Comet Elenin, Take a look at this, More to Consider.

reply to post by soleo

I was not referring to the colored spirals, but to the green background image that takes up most of the bill.

Let's look at both sides of the note, then you tell me what you think it might possibly be:
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A magnetosphere with eyes?

reply to post by DJW001


Nope. Hoewever, if you have the abilitation to post pics, why don't you post the top pic in your post flipped by 180 degrees, and my linked image of the magnetosphere one above the other? Then it will be more than evident what I am referring to.

reply to post by sechmet

I do have some (scientific knowledge), my friends have some too.

But not enough, it seems, to understand what you are reading.

However, I am willing to bet a small sum that your first language is French or Chinese, not English, so perhaps your comprehension problems are linguistic, not scientific. Am I correct?

I wish someone with knowledge would look at this website and tell be from the graft what the 2 numbers on the Elenin one are, they are so different then any other comets listed...I can't find info anywhere.


www.minorplanetcenter.net... ... middle of page or use find on browser for Elenin.

Designation (and name) R.A. Decl. Geo. Hel. Elong Pha. m1
C/2010 X1 (Elenin) 11 13.87 +03 38.8 1.593 1.157 46.4 39.5 11.6

Odd # Hel. 1.593 Pha.(Potentialy Hazerdous Asteroid) 39.5

On this website i can see that Elenin has 2 numbers very different then others The Hel. and the Pha.
I can't find out what hel means and Pha. is normal Potentially Hazardous Asteroid but it is not all caps and i am not sure if thats the meaning on ths sight.

Originally posted by Char-Lee
I wish someone with knowledge would look at this website and tell be from the graft what the 2 numbers on the Elenin one are, they are so different then any other comets listed...I can't find info anywhere.


www.minorplanetcenter.net... ... middle of page or use find on browser for Elenin.

Designation (and name) R.A. Decl. Geo. Hel. Elong Pha. m1
C/2010 X1 (Elenin) 11 13.87 +03 38.8 1.593 1.157 46.4 39.5 11.6

Odd # Hel. 1.593 Pha.(Potentialy Hazerdous Asteroid) 39.5

On this website i can see that Elenin has 2 numbers very different then others The Hel. and the Pha.
I can't find out what hel means and Pha. is normal Potentially Hazardous Asteroid but it is not all caps and i am not sure if thats the meaning on ths sight.

Hel is the heliocentric distance (the distance between the comet and the Sun in AU). Geo is the geocentric distance (the distance between the comet and the Earth). Pha is the phase angle, which is the angle between the Sun, Earth, and comet.

I cant analyze this at all but its yet another mention of 2007 when they were taking Infared Photographs in space. Also I'm sure we've all seen that big censor block on google.

This discusses elenin's supposedly elenin anyway, huge magnetic field, and the effects it made on Saturn, super storms.

The videos on Alien Skies, that went into historical archetypes used around the planet for electrical discharge plasma shapes that are duplicated in experiments, that was very interesting.

The 3 planets they focused on throughout history and Lined Them Up, showing plasma created via electrical discharges were: Saturn, Venus and Mars.

I suspect those 3 planets are a key, in observation. We need to observe what relates to them, and also warnings written in history, put out in the open about planetary allignments.

www.scribd.com...

reply to post by Unity_99

I cant analyze this at all but its yet another mention of 2007 when they were taking Infared Photographs in space. Also I'm sure we've all seen that big censor block on google.

Which we all know is one of many, many missing bits and pieces and stitching errors on Google.

This discusses elenin's supposedly elenin anyway, huge magnetic field, and the effects it made on Saturn, super storms.

You mean the super-storms on Saturn that occur roughly every thirty years as the northern hemisphere warms up in the summer?

The videos on Alien Skies, that went into historical archetypes used around the planet for electrical discharge plasma shapes that are duplicated in experiments, that was very interesting.

I'm not sure what that word salad is supposed to mean.

The 3 planets they focused on throughout history and Lined Them Up, showing plasma created via electrical discharges were: Saturn, Venus and Mars.

Somehow skipping Jupiter, which has an electromagnetic field so intense that it actually does interact with the Sun.

I suspect those 3 planets are a key, in observation. We need to observe what relates to them, and also warnings written in history, put out in the open about planetary allignments.

This has been done for millenia. It is called "astrology." It is a pseudo-science.

Hello, new to this forum and cant make new threads yet. Was looking for some help with this photo of Elenin.


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I know object c in the photo is Elenin, but what are A and B? Are they part of the cluster? Stars in background? Thanks.

reply to post by jvgkaty

I know object c in the photo is Elenin, but what are A and B? Are they part of the cluster? Stars in background? Thanks.

If the source for this photograph does not identify them, they are almost certainly background stars.

Originally posted by pazcat

Originally posted by Unity_99
The French Franc Note

It's not a French bank note.
Nice try though. Next time try reading the blog that you're posting, it does actually tell you where the bank note is from.

edit on 24-7-2011 by pazcat because: (no reason given)

Thank you... as you point out, the note is Swiss, not French.

It was designed by Ernst Hiestand and Ursula Hiestand. The note has dimensions of 137 millimeters in width by 66 millimeters in height. It is predominantly colored red-brown or red. The obverse displays Leonhard Euler, Swiss scientist, along with the value. Its reverse displays a water turbine, the solar system, and a display of rays of light passing through lenses along with the value. These notes were recalled during 2000 and will be considered worthless in 2020.[3]

Source

Originally posted by nataylor

Originally posted by Char-Lee
I wish someone with knowledge would look at this website and tell be from the graft what the 2 numbers on the Elenin one are, they are so different then any other comets listed...I can't find info anywhere.


www.minorplanetcenter.net... ... middle of page or use find on browser for Elenin.

Designation (and name) R.A. Decl. Geo. Hel. Elong Pha. m1
C/2010 X1 (Elenin) 11 13.87 +03 38.8 1.593 1.157 46.4 39.5 11.6

Odd # Hel. 1.593 Pha.(Potentialy Hazerdous Asteroid) 39.5

On this website i can see that Elenin has 2 numbers very different then others The Hel. and the Pha.
I can't find out what hel means and Pha. is normal Potentially Hazardous Asteroid but it is not all caps and i am not sure if thats the meaning on ths sight.

Hel is the heliocentric distance (the distance between the comet and the Sun in AU). Geo is the geocentric distance (the distance between the comet and the Earth). Pha is the phase angle, which is the angle between the Sun, Earth, and comet.

Thank you been so long no answer! If you get a chance could you look at the page and tell my why the numbers for Elenin are so different then all those others? Thank you

Originally posted by Char-Lee
Thank you been so long no answer! If you get a chance could you look at the page and tell my why the numbers for Elenin are so different then all those others? Thank you

Well, most comets have relatively long periods, so they spend most of their time far outside the inner solar system. That means their heliocentric distance will be relatively high most of the time. Elenin is on its way into the inner solar right now, so that's why its heliocentric is low (and will continue to get lower until its closest pass to the Sun on September 10th).

The phase angle is also going to be dependent on the distance of the comet. If the comet is really far out, the maximum phase angle is going to be pretty small. The Earth orbits the Sun at a distance of 1 AU. That's the farthest the Earth can get from the Sun. Now imagine the comet is 50 AU away. The angle between the Sun, comet, and Earth is going to be pretty small. As that comet gets closer, the maximum phase angle increases, eventually reaching nearly 180° when the comet is between the Sun and Earth. So Elenin's phase angle is high because it's on it's way into the inner solar system.

You'll see on that web page that, in general, the lower the heliocentric distance is, the higher the phase angle is.

This news item seems relevant to this topic and thread "Evidence found for unseen comet that may threaten Earth " from MSNBC July 27/11

www.msnbc.msn.com...

Originally posted by nataylor

Originally posted by Char-Lee
Thank you been so long no answer! If you get a chance could you look at the page and tell my why the numbers for Elenin are so different then all those others? Thank you

Well, most comets have relatively long periods, so they spend most of their time far outside the inner solar system. That means their heliocentric distance will be relatively high most of the time. Elenin is on its way into the inner solar right now, so that's why its heliocentric is low (and will continue to get lower until its closest pass to the Sun on September 10th).

The phase angle is also going to be dependent on the distance of the comet. If the comet is really far out, the maximum phase angle is going to be pretty small. The Earth orbits the Sun at a distance of 1 AU. That's the farthest the Earth can get from the Sun. Now imagine the comet is 50 AU away. The angle between the Sun, comet, and Earth is going to be pretty small. As that comet gets closer, the maximum phase angle increases, eventually reaching nearly 180° when the comet is between the Sun and Earth. So Elenin's phase angle is high because it's on it's way into the inner solar system.

You'll see on that web page that, in general, the lower the heliocentric distance is, the higher the phase angle is.

edit on 27-7-2011 by nataylor because: (no reason given)

Thanks a ton for that info. I really appriciate it.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by Gorman91

 

I'm not sure what you're talking about, as my research has not gone into reading numerous scientific papers, I like them made understandable.

This is what I'm talking about:

science.nasa.gov...

Everything is connected. Thats like the main line, sun to earth. ...

There is no functional connection between the Sun and Earth -- no "give and take". The Sun simply supplies photons into space in general. The Earth just happens to be in the way; the Sun would pump those photons in this direction whether the Earth was here or not.

Sure, the Earth has a magnetic field that somewhat protects us from the Sun, but the Sun doesn't care, or even notice, that the Earth has this shield. The magnetic field of the Earth does not change what the Sun itself is doing. It only changes how the Sun's energy affects us.

Originally posted by Unity_99
I cant analyze this at all but its yet another mention of 2007 when they were taking Infared Photographs in space. Also I'm sure we've all seen that big censor block on google...

Which black block on Google is that? There isn't just one, but rather there are many, many black-box areas on Google, most of which (if not all of which) probably have nothing to do with censorship and everything to do with missing data.

Originally posted by soleo
reply to post by DJW001

 

I was not referring to the colored spirals, but to the green background image that takes up most of the bill.

It looks very reminiscent one of her famous "Dada Heads" (although turned sideways).


EDIT TO ADD:
It's one of her sculptures unofficially called "Dada Head, Portrait of Hans [or Jean] Arp", created in 1918. Officially, it is untitled.

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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
Let's just stop all of this nonsense right now. To quote James McCanney, one of the foremost proponents of EU theory:

Comet Elenin IS NOT A THREAT to earth ...let me make it perfectly clear that Comet Elenin is a small comet that will likely not be even seen by most people since it is so small and far away ... someone (group) is spending a lot of time and money to make a major issue out of a complete non-issue

Ah, EU, The Elenintards saving grace.
OMG ITS A BROWN DWARF (learns it isn't) OMG ITS THE ELECTRIC UNIVERSE!

Funny how we've witnessed no other comets discharge electricity on any planet and yet THIS IS THE ONE.

Grow up, feeble and childish minds.

Originally posted by Unity_99

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Unity_99

 

If this is based off the electric universe theory, and the comet can cause earthquakes at this range, why isn't the sun splitting us in half?

Either the electric universe theory is wrong, or Elenin is simply a pebble in space doing nothing. Choose wisely.

The sun doesnt split us in half, it has magnetic portals that exchange particles with earth. Comets change or discharge, with differences from extreme outer areas to inner. Do you know the date of when Elenin will be closet to the sun, its perihilion? 9/11, the 19th anniversary of 9/11, and the name of this comet is a pun on 9/11. Please pay attention.

The thread that beat me to it should be written on instead of this one by the way.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Electric Comets, Comet Elenin, Electric Universe Theory, Is NASA Lie Us For Comets

Correct me if I am wrong, but this is the 10th anniversary, not the 19th, of what happened September 11th, 2001.

You tell US to pay attention, yet YOU aren't paying attention?

To me, in the OP's link, it looks like Saturn (and it's electromagnetic storm, so to speak) is an edited photo. Look how perfectly straight the rings are that run across the planet. I'm not so sure any satellite image would portray the planet so perfect and lined up properly like that.