"Tea Party GOP Drives US Towards Catastrophic Default, World Panic"

reply to post by SmedleyBurlap

...The Tea Party is not being blamed for anything that they have had no part in. They are being blamed for getting in the way of a resolution to this crisis. The most important thing that they have done since being elected is stand against social programs that tens (hundreds) of millions of Americans depend on now and will depend on in the future. ...

What a crock. The Tea Party are BABY BOOMERS who are looking at retirement in a rotten economy. The do not have the luxury of starting over. All they can do is try to salvage the present situation for themselves and their kids and grand kids.

The democrats are loosing support among the elderly and older Hispanic population. They even characterize Tea Party Members as "politically sophisticated" and "over 45" with "more education".

So that leaves the young, naive and uneducated... Marshall even says so "....will require the Democratic Party to continue to bring young, and often unreliable, voters to the polls.... "

This is what a BIAS Democratic think tank says:

....poll results shows that while Tea Party members are politically sophisticated and vote at high rates, they are also fiscally and socially more conservative

...The Blair-Rockefeller Poll found that Tea Party members are predominantly white, middle class, educated, Christian males over the age of 45...

Tea Party members tend to have a higher income, more education and lower unemployment rates than non-Tea Party members, they are more pessimistic about the future. When asked about their personal situations, 36.9 percent of Tea Party members reported they expect things to be worse or much worse in the coming year,.... newswire.uark.edu...

....While older voters continue to vote in high percentages, compared to younger cohorts, clear support for the Democratic Party is confined largely to African Americans. While older Hispanics generally favored the Democratic Party, they showed substantial willingness to vote for Republican Senatorial candidates in the 2010 midterm election. Further, the traditional Democratic support among older Caucasians continues to decline, particularly among older Caucasians living in the South..... blairrockefellerpoll.uark.edu...

Sort of damns the Democratic party with faint praise.

reply to post by Sunlionspirit

Reagan is the beginning of the problem and Bush with his tax cuts for the rich and wealthy..

STUDY your history!

DEMOCRAT Wilson and his puppet master Col. House knew what they were doing, when Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on Christmas eve 1913.

During the Panic of 1907, Wilson had declared, "All this trouble could be averted if we appointed a committee of six or seven public-spirited men like J.P. Morgan to handle the affairs of our country."

DEMOCRAT F. D. ROOSEVELT:

..Franklin D. Roosevelt himself was an international banker of ill repute, having floated large issues of foreign bonds in this country in the 1920s. These bonds defaulted, and our citizens lost millions of dollars, but they still wanted Mr. Roosevelt as President....

Roosevelt’s law firm of Roosevelt and O’Connor during the 1920s represented many international corporations....

When Franklin D. Roosevelt took office as President of the United States, he appointed as Director of the Budget James Paul Warburg, son of Paul Warburg, and Vice President of the International Acceptance Bank and other corporations.....

One of the first things he [FDR] did was to declare a bankers’ moratorium, to help the bankers get their records in order....

Paul Einzig pointed out in 1935 that:

"President Roosevelt was the first to declare himself openly in favor of a monetary policy aiming at a deliberately engineered rise in prices. In a negative sense his policy was successful. Between 1933 and 1935 he succeeded in reducing private indebtedness, but this was done at the cost of increasing public indebtedness."

In other words, he eased the burden of debts off of the rich onto the poor, since the rich are few and the poor many.

....It was the Federal Reserve’s avowed aim in 1927, after the secret meeting with the heads of the foreign central banks, to get large quantities of that gold sent back to Europe, and its methods of doing so, the low interest rate and heavy purchases of Government securities, which created vast sums of new money, intensified the stock market speculation and made the stock market crash and resultant depression a national disaster.

Since the Federal Reserve System was guilty of causing this disaster, we might suppose that they would have tried to alleviate it. However, through the dark years of 1931 and 1932, the Governors of the Federal Reserve Board saw the plight of the American people worsening and did nothing to help them. This was more criminal than the original plotting of the Depression.... www.apfn.org...

FDR was also the President responsible for the confiscation of US citizen gold which he gave to the bankers. And the regulations that bar US citizens from owning gold.

Excerpts from Congressman McFadden's Speeches:

..."Some people who think that the Federal Reserve Banks United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers;...

"These twelve private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this Country by the bankers who came here from Europe and repaid us our hospitality by undermining our American institutions. Those bankers took money out of this Country to finance Japan in a war against Russia.

They created a reign of terror in Russia with our money in order to help that war along. They instigated the separate peace between Germany and Russia, and thus drove a wedge between the allies in World War.

They financed Trotsky's passage from New York to Russia so that he might assist in the destruction of the Russian Empire. They fomented and instigated the Russian Revolution, and placed a large fund of American dollars at Trotsky's disposal in one of their branch banks in Sweden so that through him Russian homes might be thoroughly broken up and Russian children flung far and wide from their natural protectors.

They have since begun breaking up of American homes and the dispersal of American children. "Mr. Chairman, there should be no partisanship in matters concerning banking and currency affairs in this Country, and I do not speak with any.... www.apfn.net...

"By his unlawful usurpation of power on the night of March 5, 1933, and by his proclamation, which in my opinion was in violation of the Constitution of the United States, Roosevelt divorced the currency of the United States from gold, and the United States currency is no longer protected by gold. It is therefore sheer dishonesty to say that the people's gold is needed to protect the currency.

"Roosevelt ordered the people to give their gold to private interests- that is, to banks, and he took control of the banks so that all the gold and gold values in them, or given into them, might be handed over to the predatory International Bankers who own and control the Fed.

"Roosevelt cast his lot with the usurers. "He agreed to save the corrupt and dishonest at the expense of the people of the United States.

"He took advantage of the people's confusion and weariness and spread the dragnet over the United States to capture everything of value that was left in it. He made a great haul for the International Bankers.

"The Prime Minister of England came here for money! He came here to collect cash!

"He came here with Fed Currency and other claims against the Fed which England had bought up in all parts of the world. And he has presented them for redemption in gold....

home.hiwaay.net...

So what has happened to all the gold the citizen's gave to the US government???

The Great American Disaster: How Much Gold Remains In Fort Knox?

....The US dollar of August, 1971 is as of 2009 worth just over 18 cents, according to the Inflation Calculator. Thus, in purchasing power, the dollar has lost over 80% in the past 39 years.

Only foreigners were legally able to turn in their US dollars and get gold from the US Government from 1934 to 1971. August 15 of that year closed off that last power of convertibility.

In 1934, gold was confiscated from US citizens, melted from coins into bars, and gathered over the next few years into a new storage facility at Ft Knox, Kentucky....

The peak amount of gold held in Fort Knox reached 701 million ounces of gold. This was in 1949. This amount equaled 69.9% of all the gold in the world...

From then until 1972, at least 75% of official US gold left the nation in exchange for paper dollars which can be printed at will. However, I think the total amount of real gold which remains is even less. The exact amount that remains is now officially listed at 147.3 million ounces. From the peak, that is a decline of 79%....

When President Nixon closed the gold window exactly 39 years ago, Durell began hearing rumors that made him concerned about the amount and quality of the gold that remained in Fort Knox....

...on September 23, 1974 Mary Brooks, the Director of the US Mint, led six Congressmen and one Senator on a tour of Ft Knox. It was the first time since Franklin Roosevelt visited on April 28, 1943 that anyone except Mint and Treasury officials had been allowed inside of Ft Knox. Too my
knowledge, no outsider has been inside ever since.

The only audit that has ever been done of the gold inside Ft Knox was done days after Dwight Eisenhower became President in January of 1953...

The central problem was that it wasn't much of an audit. To sum it up:

1. Representatives of the audited group were allowed to make the rules governing the audit. No outside private experts were allowed.

2. Those government bureaucrats involved were inexperienced in their tasks, by their own admission.

3. The entire audit of the largest gold hoard ever concentrated in history lasted only seven days.

4. Only a fraction of the gold was actually tested. Later, the officials put this fraction at just 5%.

5. Based on that fraction, the official committee reported that, in their opinion, all the holdings would have matched their records if they'd all been tested.

6. If the audit was accurate, the fact remains that almost 80% of it went overseas in the coming years. If the audit was not accurate, the amount of gold lost could have been even more.

The shocking admission Ft Knox holds very little good delivery gold was made to Mr. Durell by the chief official of the General Accounting Office (GAO). This happened a few months after the September 1974 tour.

www.lewrockwell.com...

Now what was that about the Democrats being Lily White????

Originally posted by Crapspackle

Originally posted by civilchallenger
Tea bagger are people who oppose the tea party's idea of less government debt. And yes, they are wackos because they want the USA to be converted into a 3rd world country through anti free market policies.

Oh, you get to just make stuff like that up do ya?

Yes, I get to use words however I'd like so long as the meaning is clear. Welcome to English.

reply to post by civilchallenger

Lets see your non-existent evidence against the free market, poet.

As I stated elsewhere in this thread. The problem is that the Globalists changed the definition of "Free Market" and the corporations/bankers and government has done everything possible to stifle "Free Market" while telling us the opposite.

This time I will let the Mises economists explain.

What Is the Free Market?
The Free market is a summary term for an array of exchanges that take place in society.

Each exchange is undertaken as a voluntary agreement between two people or between groups of people represented by agents.

These two individuals (or agents) exchange two economic goods, either tangible commodities or nontangible services....

Both parties undertake the exchange because each expects to gain from it. Also, each will repeat the exchange next time (or refuse to) because his expectation has proved correct (or incorrect) in the recent past. Trade, or exchange, is engaged in precisely because both parties benefit; if they did not expect to gain, they would not agree to the exchange.

However as I explained before we now longer engaged in a "FREE" exchange.

For example are you in favor of peeing in a bottle to get a job??? Do you find it demeaning and humiliating??? Are you now given only two choices of peeing in the bottle or no possible income???

When you have a Monopoly or Monspony there is only coercion and thanks to Corporate Cartels, regulations and lack of other options like starting a business of your own, most people are locked into the dictates of business in the matter of wages and price of goods.

I am sorry but when the entity with the POWER sets the price of goods AND sets the wages and terms of the contract that is NOT a "free Market"

Heck, Mr. Bullard from R-Calf just testified to the House about the Monsony in the beef cattle industry: agriculture.house.gov...

It used to be when I was young anyone could easily start a business. I knew plenty of people who could barely speak English with their own businesses including my Grandparents. Now they are even going after kids with Lemonade stands!!!

Midway, Ga., Police Shut Down Kids' Lemonade Stand

Texas: police bust lemonade stand fine kids $50

Small businesses losing out to red tape

....you would think cities and states would be overjoyed when someone was willing to open up a new business, bringing with him jobs, economic vitality and tax revenues. You might think that, but you'd be wrong.

Instead, cities and states stifle new small businesses at every turn, burying them in mounds of paperwork; lengthy, expensive and arbitrary permitting processes; pointless educational requirements for occupations; or even just outright bans. Today, the Institute for Justice released a series of studies documenting government-imposed barriers to entrepreneurship in eight cities. In every city studied, overwhelming regulations destroyed or crippled would-be businesses at a time when they are most needed.

Time and again, these reports document how local bureaucrats believe they should dictate every aspect of a person's small business. They want to choose who can go into which business, where, what the business should look like, and what signs will be put in the windows. And if that means that businesses fail, or never open, or can operate only illegally, or waste all their money trying to get permits so they have nothing left for actual operations, that's just too bad. This attitude would be bad enough in prosperous times, but in a period of financial strain and high unemployment, it's almost suicidally foolish....

A REAL free Market - YEAH bring it on! But first you have to get rid of the stranglehold of the cartels.

I am all for the default. Anyone who isn't endorses the rich and bankers. Do you really think anyone of the banking elite would do anything to help? NO! If we default, then they will shoot themselves in the foot if they drop our rating or in any way affect our financial structure. Why? Because we are the default currency. We are also the ones who send money to almost every other nation on earth. If they do any of it, then they affect their income. That is not something a smart business person does. We have a certain amount of income, and we need to learn how to control our spending so we do not spend more than we make, simple economics. Unfortunately our government is run by lawyers and professional politicians who don't have a clue how a business is run, hence our current dilemma.

Originally posted by civilchallenger

Originally posted by Crapspackle

Originally posted by civilchallenger
Tea bagger are people who oppose the tea party's idea of less government debt. And yes, they are wackos because they want the USA to be converted into a 3rd world country through anti free market policies.

Oh, you get to just make stuff like that up do ya?

Yes, I get to use words however I'd like so long as the meaning is clear. Welcome to English.

The meaning I got from it was that you told a lie just to cover up for a nickname you do not like.
Thank you!

Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by civilchallenger

 

I am sorry but when the entity with the POWER sets the price of goods AND sets the wages and terms of the contract that is NOT a "free Market"

It used to be when I was young anyone could easily start a business. I knew plenty of people who could barely speak English with their own businesses including my Grandparents. Now they are even going after kids with Lemonade stands!!!

Instead, cities and states stifle new small businesses at every turn, burying them in mounds of paperwork; lengthy, expensive and arbitrary permitting processes; pointless educational requirements for occupations; or even just outright bans. Today, the Institute for Justice released a series of studies documenting government-imposed barriers to entrepreneurship in eight cities. In every city studied, overwhelming regulations destroyed or crippled would-be businesses at a time when they are most needed.

A REAL free Market - YEAH bring it on! But first you have to get rid of the stranglehold of the cartels.

All of this is true. However, I think people are way to defeatist when it comes to all of this. People have a bad attitude. If people would realize that there are a hell of a lot more of them than their controllers, then they could just get up and claim what is rightfully theirs... a free-market economy.

The US is absolutely not a free-market economy or even close to being a free-market economy. Hong Kong and Singapore are the *only* two economies in existence close to being free-market economies. So if free-market economics is so terrible, their middle class and lower class should be doing terribly. If the free market works, then their middle class and lower classes are doing relatively well. I'll leave it up to people to look up how their economies are faring using a web search.

reply to post by haarvik

I am all for the default. Anyone who isn't endorses the rich and bankers. Do you really think anyone of the banking elite would do anything to help? NO! If we default, then they will shoot themselves in the foot if they drop our rating or in any way affect our financial structure....

IF the USA defaults we MUST tell the bankers to take a flying leap as Iceland did. Unfortunately BUSH and OBAMA bailed the SOBs out using Tax payer money (labor) just as FDR did with citizen GOLD.

The USA as Reserve Currency:
The Russians, China and others are calling for a different world reserve currency than the dollar.

OPEC oil countries are moving to the Euro instead of the US dollar, that is the real reason for the heating up of the middle east. The Real But Unspoken Reasons For The Iraq War

If the US dollar ever losses reserve currency status all those inflationary birds are going to come home to roost and we are going to be in a world of hurt. Why the USA hasn't seen hyperinflation.

If the USA defaults AND the Traitors in Washington DC hand the USA over to the IMF/World Bank then the IMF BECOMES the defacto government through their Structural Adjustment Program

Structural Adjustment Policies are economic policies which countries must follow in order to qualify for new World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) loans.....

SAPs often result in deep cuts in programmes like education, health and social care, and the removal of subsidies designed to control the price of basics such as food and milk. So SAPs hurt the poor most...

...By devaluing the currency and simultaneously removing price controls, the immediate effect of a SAP is generally to hike prices up three or four times, increasing poverty to such an extent that riots are a frequent result..... www.whirledbank.org...

So what happen to OUR gold???

The Great American Disaster: How Much Gold Remains In Fort Knox?

...The peak amount of gold held in Fort Knox reached 701 million ounces of gold. This was in 1949. This amount equaled 69.9% of all the gold in the world; never before had so much gold been gathered in one place.

But soon after that, gold began to leave Ft Knox and was shipped to the foreign persons and institutions who ponied up their $35 in Federal Reserve Notes for each troy ounce of gold they wanted...

At some point in the 1950s, $35 became too cheap a price for gold.

From then until 1972,

at least 75% of official US gold left the nation in exchange for paper dollars which can be printed at will.

However, I think the total amount of real gold which remains is even less. The exact amount that remains is now officially listed at 147.3 million ounces. From the peak, that is a decline of 79%....

The central part of what I learned is that, by official admission, only a small percent of the gold that is left in Fort Knox is "good delivery" gold. In fact, though this is just my opinion, I wonder if there was so little such good delivery gold left by August of 1971 that Nixon had to close the gold window.

"Good delivery" gold is gold that is at least .995% pure. Pure gold is .9999 fine. However, gold is allowed to be .995 fine and still be acceptable to buyers, such as central banks and sophisticated investors. All of the gold that had left Ft Knox before the window closed 39 years ago today was "good delivery."

The shocking admission Ft Knox holds very little good delivery gold was made to Mr. Durell by the chief official of the General Accounting Office (GAO).

This happened a few months after the September 1974 tour. During that event, which lasted less than four hours, the visitors were shown only what the Treasury officials conducting the tour intended these elected (non-expert) representatives to see. Only one of the 13 compartments supposed to contain gold was actually opened to the visitors. As the cameras flashed, a few bars were weighed by the Congressmen. None of them were assayed.

But even worse than this was the fact that these eyewitnesses were shown bars that were strangely orangish in hue. This is a sign that they are far from pure gold....

Krieger admitted that only a small part – 24.4 million ounces – of the official gold was of a quality of .995 or better.

In other words, less than 10% of the 264 million ounce held by the Treasury could be considered good delivery gold.

...After decades of mismanagement, it is clear that nearly all of the good-quality gold in Fort Knox is gone. If a real audit were ever done and made public, it would shock the nation....

...

reply to post by haarvik


I just wanted to add this

US Coeur Alaska signs deal with China National for Kensington gold

US-headquartered silver and gold miner Coeur d'Alene Mines Corporation said its wholly owned subsidiary Coeur Alaska, Inc. had signed a deal with China National Gold Group Corporation, China's largest gold producer, for around half the projected gold output from its new Kensington gold mine in Alaska....

The name of the game is to completely strip the USA of "tradables"

Statistics (courtesy of Bridgewater) showed in 1990, before WTO was ratified, Foreign ownership of U.S. assets amounted to 33% of U.S. GDP. By 2002 this had increased to over 70% of U.S. GDP. www.fame.org...

It gets worse. The Department of Homeland Security says 80% of our ports are operated by Foreigners and they are buying and running US bridges and toll roads. www.alabamaeagle.org...

And now they are literally selling the ground from beneath our feet. Other countries have been quietly buying up US farmland for over a decade or two A family in Brazil (JB Swift) just bought a large chunk of the beef industry. With the mortgage crisis, land just became a bargain. With the Food "Safety" Modernization Act farmers will be driven off the land by over regulation (portugal lost 60%, Mexico lost 75% and Australia has farmers suiciding at the rate of one every 4 days)

ALL those American dollars are overseas WAITING to be invested in the BEST farmland in the world. George Soros is already buying up farms in the mid west.

reply to post by inforeal

People don’t realize the utter recklessness and ignorance of this creature called the Tea Party . . . who are in the process of blackmailing the weak willed president Barack Obama over the debt limit.

Obama has yielded to the blackmail by playing their game and negotiating with them as they hold the US credit as a hostage to their ignorant, obsessive, and dogmatic recklessness.

Indeed those in the Tea party from presidential candidate Michelle Bachman, to the Senate leader Jim DeMint claim that a US default won’t be that bad!

Everybody in Washington has been having one big party after another, and the time will come when they wont be able to afford all the parties that they are having. Even there current party this tea party, you can not afford.

Everybody has a party and is always partying up on the hill. Really what else would you expect from such party animals. So they will party till the end comes.

And when the end comes the party will be over, and somebody is going to have to clean up all there mess, and actually do some work.

reply to post by crimvelvet


This is terrifying,

So, who owns us?

Why was it allowed to happen?

reply to post by GeorgiaGirl

I've been to several Tea Party Tax Day Rallies. The people at these events are grass-roots Americans. About as dangerous as your Grandma.... For anyone to say that this group of Americans has a nefarious plot to destroy America is hilarious. The Tea Party is made up of citizens who LOVE America. Also, we're not embarrassed to be American (feeling like we need to apologize to the world like he-who-shall-remain-nameless). Warts and all, we love America and want to make sure that we preserve our country for our coming generations.

Good intentions do not a plan or way make, nor do good intentions lead to good ends. "The path to hell is paved with good intentions" more often then not. And grandma and the unthinking masses can be dangerous and are the primary tool of those who want power. So yes they are the ones who are destroying america, because they just haven't got a clue.

So here is a clue for you, keep it simple and have some doable goals, don't get caught up in the glam and glitter because its all fake, and trust no body and no one especially when it comes to politics, because everybody has a price. And most that go to Washington go to sell something, and that something is usually themselves. So watch what you buy. Or better yet buy nothing and take everything that you want.

reply to post by Stormdancer777

This is terrifying,

So, who owns us?

An old 1989 article about farmland: articles.chicagotribune.com...
Another 1989 report

....the reasons for increasing foreign investment in U. S. farmland, the direction of these investments and potential impact on small farmers and the farm economy. Relatively lower prices of U. S. farmland, highly productive land, and safe investment opportunities in land have induced foreign investment. Foreign investment trends indicate a continuing upward direction at slightly higher than the current level of 12 million acres of and. The potential negative impact of foreign investment on small farmers and the farm economy appears to outweigh the positive effects of this foreign invasion into U. S. farmland..... sbaer.uca.edu...

More recent under CHINA:

Will China buy American farms?
An article written in 1989 titled, “Foreign ownership of American agricultural land” [Above article cv] spoke about the so-called problem of foreign ownership of American farms which caused a lot of nervousness amongst farm workers. Such fears prompted proposed federal and state legislation which would limit or restrict ownership of American farms.

...At the time the article was first published it reported that foreign direct investment in agricultural land in the USA was approximately 12.5 million acres, [1989cv ]

...Another article dated July 22, 2010 which stated that foreigners owned a total of 22.2 million acres of American farmland. There is ... 922 million acres is privately owned farmland.

...In a little over 20 years, foreign persons’ ownership of American farmland rose slightly.

This will start to soon dramatically change, with foreign farmland purchases soon to rise. Foreign buying of American farms will come primarily from China.

China’s recent drought has been bad, the worst in the past 60 years. Almost 12.5 million acres of China’s winter wheat crop has been damaged. A UN Food and Agricultural Organization, the FAO recently issued an alert stating that 2.57 million people and 2.79 million livestock are “suffering from shortage of drinking water”....

A quick overview of how it happened.
1. Clinton sign the World Trade Organization treaty with its "Agreement on Agriculture" written by Cargill VP Dan Amstutz.

2. Clinton push the entry of china into the WTO. LINKY

3.Clinton sign the banking bills causing the housing boom and bust

4. HILARY Clinton was a big advocate of the food "Safety" bill sponsored by Rosa Delauro (D-CT)

And now we find CHINA doing what it so desperately needs to do BUY FARMLAND as the USDA and FDA start aggressively go after Americans.
USDA fines family up to four million dollars for selling bunny rabbits

When China BOUGHT Clinton it seems they got a REAL GOOD DEAL!


Bill Clinton's Campaign Contributions:

Justice Department Investigation

• Overview: In late 1996, a Justice Department task force started investigating allegations of campaign fund-raising abuses by the Clinton reelection campaign. Critics accused Attorney General Janet Reno of botching the investigation and demanded that she appoint an independent counsel.....

Huang to Offer Guilty Plea
May 26, 1999
The Justice Department announced that John Huang has agreed to plead guilty to a single felony charge as part of an agreement that legal sources said promises that he will not be prosecuted in connection with his fund-raising for President Clinton.

Trie to Plead Guilty
May 22, 1999
Controversial fund-raiser Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie entered into a plea agreement with the Justice Department, winning leniency in exchange for telling all in an investigation of improper campaign contributions originating in China.

Not Chinese Agent, Chung Says
[If you believe that I have some Florida Farmland (SWAMP) I want to sell....]
May 12, 1999
Former Democratic fund-raiser Johnny Chung told a congressional committee that he received $300,000 from a Chinese general interested in influencing the 1996 presidential election. But he insisted that he "never acted as an agent for the Chinese government."

You can read the rest HERE: www.washingtonpost.com...

Lots of other info posted in my post at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

The Repubs are just as guilty but everyone else bashes them for me so I don't have to.

I Cover Pres. Reagan's contribution to the mess HERE Reagan's Administration was the Era of the Hostile Takeover aka Leverage buyouts.

reply to post by Stormdancer777

This is terrifying,

So, who owns us?

I forgot to add the other half. "American" corporations owned by foreign interests that control the output of American farms.

Mr. Bullard of R-Calf does a wonderful job of explaining it in testimony to congress: agriculture.house.gov... If you did not read it already I suggest you do.

Statistics (courtesy of Bridgewater) showed in 1990, before WTO was ratified, Foreign ownership of U.S. assets amounted to 33% of U.S. GDP. By 2002 this had increased to over 70% of U.S. GDP. www.fame.org...

Who knows how bad it is now???

This is a sampling of the industries with over 50% foreign ownership, according to Source Watch www.sourcewatch.org...

* Sound recording industries - 97%
* Commodity contracts dealing and brokerage - 79%
* Motion picture and sound recording industries - 75%
* Metal ore mining - 65%
* Wineries and distilleries - 64%
* Database, directory, Book and other publishers - 63%
* Cement, concrete, lime, and gypsum product - 62%
* Engine, turbine and power transmission equipment - 57%
* Rubber product - 53%
* Nonmetallic mineral product manufacturing - 53%
* Plastics and rubber products manufacturing - 52%
* Other insurance related activities - 51%
* Boiler, tank, and shipping container - 50%
* Glass and glass product - 48%
* Coal mining – 48%

THE SOBs Have been selling the USA of piece by piece!!!!

It is well known that there is a level of deep politics that transcends the Liberal/Democratic and Conservative/ Republican paradigm. . . so what, most astute people understand that. But that doesn’t take away the near reality that the issues that revolve around the present situation will bring many to a state of immediate suffering. That’s local politics that has its degree of reality and shouldn’t be ignored with the canard: "oh this is the usual left/right paradigm I am so sick of”

You would surely be sick if you were one of the thousands of layed off workers who were building the tunnel to New York City and Chris Christie, Republican governor of NJ, layed them off. The democratic governor wouldn’t have done that and done the other millions of dollars of cuts that layed off thousands of teachers, cops, and firemen because he, Christie, cut taxes for the rich. Don't be swayed by this distraction ( all politics is bad ) it is irrelevant to this issue, one needs to deal with all levels of politics, they all have their degree of validity.

look at this one
i.dailymail.co.uk...
he is the right wing one that destroys his OWN people !!!!!! his OWN youngsters !!!
not the islamist sharia stupid ones, no man, his own people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just like tea party stupids are destroying their OWN middle class, creating more poor families !!!
look at history, look at reality, look at yourself : you are damned man up there in USA !!! because you are against the people !! you never will understand SOLIDARITY !!! because you big gun holder , big ego, big penis, big macho up there !!!! not all of you of course, not the poor children and mothers of course, just the ones billionaires not paying any taxes thanks to Bush puppet and his tax cuts !!!!
just GREED GREED GREED $$$$$$ GREED !!!!! NO NEVER solidarity with the people, just more $$$$$$$$$$ and more inhuman world !!!
go to hell, you neo-con neo-liberal stupid apes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Jezus

Originally posted by poet1b
The fault lays squarely on all the morons who continue to support free market economics after they have been proven to fail so consistently.

What do you mean fail?

They did exactly what they were meant to do.

Centralize social power and physical resources.

Create a smaller plutocracy and a larger under class.

People seem to forget that "the rich" and "the government" have always been one group.

Originally posted by RRokkyy
The Rich are the Government.

The Rich is the Military, Pharmaceutical, Prison industrial complex paid
for by the middle class and poor.
Imperialist wars and drug wars
butter their bread.

Originally posted by crimvelvet
How come it is ALWAYS the fault of the Republicans but mention a Democrat and his feces don't stink according to the Libs who quickly jump to the defense.

I already said I agree that it is the democrats fault.

But after rereading my original post I was wondering why you even brought that up?

I didn't say anything about republicans...

Dick Armey's Freedom Works worked like a sheep dog to herd the TPM into the direction of the fold of the GOP. Then, playing over the loudspeakers, came the propaganda to direct national thinking rightward, to ensure 1960s GOP ideology came back zombie-like from the grave ...

Earlier this year, we witnessed looming government-showdown duels between competing spending reduction plans. Now with the debt ceiling debate, the only two options are a choice between a package of painful cuts and a package of deeply draconian cuts. There has been no lively discussion of new policy ideas for job creation, foreclosure mitigation, or how to spur demand, the key driver of economic recovery.

The incredible resources the right has amassed for its debt campaign are unmatched by progressives. Moreover, at a time when solving the unemployment crisis should be our national priority, only the very wealthy and privileged have the money to direct national ad campaigns of any real impact. In an era of unlimited corporate money in politics, the unemployed and the Middle Class have a quickly disappearing voice in public life.

source How Shadowy Right-Wing Front Groups Engineered Our National Embrace of Debt Reduction Over Job Creation

The TPM became cheerleaders in the game being played by these groups.

Mmkay, so earlier in this thread I suggested that we follow Jesus' advice and place children in the seats of Senate and Congress, so as to get some good honest common sense, which as Jesus explained, adults lack.

But what appears to have been done, is to deal with the impotence of House/Senate by creating a super-congress.

So this is truly stupid. While people debate stupid crap, more silly adults, are placed into even more power, where they can sacrifice the future generations.

But see, if you simply agree to elect children, and place them into power, it would call all the liars out into the open, because children are imbued with divine spirit. And these would heal the offices of power. But sadly, the spirit of Jesus is lacking in this world, and so like some stupid apostle pushing kids out of the way, and keeping them away from Jesus, these people think they know better. But you see, anyone who claims to love Jesus, has to understand him. You cannot claim to love him and forget that he told us to look to the children to find the template for divinity.

I think eventually what I am saying here will be made true. When children are given the reins of this world and the knowledgeable idiots who currently run it are removed from power, then there will be a new world. Until then, it's hopeless. Just sayin', the road to destruction is the most populated road, but what does Jesus mean that we must "struggle" to be on the road to life? Well, do you struggle with the idea Ihave presented above, in the spirit of the gospel? Probably it seems so absurd that you'll laugh rather than even struggle with the idea. But if you think about it, you will struggle with that thought. And this is the key struggling which you must do. Because divinity does not come through priests or elected leaders.

Howdy. So one of the reasons that you should put children into the seats of Congress and the House as I have recommended according to the maxims (behavioral templates) of the gospel, is because people enjoy projecting too much.

See, the news is full of politics all day long.

"Is [candidate X] really a Repblicrat?"
"Is [candidate Z] really a Democan?"
"Why did [publication X] run such an unflattering photo of [candidate Y] and his llama?"
"*gasp* did you hear the news?! [Senator X] was found to have a toe fetish!"

And so forth.

So this is why you need kids, to run the world. Simply because adults, are unfit. They have too much psychosis, and need to surrender to the honest truth of the young. Nothing else can heal the world.

And you must agree, the children are being given no hope for the future, through these current systems. You must agree with me on this point: The kids are not being given hope. There is a system to purposefully deny hope, to them. Debate me on this, if you will, for once I myself was a child, and I experienced how purposeful, real, and inescapable, this lack-of-hope really is. It is engineered for centuries, as to how hope is removed, from the minds of the young.

Therefore also does my suggestion stand on its own merit. This move to place the young into our most important positions of power, all over the globe, would give the young people of 2012, hope like they have never been offered. They would have the power to change the world. They'd feel enriched like never has ever occurred until the modern age.

All our ancestors could never in their wildest dreams have hoped to create such a miraculous transformation of society as what I am explaining here. It is only possible in the modern age of Internet Protocol. IP itself, places the world in the hands of the young.

Imagine if you will, a congress and senate that are loved and tolerated, each to a one, by us, the electorate. These young people, our elected Senat-oddlers and Congressboys and Congressgirls, would be tolerated their little tantrums. They would be indulged their shopping sprees. And yes, perhaps they can even be bought with pure delicious candy. But also, if their mothers have said (via suitable affidavit) that "Congressman Jimmy shall not eat candy", then any attempt to sway them with candy, would be a capital offense. You see, all the rules of DC would still apply, and be overlooked. Not much would have to change, only that we would be less able to criticize our leaders, and we would be more inclined to have love and empathy for them.

I know it might end the world of drugs, war, and death that we have today. But would that be so bad? It might mean that we'd have to become integrated, and consistent people (as like children are), and yet, would that be so bad?

How much wealth does a child need, to be content?