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Originally posted by MentorsRiddle
'___' is a chemical that allows the brain to hallucinate, sometimes causing a person to see things that would be deemed supernatural – but it is still a hallucination and should not, in my opinion, be considered viable proof or evidence for an afterlife….
However, when the brain is dead and has nothing to process – '___' is not, like another user stated, a good explanation for supernatural experience. Even the neurosurgeons do not have a rational explanation for the first woman’s experiences. So does that stand to reason that another explanation may be in order?
The only rational explanation is that she was indeed out of her body, and experiencing a realm that we do not experience while in this form.
Originally posted by john_bmth
reply to post by Brad-H
Quantum physics says nothing of the sort. Please stop misrepresenting science to support new age bunkum.
Originally posted by posthuman
reply to post by Bob Sholtz
Umm who are you to say what effects '___' will and will not produce? I've heard various anecdotes where a person's sight (mind's eye only) was restored/created for the duration of the '___' experience.
'___''s interaction with our nervous system and consciousness in general is not understood and for that reason I fail to see how a lack of brainwaves could disprove my theory.
It's implicit in the subjective effects of '___' that a physical vessel with an electric current is not an inherent necessity for the experience.
I'm aware that '___' is a physical compound and it seems illogical that its effects would be apparent in a metaphysical environment, however the experience itself would suggest that it is the '___' that FACILITATES this metaphysical state, and given how little science has to say about the effects of '___' in general...
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Originally posted by Unity_99
Originally posted by posthuman
reply to post by Bob Sholtz
Umm who are you to say what effects '___' will and will not produce? I've heard various anecdotes where a person's sight (mind's eye only) was restored/created for the duration of the '___' experience.
'___''s interaction with our nervous system and consciousness in general is not understood and for that reason I fail to see how a lack of brainwaves could disprove my theory.
It's implicit in the subjective effects of '___' that a physical vessel with an electric current is not an inherent necessity for the experience.
I'm aware that '___' is a physical compound and it seems illogical that its effects would be apparent in a metaphysical environment, however the experience itself would suggest that it is the '___' that FACILITATES this metaphysical state, and given how little science has to say about the effects of '___' in general...
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The testimony of the patients. In the '___' studies the patients reported feeling distortions, they felt stoned, they saw their limbs elongated, they were not all out of body either. I read these results years ago.
NDE's have unexplainable things, blind seeing, shoes on roofs discovered, feel super aware, super consciousness, more aware and conscious than at any other time of their lives, no sense of distortion, more real than here, not wishing to come back often. Clarity.
So while they're alike in some ways, they're not identical.edit on 25-7-2011 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)
Is there a scientific explanation for these two Near Death Experiences?,
Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by posthuman
Its still distortions. I've watched alot on it, and Terrence McKenna too. The thing about people seeking the unnatural methods, just always remember its about a frequency match, like unto like. The every best thing is to seek/pray/sungaze when its safe, dawn or sunset, or get some in the side of your eyes, tilting your head up, the rest of the time, meditate, seeking always self improvement, more helping others, more compassion, trying to work out all faults, or blocks to finding ways to help people more. When you reach to purify your love, its a good frequency match. I dont recommend taking anything, except stuff for medicines/illness, immune. We don't need it. Sungazing increases your pineal.