Footage Everyone Must See.

Yep.. it will have to be something like what you mentioned to get everyone to believe. I think media and religious people can be hypocritical. They'll take the existence of God without hard evidence, but everything else requires it. I don't get this world.

Ha! Funny you say that...I started a thread about that a while back, on how religion and alien beliefs are so similiar.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Very interesting read. I don't want to get off topic, but when people have visions of Christ and the like, others are in awe and flock to hear the story.

When it comes to aliens, you get a raised eyebrow and a "visitor" pass to the nearest psych ward.

If all of this were true, wouldn't world as we know it changed back in 2001?
I'm totally in to the alien/ufo thing and this is the first I've seen of this footage. It's interesting but as mentioned by others here, it's all talk.

Originally posted by SupaFly
Very interesting read. I don't want to get off topic, but when people have visions of Christ and the like, others are in awe and flock to hear the story.

When it comes to aliens, you get a raised eyebrow and a "visitor" pass to the nearest psych ward.

Exactly! This is also why you can get more media coverage of a statue of Mary who's eyes are bleeding than you get of a supposed ufo crash site, or video.

You are all missing the point, look, i agree, this is all talk. But these people also have evidence to back up what they are saying. The fact of the matter is, your dream situation of 10,000 people all seeing and videotaping a world changing even is not going to happen is it? It just isnt.

The road to hard evidence has started through this project. The project its self is not just that one video. Sure i know that nothing has come about from this in a while, but i think it naive to believe that just because nothing has come about from it that we should disguard it. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. This wondeful hard evidence is not going to fall at your or my feet.

Are you just going to wait until it is brought to world attention by the government? When it is finally on Fox that they have landed will you believe it? Well thats just never going to happen! We need to take this upon ourselves to spread what we know to others.

Somewhere someone is trying very hard to keep this all under wraps, and its about time we put a stop to it. And we can, with a simple sycronisation of a letter to be started. This footage is of GLOBAL importance, and its about time it was finally sent around the world.

Your questions of why this hasnt changed the world is easy to answer, its because no-one has seen it, and no-one wants to believe it.

THIS IS AS OFFICIAL AS YOUR HARD EVIDENCE IS EVER GOING TO GET, IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD TO WATCH THIS, THE INTEREST WILL MOUNT MASSIVLEY AND PRESSURE WILL BE PUT ON THE AGENCIES COVERING THIS UP.

Please help in the spreading of this video tape and indeed the project itself, allthough as you have said, some of it is nothing new, to some people it is, to some people this is the only format in which anything is believable. Text on an internet site is a hoax, and pictures are fake. This is the real thing, and is the beginnings of a new turn over in our history. Please help

Look, I do get it. I do realize that the gov't isn't going to bring this to light. In fact they have made it thier point to keep it from the light. Which is why I fail to see how even distributing the video around the web will even help (but I will do my part and send it to the ones I know who will watch). Even if every person with an email address sees this, what then? What can they do once they see it? It's not like they will have the ability to force anyone to start utilizing the alien technology to help replace the use of fissil fules. It all comes down to what the powers that be will allow to be revealed on a massive scale. They have kept the truth from the publics eye all this time, what will this project to any differently that hasn't been done before to change that? When will they have the congressional hearing that so many have promised to testify at? Did they really think they would get the hearing they wanted? Did they really think they'd get the attention that they wanted with a international press conference? I'm not saying that they didn't try, or were wrong for trying at all, it's just that their attempts will fall on deaf ears, because the gov't will put the earmuffs on the public.

This is why I say that the only way for the "truth" to come out is with alien intervention.

it would certainly speed things up, but average joe has NO IDEA that this is, and did go on. Average Joe has no idea that there is a disclosure project, and average joe may be very much inclined to do something about it if he did know.

My point is, the more people that know about this the better. You can't just give in and let the agencies win because they have more power than you do, you have to fight back, with the most powerful tool we have. The internet.

There are so many people who dont know about this, and so few trying to stop them knowing.

You asked what would it change? If everyone with an email address dsaw this? It would change alot, a whole damn lot. Interest would mount, and people in the government who want this out would begin to turn cogs. We cannot predict every single reaction to this news, but the fact of the matter is, this news needs to spread to average joe.

All the people reading this who are not replying, you all know as well as i do that this footage is important. It may not be important to the skeptics who reply, but to you i know it is.

If you have forwarded this please post here saying so before this forum gets deleted. I even urge the moderators not to delete this forum on the grounds of the rules, as this i feel is so important that i think the rules should be bent just on this occasion.

Please help, we can change alot.

Because of the amount of "informational pollution" that exists, until craft park over major population centers and sit there a while, this is all going to look like nothing more than a money making deal. Like televangelism. Stories-even eyewitness accounts always end up collapsing into hearsay. They are going to have to better than call a press conference and parade witnesses in front of cameras. That's all thats ever happened. Richard Hoagland did a gig in front of the U.N. That didn't change the fact that he really didn't say or show anything positive. But it did make him some cash.

Why is everyone so synical? this footage is free, and if you weant them to do better go and do it yourself. You see the fact of the matter is, there is no HARD evidence? What evidence do you want? did average joe hear of this UN meeting? NO.

The intention of this project is not to give hard evidence but to raise awareness. This stuff IS going on and people need to know about it. Sure witnesses have been parded before, but these are first hand high rankers, who have recovered alien bodies from crashed vehicles.

Once again you have decided that due to media information pollution we are defeated before we even begin. I cannot believe how pesimistic everyone is. We can make a difference, stop bowing to the power and awe of bigger corporations, get off your computer chair and make a difference. Everyone is too frightened of failure. So what if it doesnt work? you made the effort, what have you got to lose. You are only not impressed by this because you have seen, heard and believe it all already. Most do not, and most do not go searching for answers, they want answers put on a plate, and its about time we served dinner.

YES this is all talk, YES there is media information pollution, YES the people trying to stop this getting aired have more money than we do. But we have more numbers, we have more answers, and we have more friends to tell. You see they can stop a show being put to air, but they cant stop us sending emails, once this gets out it will be like wildfire.

I also urge to forum moderators to make this a sticky subject. Its time to stop basking and washing in old evidence that we have seen time and time again, its time to raise awareness to normal people. This footage needs spreading, and stop telling yourself it wont make a difference. IT WILL.

I also intend to contact the canadian film maker who filmed all of the phenomenah in space and tell him about the project and visa versa. You see i feel it too stranger co-incidence that he is a film maker and owns his own channel, and the disclosure project have asked to be put in touch with film makers and channel owners, and the two of them have never yet heard of each other.

Please help and show your support, and that includes you moderators.

Why am I so cynical? I've been lied to by the government, lied to by the church, lied to by people just like you. I'm personaly done with talk. Show me the money. I can wait. People throw stuff up on these sites and we're supposed to blindly follow? This is silly. The burden of responsibilty is on those whose concepts are in opposition to what is shown as fact. How many dang times has the world supposed to have come to an end? How many times has Christ or the Antichrist supposed to have appeared? How long do we stuck between True believers and Blind skeptics need to endure this onslaught?

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You've been burned that slight one too many times. I have never believed ANY of the ridiculous world coming to an end, i have never believed or even heard of any of the ridiculous anti christ arrivals. Infact i am brand new to this forum, and i have only just started posting. The fact is that this IS important.

Youve already given up. The world isnt coming to an end, jesus has not come back, elvis IS dead, the NWO is one big paranoia, but this, oh THIS is the real. We all know it is, and just because youve been lied to by hoaxers does not take away from this event.

When will this onslaught stop? if you dont like it stop looking at the forum, go back to your everyday life and forget about it all, just ignore it. If you dont like all of this then walk away, no-one forces you read this.

Phillyharper

I would never want to damper your enthusiasm over this. I would only encourage you to keep talking with people about it. More importantly though, learn all you can about the entire subject so that you can make a larger difference in the understanding of the others you talk to. But remember that the alien races themselves, and the human ufo field are two entirely different things. The ufo field is made up of all the different kinds of things and ways that humans think when they don't really know, and it is mostly based on assumption and propaganda about the alien races.

Even the people who have contact with alien life do not know all about the aliens. Witnessing something does not explain all about it. There is "so much" to the visiting races and to contact itself, and the concepts of how things happen are advanced "so far" ahead of what we can understand yet, that what we come away with can only be largely inaccurate. Also there are "many" people leading the ufo groups and the ufo field who seem to be authority and claim to have alien contact who really don't at all.

Those agencies who cover up the visitation to our world do it by mixing up lots of disinformation with true information. They can't actually hide the aliens-- only the aliens can hide themselves. The govts use tactical, diabolical and psychological methods to disguise knowledge of evidence and information that is shared among the publics. They discredit the spiritual aspects of contact as well as leak hideous abduction accounts through the support groups. Their methods also include buying the silence and support of the very people who know the aliens and will begin to educated the public. The govt tries to use alien experiencers as their own spies against the aliens. It is "very" easy to ruin somebody's reputation or threaten them away from speaking out. It can be done with as little as one phone call. There is no such govt agency to protect alien experiencers yet.

To most people who have no personal knowledge or experience with the ufo field or the aliens themselves, all of this sounds like nonsense. It's taboo, superstition, idiocy, and people do not listen long enough for it to start making sense to them. When you talk about it too much, you yourself can look like you are nuts. This the govt agencies depend on, and a large part of the propaganda campaign is geared toward keeping it that way.

Our leading govts don't want the advanced races here because of the changes advancement is going to bring all people. The leading govts only want to control Earth and keep the publics ignorant for as long as possible, but the alien races will not share knowledge or technologies that could be used for any harm of anybody by corrupt govts. Also, many govt crimes are going to be exposed when we uncover what the govts have been doing with and to our visiting races, to the individual humans who work with the alien races and to anyone or anything else involved.

The leading govts are never going to "disclose" anything they already have reason to hide, including about the other races of people who visit Earth. It is up to the people to find out for themselves. Our visiting races have been trying to make open contact with our race for a long time, but our leading govts have been preventing it by attacks, threats, blackmail and by targeting the individual humans who speak out. The Disclosure Project, for now, will be turned around and used as another way to discredit the aliens and individual humans who try to inform the public about govt corruption, but every little bit of awareness helps, and more and more people are realizing that something is going on. "What" that something is, is kept to be even more mysterious to us than the aliens are.

I have posted other information in these forums about the alien races and govt investment with public opinion of them, but keep learning as much as you can about the politics of the subject from everywhere you can. And don't worry a bit about the aliens, they are fine people.

Kind Phillyharper, only you seem to KNOW it's real. This is degrading into the same circular, pointless argument that occurs in dealing with fundamentalist christians. Your won't admit it but, you are preaching faith. Maybe I will go back to my "little world". At least I can see for myself and I will not follow anyone on word alone. And that's all we really have here, words.

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Philly, your missing the point. What do you want the people to do once they have seen it? let's say that some "average joe" sees the video, takes a look at the site, begins to search the net on his own for similiar links and stories, then ultimately becomes a "believer". What then. They will most likely become angry that they have been lied to. They will begin to trust the gov't and the leaders much less. They will probably join websites just like this to further their knowledge as we have. But again, I say what next. Do you take it to the extreme? Do you grab a gun and march into the whitehouse demanding the truth be told? What is the guy working at Best Buy, selling cell phones supposed to do with this new knowledge besides get upset? I'm not saying that he shouldn't know the truth. Just that no one is coming up with a plan to utilize this truth. What is the man who put the project together doing today, right now? What steps is he taking to further his cause? Is he willing to die for the project? Will he make the ultimate sacrifice? It seems to me that the zealots beleive this is the only way to get the truth out, and that is not what the "average joe" is willing to go thru.

i am not in the slightest bit worried about their arrival, what i am concerned about is that i think now is the time. For 50 years it has been covered up, and now it is time to blow it out of the water. 50 years ago news spread slowly, they could get to you before you told the world, 50 years on things are different. We can tell who we want and they may well be able to track it, but they cannot stop it.

Thankyou very much for your post, it was well written and well thought out.

If there are one hundred white sheep in a field, and one of them says boo instead of baa, then they all think that the boo saying sheep is mad. But what if they all sad boo?

What if we all knew, and what if we all had seen the evidence. We are all then thinking along the same lines.

Earthsister, i know that you know you should spread this news. I KNOW the HUGE world implications of this and how it would change everything if it were to come out, but it is time. We all know it is.

Forward the link, PLEASE forward the link.

double post.

No i dont want anyone to kill anyone, and no im not preaching, as i myself do not fully understand the extent to this information. All i believe is that people have a right to know. People have a right to see it.

I do not expect anything from anyone who has seen it. I just, in recent enlightenment on the situation, feel that this topic has been looked forward to by generations of people and that when it finally comes about, no-one can see it.

im tired of looking at UFO pictures and autopsy pictures, and assessing wether it is real or fake. Im tired of the lack of news from the government, im tired of it all. My heart is of the same substance of Dr Greers, and i feel that as he says it IS time to let the people know.

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The more people that become aware and educated,the harder it is for the government to continue the coverup.And if being made aware of the situation encourages more people to challenge the powers that be through DIPLOMATIC means(i.e.writing to congress,voting out those constituents who are ignoring the problem,etc.)then what can that hurt?There is no harm with spreading the word,none at all.

Im with you on this 11th dimention i really am. I think that the disclosure project have done great work, but have not spread their news as efficiently as is possible.

There is no harm in spreading these claims, none at all.

This is listed as "footage everyone must see." What it is is another bunch of testimonials from people who seen something. I believe in alien life and the existence of ufos. Ultimately, all I mean in my postings is that there isn't anything here to sway your average joe/jane. And that's what has to happen. Beyond that we are all considered a minority of kooks, regardless of our actual numbers. My closest friends listen to my ideas and look at what I find and its interesting to them but it doesn't make them think about it beyond another pop-culture past time. I guess we need to get better at what we do or may be I need to get better, I dunno. I didn't sign up to pee in someones cornflakes at my whim. I guess I just need more.
If I just come off as irritating and bitchy, I'm sorry, and I will withdraw. I just refuse to jump into a battle unarmed, especially against the government.

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Originally posted by Phillyharper
Im with you on this 11th dimention i really am. I think that the disclosure project have done great work, but have not spread their news as efficiently as is possible.

There is no harm in spreading these claims, none at all.

Why hasn't the Project done anything else to further it's cause? I'm all for spreading the word and getting the truth out there, but I think that if something like the project had the evidence that it says it does, then they would be beating dow the doors of every facet of the media, and gov't officials who will hear. How can this be 3 yrs old and still nothing? They have had this put together for 3 yrs and they have not made any progress. I think they should follow thru on that they started. If I had the inof, the evidence, the proof that they claim to have, I'd probably do some drastic things to get the attention needed. Fake a hostage situation. Perform a demonstration on the Whitehouse lawn. Find the public officials with the same views as they do and set up another press conference. There has to be more that THEY can do. Creating a website and chainmailing the video isn't the answer. If you could change the world forever, wouldn't you take some VERY drastic steps to do so? I think Dr Greer should be thinking in those terms instead of counting on the video to be deleted by someones spam blocker.