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Electric Comets, Comet Elenin, Electric Universe Theory, Is NASA Lie Us For Comets

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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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If I remember correctly, Omerbashich describes a "long alignment" as occurring over the period of at least three days. Now if we look at the average number number of 6.0+ earthquakes in a year we see that about 150 occur. This means that on average a 6.0+ earthquake occurs once every 2.5 days. So, if Omerbashich is only looking at alignments that last three days probability alone states that a 6.0+ earthquake will occur during that time period. It has nothing to do with alignments.


You can't get it more wrong than this. The good Dr. obviously talks about just one (peak) earthquake per alignment, the others are there to follow the precise pattern of increase-peaking-decrease.

Talking about vindication... and uneducated trolls

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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:07 AM
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Frankly, when I see "NASA lies to us" in the second line of the OP, I cringe.

...along with "99% matter is plasma". Well, duh. So what?



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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I think predicting no earthquakes over mag 6 for two weeks period in August regardless if it is the beginning, middle, end or combination of two is a successful prediction when talking of earthquakes.

You are proving one thing DJW. You are proving that it's very hard to teach an old dog new tricks.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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That's the most ridiculous thing you have said yet.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:35 AM
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Then no earthquakes in two weeks is an anomaly.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:38 AM
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When all logical arguments fail and you don't have a leg to stand, its time to SHOOT THE MESSENGER by attempting to discredit instead of presenting information that provides evidence for your case.

Right out of the liberal play book.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:38 AM
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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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It seems not just Dr. Omerbashich's brilliant theory but also astrology as a science has just been vindicated by Dr. Zanette. He really is a "big shot" in physics world.

Something big is cooking up. Interesting timez



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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Nasa is government. Government is made of liars and cover stories. Nasa said there was no water on the moon for nearly 50 years. They went there, took samples of the regolith and said there was no water in it. Now just recently, they say the moon may have more water than the Earth and the regolith is full of water. Do you really think they didn't know that from the elementary moisture calculations performed during Apollo. Don't be naive, its not flattering.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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I'm telling you Dr. Zanette is making fun of Omerbashich. I thought that was immediately obvious when he listed his affiliation as The Patagonia Royal Society in his paper. Also, astronomy and astrophysics isn't even Zanette's field of research. From what I can find of his published papers he looks more at language and population than anything else.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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I'm telling you Dr. Zanette is making fun of Omerbashich. I thought that was immediately obvious when he listed his affiliation as The Patagonia Royal Society in his paper. Also, astronomy and astrophysics isn't even Zanette's field of research. From what I can find of his published papers he looks more at language and population than anything else.


Publishing a paper in arxiv where you can't take a paper out once you put it in doesn't seem like a way to ridicule a colleague. Especially because he doesn't ridicule explicitly. But your feeling sounds nice as a conspiracy theory.

No, Zanette could have chosen one of infinitely many ways to ridicule someone, like putting a paper on his own website where he can take it down whenever. Why do it permanently and only implicitly? I mean nowhere in the paper does Dr. Zanette say that "Dr. Omerbashich is wrong", "has no idea what he is talking about", "incorrect georesonance theory" etc. Quite the contrary, he's being quite clear in explicitly saying that Dr. Omerbashich GEORESONANCE theory is correct. Have you seen those equations btw? Marvelous!

Actually, I have a feeling that Dr. Zanette has just vindicated astrology as a science too, not just Dr. Omerbashich's theory. But your blindness wouldn't let you read his words for what the man says, but for what YOU BELIEVE astrology "is". or rather what government has been telling you through controlled education since you were kid.

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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by consciousgod
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Nasa is government. Government is made of liars and cover stories. Nasa said there was no water on the moon for nearly 50 years. They went there, took samples of the regolith and said there was no water in it. Now just recently, they say the moon may have more water than the Earth and the regolith is full of water. Do you really think they didn't know that from the elementary moisture calculations performed during Apollo. Don't be naive, its not flattering.


Exactly. Take the moon landing for example. Here's what Dr. Omerbashich has to say about them: (sorry about caps, I'm just pasting the man's words:

"YEP, IT WAS NASA (AND THAT ENTIRE MILITARY COMPLEX GANG) WHO ACTUALLY FUELED ALL THE FEAR IN THE PAST DECADES THROUGH HOLLYWOOD AND THEIR DISASTER MOVIES, AS WELL AS FORERUNNER MASONS LIKE HOAGLAND ETC. BECAUSE, HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY THE EXISTENCE OF A STUPID AGENCY SUCH AS NASA (YOU DON'T REALLY NEED DOZENS OF AGENCIES, AS ONE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR DATA COLLECTION BUSINESS, ON AND INSIDE THE EARTH, AS WELL AS IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM)? YOU FIRST CREATE A PROBLEM, AND THEN YOU RIDE IN ON A WHITE HORSE TO "SOLVE" THE PROBLEM THAT NEVER WAS. LIKE IN OLD WESTERNS WITH JOHN WAYNE, WHEN THE CAVALRY ARRIVES, ALAS ALWAYS AFTER THE INDIANS SCALPED EVERYONE... IT IS CLEAR THAT NASA HAS ALREADY BECOME INFAMOUS FOR ITS ROLE IN CLIMATEGATE ALONE, NOT TO MENTION THE BULL# CALLED "MOON LANDING" (YES I CAN PROVE IT. AND YES 10s OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO WORKED ON THE PROJECT WERE EASILY TRICKED JUST AS WITH ANY COMPARTMENTALIZATION THAT ALWAYS GET NATURALLY LESS OBVIOUS AS MORE PEOPLE GET INVOLVED. AND NO ASTRONAUTS DID NOT SET UP PRISMS ON THE MOON FOR LUNAR LASER RANGING, SINCE THE "PRISMS" ARE SIMPLE MIRROR-REFLECTORS GLUED EVERYWHERE AROUND A BALL WHICH THEN CAN BE DROPPED BY AN AUTOMATED MISSION AND STILL NEVER REQUIRE ANY SETUP BY HUMANS; IN WHATEVER POSITION THE BALL STAYS AS IT IS ROLLED -- YOU CAN SHOOT A LASER BEAM FROM THE EARTH AND ALWAYS HIT A "PRISM"! AND NO JUST BECAUSE ROCK SAMPLES "FROM THE MOON" AND THE EARTH LOOK THE SAME IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE MOON AND THE EARTH WERE ONE WHOLE IN THE PAST: IT MEANS NO ONE HAS EVER GONE TO THE MOON IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND THE ROCKS LOOK THE SAME BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME AND ARE REALLY FROM THE EARTH -- LIKELY EXCAVATED FROM WHERE SUN SHINES NOT OR/AND MICROWAVED TO KILL TRACES OF LIFE BEFORE HAVING BEEN PRESENTED TO GROWNUP NERDS AKA MICKEY MOUSE (NASA) SCIENTISTS FOR "EXAMINATION")."

What a brilliant mind!



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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Trying to ridicule the work of a scientist in order to try and discredit his hypothesis is the typical behaviour of someone that does not have a sound argument themselves.


You mean like this:


We can now expect from the Anglo-Zionist gang to start spitting Dr. Zanette, something like: "you foool, cooorreeela-la-la-la-tion means no caaauuusaaation"...


sites.google.com...

Xcaliber is correct; Dr. Zanette's paper is, in part, parody, hence the fatuousness of the abstract. The excerpts that have been posted here prove what his critics have been saying all along: earthquakes happen when planets are in "alignment" because planets are always in alignment! Dr. Omersbashich is so delusional that he actually thinks this savage critique supports his theory.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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Just for you I have sent Dr. Zanette an email so he can clarify that his paper was satire. I don't know why it should be necessary though considering the very first thing written after the title is clearly mocking Omerbashich's fictional European Royal Society.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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Trying to ridicule the work of a scientist in order to try and discredit his hypothesis is the typical behaviour of someone that does not have a sound argument themselves.


You mean like this:


We can now expect from the Anglo-Zionist gang to start spitting Dr. Zanette, something like: "you foool, cooorreeela-la-la-la-tion means no caaauuusaaation"...


sites.google.com...

Xcaliber is correct; Dr. Zanette's paper is, in part, parody, hence the fatuousness of the abstract. The excerpts that have been posted here prove what his critics have been saying all along: earthquakes happen when planets are in "alignment" because planets are always in alignment! Dr. Omersbashich is so delusional that he actually thinks this savage critique supports his theory.



LOL trolls are so delusional they see Dr. Zanette's paper as parody because they believe astrology is BS to begin with. But Dr. Zanette clearly vindicates astrology and corroborates Dr. Omerbashich explicitly:

"The statistical significance of these remarkable empirical observations, and their causal implications for earthly seismicity, can be enhanced by a more systematic, yet elementary analysis of the occurrence of astronomical alignments along a given period."

"To our understanding, these results incontestably demonstrate that strong 2010 earthquakes were bound to occur during astronomical alignments. This, in turn, reinforces Omerbashich’s hypothesis of a connection between such configurations and the seismic response of the Earth as a georesonator"

and so on...

As an expert in statistics for physical sciences, Dr. Zanette obviously admires Dr. Omerbashich. You trolls just can't take it, can you. We now have 2 theoretical physicists PHD who are saying astrological alignments cause earthquakes. Verses 10 uneducated trolls who are regular on internet forums



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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Just for you I have sent Dr. Zanette an email so he can clarify that his paper was satire. I don't know why it should be necessary though considering the very first thing written after the title is clearly mocking Omerbashich's fictional European Royal Society.


Nope, it's mocking only in the eyes of those who think "astrology is BS, period".

To those with open mind, any result is significant if demonstrated from data.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:41 AM
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To our understanding, these results incontestably demonstrate that strong 2010 earthquakes were bound to occur during astronomical alignments.


Exactly, because the planets are in alignment 98% of the time. Incontestably, if you lose your car keys the planets were bound to be in alignment. Incontestably, if you lose your sock in the washing machine the planets were bound to be in alignment. Incontestably, if the Cubs win the World Series, the planets were bound to be in alignment. Incontestably, if you get an "A" in English, the planets were bound to be in alignment. Incontestably, if it rains, the planets were bound to be in alignment....



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:41 AM
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A M 4.2 quake just hit Los Angeles, which is due to Elenin and Saturn alignment with earth. Just as good Dr. predicted, Elenin will speed up August-October when it will be able to cause just some mild seismicity. First we had the East Coast 10 days ago, and now LA.

From good Dr.'s Tweet:
#EARTHQUAKE (EMSC): ML 4.2 GREATER LOS ANGELES AREA, CALIF. adf.ly/2jLze q.gs/837213/h
52 minutes ago

Way to go, Dr. Mensur Omerbashich !



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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To our understanding, these results incontestably demonstrate that strong 2010 earthquakes were bound to occur during astronomical alignments.


Exactly, because the planets are in alignment 98% of the time. Incontestably, if you lose your car keys the planets were bound to be in alignment. Incontestably, if you lose your sock in the washing machine the planets were bound to be in alignment. Incontestably, if the Cubs win the World Series, the planets were bound to be in alignment. Incontestably, if you get an "A" in English, the planets were bound to be in alignment. Incontestably, if it rains, the planets were bound to be in alignment....


Incontestably, you trolls always take words out of context, here is the full quotation by Dr. Zanette:
"To our understanding, these results incontestably demonstrate that strong 2010
earthquakes were bound to occur during astronomical alignments. This, in turn,
reinforces Omerbashich’s hypothesis of a connection between such configurations and
the seismic response of the Earth as a georesonator [1]."

Incontestably, M 6+ earthquakes follow the expected pattern of increase-peaking-decrease during the alignments, but never in the absence of the alignment such as when other bodies are interposing as we saw 4-17 August.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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Actually we're 100% correct. I've already received a message back fro Dr. Zanette. It seems that the infallible "good Doctor" can't even perceive satire.


Thank you for your message. You have correctly perceived the satirical nature of my "contribution". I am amused to hear that Omerbasich and supporters (?!) think that it backs their theories (which of course I consider garbage)... but perhaps this reaction was to be expected. Let us just enjoy the entertainment, which will evanesce as swiftly as comet Elenin.

Best wishes. Damián Zanette

PS: I have created the "Patagonian Royal Society" to give an institutional frame to my paper, only to recall that nobility titles are banished in my country since 1813...

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