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BREAKING NEWS 80 Dead at Utoya Island - NORWAY

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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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**** EDIT CHANGED TITLE OF THREAD TO UTOYA ISLAND CNN CHANGED IT 80 DEAD AT UTOYA ISLAND ALONE WTH!*****

THIS IS AN ATROCITY !


I just saw on CNN the Death Toll has all of a sudden jumped from 17 to 80!

I don't understand how the Death Toll climbed so quickly?

What happened and was the 32 year old Norwegian man the only one to pull this off?

How could he have done this all by himself?

There must have been others.

www.cnn.com...

I think what this man and/or group of people have done in Norway is despicable and an extremely horrendous atrocity.

From what i have heard he is purportedly a white ring extremist who possibly had issues with the muslim immigration into Norway.

Is it a coincidence that Norway backed Palestine becoming a valid/sovereign state 2 days ago and now this attack?

Is it a coincidence Norway was going to pull out of Libya a week from now

Is it a Coincidence Norways Leader says this

"No one will bomb us to silence.

No one will shoot us to silence.

No one will ever scare us away from being Norway,"


We can all come to our own conclusions and suppositions. We will wait and see how the story develops.

This is horrible 80 dead atleast on Utoya Island most likely all Children.

This is horrible idk what else to say.

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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:22 PM
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I think he was alone. He had many weapons, he was dressed as a police man, he was on an isolated island and I think he used the 1st bomb to divert attention away from his real intention.

Whilst security and police etc were dealing with the bomb, he took the opportunity and distraction to trap these kids.

Also I think many died trying to swim away or were shot in their tents.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:27 PM
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Even with the diversion, killing 80 people is pretty difficult imo. Even with that amount of time 80 people is a heck of a lot....
I guess he must have had free reign over the island and hunted everyone down........ :S
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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
I think he was alone. He had many weapons, he was dressed as a police man, he was on an isolated island and I think he used the 1st bomb to divert attention away from his real intention.

Whilst security and police etc were dealing with the bomb, he took the opportunity and distraction to trap these kids.

Also I think many died trying to swim away or were shot in their tents.

There is just no way one man could have planted several bombs around government buildings, then taking a boat to some island and killing at least 80 people while planting also bombs/explosives also on that island which is btw at least 20 mins away from Oslo centrum.

There must be more people involved...



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:28 PM
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Wow UTOYA on wiki already has this written down >< your link is to just Cnn, here's the wiki.
en.wikipedia.org...
Yeah yeah it's not credible but i'm sure it's just a copy and paste from a link.


On 22 July 2011 it was reported that a mass shooting took place at The AUF's summer camp, where 500-700 youths were present. A man dressed as a police officer, named by Norwegian media as Anders Behring Breivik, arrived on the island, telling those there that he was there for security reasons before shooting at individuals As of midnight on July 23, Reuters reports that police have confirmed at least 97 deaths in total with "at least 80" shot on the island.


here are the links wiki has on it's page:

www.businessinsider.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...
uk.reuters.com...

Interesting events are unfolding over there in the nice little country >_



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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This is a terrible tragedy...these were just children or teens attending some sort of summer camp? When is this mess ever going to come to an end. This action gains nothing for no one and I am really baffled by the shooters intentions...what gain is there? I hope he at least is sane enough to say why...not that it really matters it is still just sad for those parents.
edit on 7/22/2011 by DJMSN because: spelling fix



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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Exactly. Don't forget that Norway is a peaceful country. America on the otherhand (for example) has security in malls, schools, etc.

Norway is more trusting and mature and relaxed, thus less likely to have armed security, thus giving him free reign, it's not like those kids could have run anywhere.

Poor people....

Edit: that's not a dig at America btw, just saying - American security would have been armed and ready, whereas Norway has never really had such issues.
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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Possibly others MAY have been involved, but Norway is a peaceful country. That's my point.

A man in uniform has more access to areas no?



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Ty for the Link when i started the Thread I had just seen the breaking News Yellow Strip across the Top of CNN.

Thank you for the Links Provided.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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Dear TheUniverse

A terrible, terrible thing there is no deigning that. My hart goes out to the families involved.

However do not let it become the next excuse that TPTB enjoy when they right that next law to contain you and your family.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:34 PM
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I feel sorry for the children that have obviously died. If the guy (or gal) had some sort of problem with government or whatever (purely speculation) then why would you go after children for gods sake? It'll be interesting to see why this has all happened and what the perps reasoning was. Children are so innocent in everything; atleast go for adults or whatever.... :\



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:35 PM
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However do not let it become the next excuse that TPTB enjoy when they right that next law to contain you and your family.


Agreed i'm not sure whether most of these terrorist attacks are false-flags or just psychopaths. But i find the idea repugnant of mass murdering/murdering people especially children.

This may be a ploy by TPTB to decrease the everydays persons rights and freedoms.

We may never know until we wake up in a completely 1984 type world( Maybe we already are)

and our hearts go out to the Victims and families of this terrible Tragedy.

This is horrible beyond words.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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This is something like this

He too was found alive.

He was the catalyst for Australian gun laws.

it will be easy to predict what is going to transpire in norway.

I feel sad for the loss of life

Martin Bryant



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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The real tragedy... He'll get thrown in prison which for Norway is an efficiency apartment, means to work, make/ save money, free rehabilitation/ healthcare, weekend passes to visit friends/ family... Actually, it's more like a resort compared to our system. Give the guy 5 years in jail. He should be fine and dandy.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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They were kids - tricked by what they thought was a policeman:


Astrid Randen, a reporter for Norwegian broadcaster NRK, quoted witnesses as saying the man — described as "tall, blond and Nordic-looking" and speaking Norwegian — wore a police uniform and summoned youth at the political gathering to gather around him before he "just executed them."

This article also says 80 - and the number may go up.

"The updated knowledge we are sitting on now is at least 80," Maeland told a news conference. "We can't guarantee that won't increase somewhat," he said, adding some victims were badly injured.

www.msnbc.msn.com...



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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Thing about certain States... You pull a gun and start firing off rounds into a crowd you're bound to get popped by half a dozen concealed handgun owners in a matter of minutes... If not, seconds. This freak would've been turned to Swiss Cheese.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by Americanist
The real tragedy... He'll get thrown in prison which for Norway is an efficiency apartment, means to work, make/ save money, free rehabilitation/ healthcare, weekend passes to visit friends/ family... Actually, it's more like a resort compared to our system. Give the guy 5 years in jail. He should be fine and dandy.


I'd rather it be like that than capital punishment anyday to be honest with you.
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Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by mr-lizard
 


Thing about certain States... You pull a gun and start firing off rounds into a crowd you're bound to get popped by half a dozen concealed handgun owners in a matter of minutes... If not, seconds. This freak would've been turned to Swiss Cheese.


That doesn't make the situation any better....
I'm not gunna get into a gun law argument with you but yeah....
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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:49 PM
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Thing about certain States... You pull a gun and start firing off rounds into a crowd you're bound to get popped by half a dozen concealed handgun owners in a matter of minutes... If not, seconds. This freak would've been turned to Swiss Cheese.


I agree a gun and/or Concealed Carry person(s) would have stopped this tragedy on the Island.

It is horrible and insane that this man murdered 80+ people on an island after the bombing and was able to do so without being stopped until many people and children were dead.

If they just had a gun or two at the camp in a safe maybe they could have done something quicker...



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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IMO if this is an act against the Muslim immigration issue, this is just proof positive that the entire "fear Muslims" political agenda has infiltrated the very basic thought processes of too many people. It was only a matter of time before someone acted upon that.

We are too susceptible to the propaganda of the media and I hope this man (Men) was just crazy!
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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:57 PM
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IMO if this is an act against the Muslim immigration issue, this is just proof positive that the entire "fear Muslims" political agenda has infiltrated the very basic thought processes of too many people. It was only a matter of time before someone acted upon that.

We are too susceptible to the propaganda of the media and I hope this man (Men) wes just crazy!


Yes and the Question is, is a genocide going to occur again like the ones in World War 2 or in Africa Russia China... But this Time Against the Muslims...

It may be possible if the Right Wing Extremists get their way.




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