Ron Paul's Urgent Warning

reply to post by BirdOfillOmen

Notice how he doesn't sound robotic when he speaks. He obviously hasn't spent much time taking lessons on how to speak in front of a camera.

Gotta cry foul on this. He's been saying the same exact things on camera now for decades. A professional doesn't need to take lessons. Ron Paul gets more camera time than most politicians....look around ats.

Vids are everywhere. Every time he speaks, someone here makes a thread for it...and it's almost always the same exact thing he's said countless times before.

After listening to that.. I get a gut feeling he would turn around and make the government stronger and do the reverse of what he's saying.

I've not heard him say anything about cutting down the dept... nore anything about how the rich or well off will contribute to the dept...

With all his good graces.. I just keep seeing him as a Trojan horse..

reply to post by Karbofos


That day you describe sounds like the days described in Revelations. One that day, I do not vote... or I write in Ron Paul, or Snoopy.

I think most of the people we elect are good, if only they keep sight of a few human principles...
Like, Truth for one...

The buisness of politics is not an easy one...espescially when you realize that some truths, (in our society, anyway) can be used against you...and sometimes in ways we may agree to.

My heart goes out to all those in the political arena who struggle to maintain ethics amongst the surging tides of reason and agenda...

Here is a prayer/poem/meditation iv'e written with these people in mind...

A prayer for our Human Principles

Truth, let it touch us with light...
Shine upon the minds of the thinking...
Call out to the ears of builders, and guide us
to the fruition of being...

Love, let it nourish us in growth...
Bring union to houses divided...
Mend gardens careless feet have trampled,
and give aid to the unfortunate and discarded.

Courage, let it bring the desire we need;
To hear the truth when spoken...
Stand counted for compassion in creed, and be
a true vision of Humanity in motion...

"May we all find our well spring of Human Virtue...and walk the ways lit in Truth..."

I'd have to disagree, I dont think America has seen even a half-decent man in power since JFK, not to mention I believe America(like many countries) is that far gone that their votes dont even count.

Ron Paul should of been up for president before Obabma in the last election, but the zionists who rule over America didnt want that to happen, I really doubt they'll allow him to take the reigns next time around, although I hope he does.

Lets face it while the country is ruled by zionist bankers and friends there is no hope, the fed needs to go for a start.

reply to post by jude11


G'day.

I like a lot of what he says, but just a couple of questions for people who have actually read his manifesto.

He said that he wants to get rid of income tax, or did I hear that wrong?

What will he replace it with? If he doesn't replace it, how will roads get repaired, and how will the police and other public servants get paid? Does he want zero public services? Does he expect an army of people to give their time for nothing? I don't get how this will work. Will he just write off the debts owed to other countries?

Also, I've heard him say before that he doesn't believe in any kind of government health-care. So for absolute freedom, would you be prepared to become a zero compassion country.

I'm British and despise what my country has become, but I truly think that our health-care system is the thing we as a country should be most proud of, despite constant efforts by Conservative governments to destroy it.

I repeat, I like a lot of the stuff he says. I'm a bit of an armchair socialist libertarian at heart. If you've read some of his campaign literature and know what you're talking about, please fill me in on the details.

This is not an attack on Paul. I'm just curious as to whether he actually has a plan, or just rhetoric and ideology.

Cheers

Laze

Ron Paul is like John the Baptist. No one listened then, and unfortunately...no one is listening now. I'm just wondering...what is is going to take? Do you REALLY believe society can maintain this pace? Do you REALLY BELIEVE this can keep going? They BARELY have enough money to pay out S.S. checks, now. Do you REALLY BELIEVE they will have the money to mail out those "retirement" checks...20 years from now? Martial law would be the least of my worries. Feeding my family is my greatest concern. Forget about oil running out...we better start thinking about the food supply running out. Can't happen, right? It MOST CERTAINLY CAN and HAS!

When SHTF....you can't eat money!

Oh, and...if we keep going at this pace....we can kiss the most important thing on this planet....goodbye...and that would be WATER. Hmmm, sounds to me like we need to start taking better care of: 1) the planet and 2) our neighbors. If not, well.....you imagine!

Originally posted by Haxsaw
I'd have to disagree, I dont think America has seen even a half-decent man in power since JFK, not to mention I believe America(like many countries) is that far gone that their votes dont even count.

Ron Paul should of been up for president before Obabma in the last election, but the zionists who rule over America didnt want that to happen, I really doubt they'll allow him to take the reigns next time around, although I hope he does.

Lets face it while the country is ruled by zionist bankers and friends there is no hope, the fed needs to go for a start.

Bingo.

Oh and, Income tax is unconstitutional.

Originally posted by Maskirovka
Call me a defeatist or a pessimist, or whatever, but unfortunately I don't think Paul stands much chance in 2012. He speaks much common sense, but his proposals are far too radical, too different to what US voters are used to. He is not, for want of a better word, 'mainstream' enough to reach a majority. He doesn't spew slogans, regurgitate well known political cliches, or come across as the type of guy who might think about starting some wars here and there - in other words, he is just not presidential. I get the sad feeling, however, that in years to come he'll be the guy that people think about and wonder why the hell no one listened to him.

I got a slogan for him if he wants it instead of yes we can he could use NO we WILL. because sure we can do anything but will we.

reply to post by kro32

I am all for the Constitution but Paul isn't. The Constitution was written to give the Federal Government more power since the Articles of Confederation was giving it all to the States and the Federal Government had no authority over them. Paul want's to go back to the States trumping federal law.

Wow just when you think you can't read anything more asinine you run across an ignorant and beyond stupid statement like this...

The States do trump federal law. Federal law as in the Constitution was written to restrain the federal government and does not apply to the several states or the people.

"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government -- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."
-- Patrick Henry

The several states created the union and the constitution. The creation is not the boss of it's creator. The union created by the several states was created for mutual defense and free trade period. There are only 17 enumerated powers delegated to the federal governments period and they pertain to the federal governments duties not to the states or the people. That is why in order to change the constitution a super majority of states must agree to it via the ratification process.

If one actually studied history they would see the federal government operates almost completely outside its scope and completely ignores the constitution in so doing. The sovereign states never gave up thier sovereignty and if there was any hint of that they never would have signed on to the constitution.

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." - Ninth Amendment

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." - Tenth Amendment

Originally posted by Willbert
After listening to that.. I get a gut feeling he would turn around and make the government stronger and do the reverse of what he's saying.

I've not heard him say anything about cutting down the dept... nore anything about how the rich or well off will contribute to the dept...

With all his good graces.. I just keep seeing him as a Trojan horse..

trojan horses usually dont have opposition but if he was maybe he would still be the most usefull tool of all americans are sick and tired of being lied to as I hear it so much so yes he could do good or he could be the straw that breaks the cammels back and everyone wakes up either way sounds like a positive. At least if he is elected you have a chance of him showing you his convictions as he has for years to the people who watch the c span etc.... If you haven't heard him talk about the debt you have not heard him talk as he talks about it all the time.

OMG! S hits the fan!
Listen to what he says.
he is telling us it is coming Very soon.
Stock up on Every Thing Now!!!!
and hit it in many places. bury it.
under the bath is a good place to.
I am ready!
you better get ready Now!

I have to admit, the more I hear from Ron Paul the more sceptical I'm getting.

Dont get me wrong, everything he says makes sense.
But, to the degree that it comes across like he has been trawling through ATS threads for subject matter...you know what I mean? He's hitting the nail too squarely on the head.

I just think that if he does get elected, how will he keep his promises?
Obama promised to bring back the troops etc etc-and failed but the sheer scale of what Ron Paul is saying is just insurmountable.

Is he making promises that are impossible to keep?
Imagine if he did start implimenting the things he's talking about, how many powerful noses will be put out of joint, then how long before someone snuffs him out?

I dont know, my gut is saying 'too good to be true' but at the same time at least someone in the politcal arena is talking sense!

Hi,

Ron Poul surely seems like a nice man.

I hope the best for my brothers and sisters in the U.S. and I trust and hope they do the same for me.

Thanks,

reply to post by jude11
We Need Ron Paul as President, its just that simple.

All i want to say to you Americans:

Good luck getting this guy in office and if/when he gets there, good luck keeping him there (alive) as he goes against the globalists' agenda.

I surely hope this modern-day JFK WILL get to do his job in the way he wants to, it's not just the USA that needs solid leadership in the white house, the entire world would be better off with it.

So all posters of this thread (excluding previous post) believe the president makes the decisions? You think if RP was elected president he could do what ever he wants?
I can imagine him in the oval office, newly elected and wondering where to start and then the real decision makers walk in...........

I love Ron Paul and I am not even American. Please please America if you don't want him send him to the UK and we will try and make him our leader.

Edit to add: If Ron Paul makes it anywhere near the Whitehouse he will die, because all the three letter agencies you have will want him dead along with just about every multinational company and billionare.

Its sorry to say that Ron Paul has signed his own death warrant and delcared himself enemy of the state. I so hope he can be president and that he backs up everything he says with actions but somehow I think he will not make it.

So far i havent seen better candidates there.

We have almost same problem in Denmark, allthou we dont have a president. All options goes in the same direction here, because theres no significant diffrencies in how the diffrent parties approach a problem.

If RP gets elected he sure got some large issues solve. 14 trillion and still growing.

If I was an american I'd vote for Ron Paul , this guy knows what he is talking about , and he only seems to have the interests of the people and the liberties and freedoms of every american at heart.

Again in one day I'll quote JFK to the Americans on ATS

"ask not what your country can do for you , but what you can do for it "

or to provide Ron Paul with a winning campaign quote
"ask not what Ron Paul can do for America , but what America can do for Ron Paul"

give him your vote , and see how puts his plan into action and saves not just Americas ass, but the worlds , because if the American economy is good , we are all good !

My favourite part about his speach was changing the foreing policy , way to go Ron , your a legend in my book