Christina Forces Owen To Marry Her (Disturbing Video)

That's one way to # up your kids...

ATSers:

a. not sure if trolling (OPTION UNAVAILABLE)

b. [or] serious



who's really the trolls? the OPs, or the people who only take you seriously so they can stomp/debunk your ideas.

also, so were all clear here, everyone needs to get a sense of humor.

Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
Here is what a psychologist has been studying in this field.

Nora Newcombe, a psychologist at Temple University in Philadelphia, recently tested the ability of 11-year-olds to recognize pictures of former classmates from their preschool years. She showed them a series of pictures of 3- and 4-year-old children, including some images of children they knew seven years earlier. Most 11-year-olds claimed not to recognize any of their former classmates. But when Newcombe wired up their hands to measure sweating — also called a galvanic skin response — the children showed biological signs of remembering the faces of those with whom they'd attended preschool. As they looked at pictures of children they had never known, the instrument measured no sweating responses. "It was like an unconscious emotional memory existed even when there is no conscious memory," says Newcombe

So if these kids are younger than that (which they appear to be) will not remember this as this is not a traumatic incident in his life. It is just a little fun being had by his mother.So you see the memory part of a brain is still not fully functioning to the point that this incident will scar him later in life. This is not trauma this is joking around for a laugh.

Uh..... you did read what you quoted up there, didn't you??
It was proven that there was biological response, there were subconscious memories, that were effecting their physiological reactions.

What does that tell you? It tells me that much of my reactions to the world (my emotions, my physiological states) are influenced by early experiences that I do not even consciously remember, so cannot even recognize when they are motivating my responses now! That shows just how important the early experiences are in forming who we are now, and how terribly difficult it is for the conscious awareness to find them and change them!

reply to post by tsurfer2000h


I do not find it disturbing. I live in a country where the breast is commonly percieved as having more functions than sexual, and breast feeding is considered beautiful and touching and is not hidden in public at all. (they are not covered at the beach either). Kids watch mothers breast feeding in public and listen to their parents tell them, aw...look, isn't it beautiful the mommy feeding the baby??? -yet there is less teen pregnancy than in the US each year.

I can see how americans could feel shocked, since the breast as a sex organ has been blown to such great proportions, the view of it tends to be associated with sex, and breast feeding must stay discrete. But I doubt that it would make the teen pregnancy problem bigger than it already is. Taboos create exactly what they try to avoid.

reply to post by shagreen heart


I can speak for myself at least- I am taking it seriously and I am not trolling just to "stomp" his ideas.

The concern of many men in certain modern societies that marriage is used as a trap for them, to limit their freedom and place difficult responsibility on their shoulders,
and that women use sex as a bartering and manipulative tool in acheiving this "trap",

is not very funny to me and I don't feel like making fun of him, nor stomping him and his concerns! They probably effect his life and his relationships, and not always in beneficial ways.

OH NOES THE INTERWEBZ ARE FULL OF CONSPIRACIES!

But seriously, do you really understand developmental psychology at all? Babies, whether it be children or animals emulate their parents. They have pretend sex, they have pretend fights, they learn how to live. In all honesty I would PROMOTE the idea of marriage, considering how high the divorce rate is. "Billy, getting married is a wonderful thing that two loving adults share. Yes, there will be fights, yes, you'll have to let her have her way sometimes."

This woman isn't abusing her child. You obviously have no clue what abuse is. Abuse is beating your children for the tiniest infraction. Abuse is telling them that no one will want them when they grow up and that they will never be anything. Abuse is touching them in their 'no-no' spots rather than showing them that is something sacred. Abuse is NOT letting them fight with each other over playing 'house'.

If you want to champion a cause, there are plenty out there. Don't over analyze something that was never there from the beginning. All this does is make you look like you just finished up a Intro to Psychology course at your local community college, or you are some feminist-nazi type.

Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
Some people may see this video as funny, if this is you i recommend you read my post and then watch the video again.

There are so many things i see wrong with this video. As i am writing this i hear the video playing in the background (but i can not see it) and i feel worse about the video than when i first thought to write this thread.

This is a mother, her son Owen and the girl (Christina) is a family friend. I'm no expert on ages but i would say the children are between the ages of four and six. The mother of the boy is filming (she is never shown) and at the 1:50 mark a male voice can be heard approaching and asking "Whats the problem" (i can only assume this is the boys father) but he is never shown either.

Now as i said earlier i see multiple things wrong with this video so let's get right to it.

1) Why won't Owens mother stop this instead of filming? I spend a good amount of time online (when i can) and i watch a lot of videos and i've noticed a trend. It seems as if in every video there are at least three other people standing around with their phones in their hands recording too. Fights, accidents, arguments, Police incidents, EVERYTHING. With the invention of YouTube and other video websites and the advent of videos going "Viral" peoples only course of action when something happens is to record it. Does anyone HELP anymore?

2) Why are these young children having this argument? As i stated earlier, i am no age expert but i'll put my money on these children being between four and six years old. Granted they could have seen a MOVIE or seen a TELEVISION show (programming anyone?) where a princess got married, the proper course of action (imho) would be to say: "Marriage is something grown-ups do when they are in love with each other and they want to start a family", "After you finish school and you get big like mommy/daddy, if you fall in love you might get married too".

These children are having an all out screaming match. If they were twenty years older the police could very well have been called during this argument. If they were twenty years older and having this EXACT same argument (word for word) in front of children their age and it was recorded, that video could be grounds for those children being taken away.

3) Why is this woman training another persons young daughter that she needs to be married? Christina's parents are clearly not around. If you watch the video no other person is looked at or spoken to until the 1:50 mark when the "alleged" husband of the woman/father of Owen comes to ask "whats the problem". If you were watching a child of mine (daycare/school/babysitting) i would not want you teaching my child certain things (especially about God, sex or marriage). People have varying opines and i would rather you consult me first.

The very first words in the video are of distraught young Owen asking his mother "mom, why did you tell her that" leading me to believe that this whole conversation was at the suggestion of the mother. Little Christina then hides behind the cabinet and smiles as the camera woman asks if she wants to marry little Owen, when Christina say yes the mother/camerawoman tells her to tell Owen.

4) Are women trained to act a certain way since birth? We see how this grown woman is promoting this whole situation.

A) You can hear her laughing
B)When the (alleged) husband inquires she replies "i had to"
C) SHE IS FILMING INSTEAD OF INTERVENING

Notice how determined little Christina is to get married at such a young age. I highly doubt she even understands what marriage is!! All Christina knows is it is something she is "supposed" to do. She is also being trained (at such a young age) that boy don't want to get married so she has to force or trick them into it. Notice at the 1:11 mark Christina says "When you ask for some candy at my house i'm gonna say NO!". I actually gasped out loud at that part, she will only give him "candy" if he marries her

Notice how Christina is acting during this argument. She is constantly cleaning, wiping off Owens seat and even sweeping the floor!! She is constantly demanding Owen "look at me" while she is talking and smiling and laughing with her "girlfriend" while she tortures the boy.

5) Are men the same since birth? Maybe i'm biased because i'm a man

All little owen want to do is be friends with Christina and eat some of her candy. He doesn't want to get married. When he gets mad at Christina he doesn't want anything to do with her (let alone get married to her). His first reaction is to turn/run away from her. When little Owen gets older and his hormones get to work will he "give in" to Christinas demands? When the (alleged) husband (quietly) asks "whats the problem" i sense that he made eye contact with his wife and most likely did the hand sign "WHY" at which she laughs and responds "i had to". You never hear from him again. Is it possible he decided to just shut up and give in because he wants some "candy" his self?

Ahhh yes the Power of the "candy".

Thankfully in my day which I was this age. The early 80's. Most girls didn't realize the power of the "candy" till they were about 16-18.

So some of us young guys got lots of "candy" for free for many years between the ages of 13-17.

Some of us even got "candy" and money. Ahh the good old days when "candy" was free. I call it "The years of plenty".

reply to post by Tripple_Helix

Did you just not read that part of your quote?

Yes but you need to follow the link and read the rest of the article.
This was only part of it.

LOL! There was once a time when the candy would have been heard as a metaphor for "food", or "comfort", (what women offer in exchange and for barter in some cultures) rather than "sex"!
Funny how what women have to offer and bring to a relationship has changed, huh?
No one at all finds that disturbing to see in their society and themselves, as they made that automatic connection???

The mother breast feeding her baby (giving food and comfort) is disturbing,
The woman who gives sex is.... normal, not worth making a big deal about, get over it, that's what they are "supposed" to do.....????

reply to post by ProphecyPhD


This is a sick video. While the "marriage" question is an issue, I am concerned that the little girl is both demanding, arrogant and acting like a little bitch, and is allowed to act that way. You are right that if this was a shouting match between grown ups, it would be domestic abuse. The little girl is allowed to embarrass and harass the young boy without intervention, in fact, was found amusing. Had this been the other way around, the little boy doing what the little girl is doing, he would be labeled an abuser and a bully.

Shame on this woman who video taped this, laughed at it, and failed to see the emotional trauma is was causing her own son.

reply to post by Bluesma

I can see how americans could feel shocked, since the breast as a sex organ has been blown to such great proportions, the view of it tends to be associated with sex, and breast feeding must stay discrete.

Honestly, I don't care either way about the video I was using it as something that the OP could use as a thread about disturbing things instead of what was used. I don't have a right to judge anyone on how they want to raise their kids whether I agree with it or not.I mean honestly you can learn anything you want to learn thru tv and the internet so it is hard to shield your kids from anything nowadays.To me breastfeeding is a natural thing that happens.You just don't see it in public very often, so that is why people freak out about it here in America.

reply to post by ProphecyPhD


I must be one of the minority who doesnt find this amusing. Poor lad is upset, I would never have upset my son like that at that same age, and for what? For the sake of taking a vid and getting it uploaded so thousands of people can LOL at him?

There are much funnier things that kids do to film...this aint one of them

reply to post by tsurfer2000h


Videos of your kids committing a crime is not funny. Look at the bigger picture of the video of the boy and girl. In real grown up life this would be considered domestic abuse. The girl is a bully, and a miniature bitch. Reverse this, and the boy could be considered an abuser.

I do see something wrong with how most comments in here think this is funny and/or think that emotional abuse is something kids get over very quickly.

This video is disturbing but, the comments are even more so. I don't think any of you that think there is nothing wrong with this would allow this to happen to your own kids, cousins, ect without getting really pissed off and doing something to prevent it from happening again.

The fact that the little girl acts like an adult is a clear sign that child abuse is going on in this household. The fact that the little boy has to become emotionally distressed in his own home while his mother instigates and enjoys it, is another form of child abuse called emotional abuse, It may be slight but, the abuse is there.

The thoughts that come to my mind is what else is going on in this home other than what we just viewed.

I dont think something like this can be dismissed as another "oh, nothing here to see, move along" scenario.

Needless to say, this will probably go viral if it hasn't already and we will probably see the parents getting a slap on the wrist in public view because we all know how TPTB are.

On another note: it seems that someone out there doesnt like us ATS'ers from a comment I seen from that video on youtube.

reply to post by ProphecyPhD

The only thing more disturbing then the video is the responces you are getting that there is nothing wrong with what is happening here.A child crying and screaming while being perched on a chair like something to be abused........................................WOW,this goes a long way to insight as to what is wrong with some people these days.The responces are very telling as to why so manny children are being abused ..........................sad,very sad!!

I have to stop here or the mods will have a field day with me.

reply to post by Natasliah


"You obviously have no clue what abuse is"...............I'm not sure you do either. That clearly qualifies as emotional abuse to her son, and to the girl for allowing her to act out in that manner.

reply to post by ProphecyPhD


I agree with you and your five points.

For all the retards that don't see a problem with that video, you need to open your eyes.

For the people that see nothing wrong with this video, maybe you should not be raising kids and you should see a doctor. but we live in a world that is driven by retarded people that video this crap and the idoits that watch it and see nothing wrong with this. And for the parent(or moron in this video) , who was laughing, i cant wait for in 20 years for your son to grow up and act this way and than you are going to yell at him and/or neighbors are going to call the cops and your son gets locked up in jail. HOW FUNNY IS THAT !!!!!!.....................I am finally laughing now(at the video) and your not....Birth control was made for people who think that video was funny and harmless and for the crackheads who take the video........

reply to post by ProphecyPhD


you dont need a psych major to back you up, you just need to take a f-ckin chill pill. that video was adorable. I have a brother about his age and kids yell. obviously the mother isnt going to drive them to vegas and hitch em! it was a bit of harmless fun!

this is the same bullsh-t that the pictures of the ceo mom painting her sons nails pink. taking something small and making it into something terrible. i havent read all the pages of replys, but come on, what is your problem that you have to destroy something that will probably be a cherished family memory for years to come.

I remember being about that age and having a "girl friend" and my aunts telling me to kiss her, but, at that time, girls had cooties so i threw a fit. i was a child! but even to this day whenever that girl comes up or when we see her around town we always remember that time.

so chill the f-ck out, maybe stop watching so much Fox News and enjoy the video for what it is, an adorable family memory we were invited to watch.

Originally posted by mnmcandiez
Talk about overreacting. It may be immature of the adult but it surely isn't gonna give the kid PTSD.

I wouldn't be so sure. The boy seems quite upset. Something tells me that he has been told to stay on the seat... while this little girl harasses him about something he obviously doesn't feel comfortable with. Yes, you may say that we're overreacting to this but things happened to me in my childhood that may have seemed funny to others, yet messes with my mind in the present day. I have PTSD and it was all caused by my mother and her abusive tendencies. I suppose the phrase "One's perception is one's reality" comes into play here.
Anyone second this?

reply to post by mac420


Adorable? How? That the little girl is demanding, arrogant and bitchy? That the little boy is screaming his head off and appears helpless? That his own mother is laughing at his distress? That his father, or whomever the male was in the background, failed to stop this disaster? Since when is bullying adorable? Please help me out, what is "adorable" about this video?