinty

 

You do know that the second picture of the older girls, is just an artists impression of what Maddie might look like today don't you?.......it's not a real person.

Doh!

hi ATSers

i'm from Portugal (for those who dont know, thats where Maddie was missing), so I followed the story rigth from the beginning. IMO all the evidences point to the parents being the ones to blame.
And even if that wasn't true, c'mon, a missing child for 4 years and still breaking news. dont you think is enough??
Every year maybe dozens of children are missing in Portugal, and not a single one as deserved as much as 1% of the mediatic coverage that Maddie received!!! I can't teel exactly why but maybe because they're english and algarve is well known touristic place to people form northern europe??
I don't know, but I do know that Maddie as received more than enough attention...

Of course this wasn't Madeline as everything indicates she is dead and the parents know this better than any one. At the very least were responsible for neglecting the child and covering up her death, if not actually killing her.

If people would stop to assess the evidence without being swayed by the British media's biased reporting the picture of the McCanns is far from innocent.

Here are just some of the many reasons to be suspicious of the Mccanns.

1) There was actually no physical evidence of anyone breaking in to the holiday apartment, not a shred ! It was the British media and the McCann's that said Madeline was 'taken'.

2) Gerry McCann's statements about what happened would have given an intruder a matter of minutes to break in and take the sleeping girl and then climb away through a window with her undetected. Gerry Mccann was supposedly looking into the children's bedroom in the apartment whilst this intruder(s) hid in the tiny bedroom for some of this time.

3) The Mccanns (and the other Doctors they were dining with on the night) all changed their stories repeatedly of what had happened that night. All these doctors left their children alone whilst they had dinner and drunk, like the Mccanns.

4)Kate Mccann repeatedly checks the breathing of her younger children after declaring Madeline was 'taken'

5) Kate Mccann refuses to answer the police's 48 questions about her daughter's disappearance. Questions such as where Kate had looked for her daughter, why she left the twins alone in the apt. after finding Madeline gone,'was Madeline a difficult child? and did you consider giving Madeline to relatives to raise?

6) Kate Mccann washes her missing daughters precious 'cuddlecat' toy more than once before the police can carry out DNA tests.

7) The Mccanns never once actually joined the search for Madeline.

8) Gerry removes a defective fridge from their rented hoilday apt. , takes it to a local dump and buys a new fridge at his own expense.

9) cadaver scent is detected in the Mccann's rental car and apartment and on Kate's clothes.

10) Mccanns leave same rental car to bake in hot sun with doors and windows open for days.

11) Mccanns were given key to local church so they could access it 24 hours a day.

12) The priest who gave Mccanns the church key said he had 'been decieved' by them and would never reveal what he new.

13) Kate and Gerry release photos of Madeline's distinctive eye against police advice that any abductor would kill a child with such a unique condition.


There are so many other suspicious things about the McCanns story. They are both clever people and being doctors have a firm understanding of biology. I believe Gerry came up with the plan to cover up the real circumstances of Madeline's death so they (or maybe just Kate) would not be separated from their remaining children. Gerry seems to have a great flair for strategy and planning.

The chances are that if a body is ever found it will be extremely decomposed and unlikely to yeild any proof that the McCanns were involved. That would suit the McCanns as it would be an end to their charade.

Any sighting of 'Madeline' is great for the Mccanns as it will keep alive the 'kidnap' story they have managed to cement in so many people's minds.

Originally posted by NadaCambia

Originally posted by wigit

Originally posted by NadaCambia
That's all well and good, but doesn't apply to the millions of Britons who think they killed her.

Well, if that's the case then it shows just how many folk are walking this earth who are missing empathy and compassion for their fellow beings, and how backward a race we still are. Missing empathy goes under psychopath btw. But I'll bet anything, that if any one of those uncaring millions had a similar thing happen in their family they'd be crying out for folk who DO care to be on their side. Thank goodness there are some.

No. Lacking empathy would be believing the official McCann story and not caring for the girl, that isn't my position, I believe they killed their daughter! That isn't lacking empathy, that's having a viewpoint different to your own.

What you're doing is like saying people who support Mumia Abu-Jamal are in favour of cop-killing - While completely missing the fact that people who support Mumia don't believe him to have killed the police officer, and therefore such claims against the person are fallacious.

OR that people who don't believe the official story on 9/11 cannot empathise, care nothing for those dead and are therefore psychopaths. It's just a bogus and idiotic line of reasoning. And I'm offended you'd put that on me, without knowing a single thing about me, actually.

My ability to empathise is just fine. But so is my ability to use reason. All the evidence points to the fact the McCanns are a bunch of liars. I propose they're psychopaths.

Thanks.

edit on 28-7-2011 by NadaCambia because: (no reason given)

Hear hear, unfortunately i agree with you whole heartedly on the McCann case. Its good that some of us are starting to wake up to how people really are beneath all the show.

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


Very interested in No. 8. Was not aware of that fact. Will do some more digging here.

Thanks for this information

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


Very good post Doc.

reply to post by CrankyPantsUK


Thankyou Mr (or Mrs) Pants


with regards to the fridge story it was detailed by Gerry McCann on his own blog. He then removed the posts. He also detailed how his younger son/toddler liked sea bass (which just happens to mimic human cadaver scent!). This was also removed. So it's unlikely that the original posting will be found.

I'm sure the Portuguese police have records of this as they came up with the theory that Madeline's body was hidden in a fridge for some time and then transported in the rental car weeks after the 'abduction'.

I have always wondered if Madeline's body was hidden in the church of the priest who said he was 'decieved' by the parents.

Originally posted by CrankyPantsUK

Originally posted by gabbermatt
Why would you write a book about something like this?! All that screams to me is 'Money plox?!"

I was thinking maybe the kid was kidnapped until I saw them "celebrating their daughter's disappearance" with a book in front of them.... BS.

To be honest I think that poor Maddie has become the McCanns business venture..

Give your kid an overdose, bury her somwhere, make up a bs story, sell it to the media, then your quids inn...

These pair should have done jail time at least for gross neglect.

Most couples who have lost a kid in any situation tend to split up, but there is nothing like a cash cow and nasty shared secret to keep a family together hey?

No but what sort of a person would you be to suggest such a thing IF it is not true? A real cretin eh?
You suggesting people don't kidnap children and is that what is so difficult to believe? Or are you simply so envious of this loving family you want to tarnish the name of parents who have already suffered the greatest injury, losing a child and so now you want to punish them more?
Really that's more like it isn't it? I would stake my life in a second on the fact these two played no part in the death and abduction of their own child, except to let her sleep a distance away where someone could enter and steal the girl. It is not that uncommon to enter a unhinged bedroom window and steal children from her beds.
They were busy doing things in the company of others and since there flat was nearby they left the kids in it. At no point did the parents vanish so they could go and bury a child. I think you re ridiculous and since there is a lot in a name, I even have a clue why. Scorpion and the frog comes to mind. It's your nature.

And of course you may THINK whatever you want....but that doesn't make it true.

I think I've been living under a rock on this one...

Who's Maddy McCann and what makes her any different then any other child gone missing>

It would be a miracle if it was her but I doubt it very much...It would be nice though wouldn't it .......

I have my own opinions and insights until then........ I did try to see into this issue previously and it was quite disturbing, I did thread my results.

BTW the Parents should be in Prison ...not writing books

reply to post by DrHammondStoat

1) There was actually no physical evidence of anyone breaking in to the holiday apartment, not a shred ! It was the British media and the McCann's that said Madeline was 'taken'.

This isn't that odd. There was no struggle. Why would an abductor stop to pull out bits of hair or leave evidence? They are in and they are out as quickly.

2) Gerry McCann's statements about what happened would have given an intruder a matter of minutes to break in and take the sleeping girl and then climb away through a window with her undetected. Gerry Mccann was supposedly looking into the children's bedroom in the apartment whilst this intruder(s) hid in the tiny bedroom for some of this time.

It could have been a little before or a little after the intruder was inside and "looking" into a room indicates nothing to condemn the parents for.

3) The Mccanns (and the other Doctors they were dining with on the night) all changed their stories repeatedly of what had happened that night. All these doctors left their children alone whilst they had dinner and drunk, like the Mccanns.

If you already have a dead child on your conscious are you going to dine out with friends and leave the remaining children unattended? It doesn't make sense. Also you say which contradicts this.

I believe Gerry came up with the plan to cover up the real circumstances of Madeline's death so they (or maybe just Kate) would not be separated from their remaining children

4)Kate Mccann repeatedly checks the breathing of her younger children after declaring Madeline was 'taken'

Don't see this as suspicious.

5) Kate Mccann refuses to answer the police's 48 questions about her daughter's disappearance. Questions such as where Kate had looked for her daughter, why she left the twins alone in the apt. after finding Madeline gone,'was Madeline a difficult child? and did you consider giving Madeline to relatives to raise?

I think I would be pretty pissed off if cops were accusing me rather than working quickly to find her abductor before they left the country with my child. I don't think she took part in the search because she was being questioned and also as I recall they kept one parent based near where the child turned up missing in case they saw or heard something or Madeline somehow returned.

6) Kate Mccann washes her missing daughters precious 'cuddlecat' toy more than once before the police can carry out DNA tests.

Hardly damning.

7) The Mccanns never once actually joined the search for Madeline.

See above

8) Gerry removes a defective fridge from their rented hoilday apt. , takes it to a local dump and buys a new fridge at his own expense.

Well then Maddy should be in the old fridge at the dump. She wasn't so she was kidnapped.

9) cadaver scent is detected in the Mccann's rental car and apartment and on Kate's clothes.

Corrupt police? Like THAT could NEVER happen.

10) Mccanns leave same rental car to bake in hot sun with doors and windows open for days. 11) Mccanns were given key to local church so they could access it 24 hours a day. 12) The priest who gave Mccanns the church key said he had 'been decieved' by them and would never reveal what he new. 13) Kate and Gerry release photos of Madeline's distinctive eye against police advice that any abductor would kill a child with such a unique condition.

All pretty flimsy evidence. It is far more likely the child was abducted than her parents were complicit in her death. I would say odds are about 1 in a hundred they had anything to do with it. I would still bet my life on those odds.

Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by CrankyPantsUK

Originally posted by gabbermatt
Why would you write a book about something like this?! All that screams to me is 'Money plox?!"

I was thinking maybe the kid was kidnapped until I saw them "celebrating their daughter's disappearance" with a book in front of them.... BS.

To be honest I think that poor Maddie has become the McCanns business venture..

Give your kid an overdose, bury her somwhere, make up a bs story, sell it to the media, then your quids inn...

These pair should have done jail time at least for gross neglect.

Most couples who have lost a kid in any situation tend to split up, but there is nothing like a cash cow and nasty shared secret to keep a family together hey?

No but what sort of a person would you be to suggest such a thing IF it is not true? A real cretin eh?
You suggesting people don't kidnap children and is that what is so difficult to believe? Or are you simply so envious of this loving family you want to tarnish the name of parents who have already suffered the greatest injury, losing a child and so now you want to punish them more?
Really that's more like it isn't it? I would stake my life in a second on the fact these two played no part in the death and abduction of their own child, except to let her sleep a distance away where someone could enter and steal the girl. It is not that uncommon to enter a unhinged bedroom window and steal children from her beds.
They were busy doing things in the company of others and since there flat was nearby they left the kids in it. At no point did the parents vanish so they could go and bury a child. I think you re ridiculous and since there is a lot in a name, I even have a clue why. Scorpion and the frog comes to mind. It's your nature.

And of course you may THINK whatever you want....but that doesn't make it true.

I'm sorry to say that statistically speaking most missing or murdered children are victims of their parents or someone they know. Stranger kidnaps are actually very rare. It may be hard to believe but parents killing their children is much more common. The police would have no difficulty in accepting this.

Put this together with the distinct lack of evidence of anyone breaking into the apartment you can see why the police and many others hypothesise that the McCann's had something to do with their daughters disappearance. It is unfortunately the logical conclusion.

As for leaving their children alone whilst they got drunk, I personally think this is unforgivable. The McCanns were intelligent people, doctors who would've been aware that young children and babies can become endangered very quickly. They must also be aware that the law in England states children under 14 must not be left alone.

They had the money to hire baby sitters...but didn't. They went out drinking every night of their holiday and left their precious children alone. Any of these children could have become injured on any of these nights. I have no sympathy for these narcissists and believe they are hiding something. Madeline was unfortunately the victim of her parents neglect and a more working class, less connected family would have been prosecuted for neglect over this in the UK.

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


Clearly you despise these parents for the WAY they cared for their children and perhaps they are to shoulder some blame but to leap at accusing them of doing it themselves is a stretch. Your data on child abductions is only partially true. Child abductions have gone up 400 percent in recent years. In many cases it is the opposing parents but in as many cases it is not, it is a stranger or an acquaintance that abducts the child.

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by DrHammondStoat

 

Clearly you despise these parents for the WAY they cared for their children and perhaps they are to shoulder some blame but to leap at accusing them of doing it themselves is a stretch. Your data on child abductions is only partially true. Child abductions have gone up 400 percent in recent years. In many cases it is the opposing parents but in as many cases it is not, it is a stranger or an acquaintance that abducts the child.

Really my point is that as there was no evidence of an abduction taking place, it is only logical to investigate the parents of the child. The parents and the UK media are the ones that say an abduction took place with no evidence to back that claim.

There are so many contradictions and anomalies in the McCann's stories that it isn't a stretch at all to think they had something to do with it. No leaping or stretching is required, you only need to review the evidence and not rely on the British newspapers as sources.

reply to post by newcovenant


Numbers aside it is Cut & Dry.... The Parents left their children unattended in a foreign country check out the locations too it's quite a distance from where they were being entertained... Not in ear shot! Home Alone or in this case... minors in a hotel room ...NO SITTERS in a foreign country... There is no excuse at all... other than the disappearance itself, the Parents have comitted a crime they have never faced charges for!

Being a "Parent" myself ...yes I'm qualified and have a better understanding..... I would NEVER and may I add I've holidayed in Spain, leave my kids unattended at any point be it night or day for any reason. I'm usually very calm but this subject makes me quite angry....
My wife made a good point, "if they went to kidnap children why not take them all... or if you only want one why not take the youngest harder to identify as they age"?

They are not fit to be parents plain and simple. If you wanted time away from the kids why take them on holiday with you?