ok I think I'm all caught up
This is a condensed version of this entire thread. I realize it is long, but its better than reading 85 pages of posts right?! I will try to
separate information and keep it as brief as possible. I will also attempt to post a recap every 5 pages or so, and include the most current link in
my signature. If any errors are found or I miss anything, please U2U me. I can't dig through 85 pages either.
ALL links should go to ATS posts within this thread, unless otherwise noted.
Also
This post and
this post by new member AKA23 - She ignores EVERYTHING we did and
summarizes the Q&A - bring it back to basics!!! ♥
Please take the time to read this recap, especially if you have not read anything else. Odds are, your ideas are already addressed here.
Religious Items
John 8:3-11;
originally posted by Damasan
1 Samuel 8:3-11;
originally posted by Kamesan,
transcribed here, and
ltinycdancerg gave an amazing interpretation.
Lucas 1:37? (pointed out in several places from sightings pics) For no word from God will ever fail.
Revelations 8:3-11 posted by
N34Li3Z - how we overlooked this I'll never
know - mentions Wormwood... interesting...Revelations 8:3-11 posted by
N34Li3Z - how we overlooked this I'll never know - mentions Wormwood...
interesting...
Cuervo mentions that Wormwood in Russian is Chernobyl -
Very cool info!! (Requested to add by Cuervo: Chernobyl is "mug wort" in Ukrainian dialect, which is a Wormwood.)
karen61057 points out that mug wort and wormwood are both plants used to
make mind altering substances.
Apparently, there is a religious movement starting on 8/3 -
Facebook
page - and they need 18,000 revivalists - nice find by
plewis51
Information on a blog entitled "the cork tree" was posted by
Dustbowldebutante who's author is apparently "Mormon" which may fit since
we know Mormons do not drink or smoke, and neither do members of 3•8•11
Mormon scripture Covenants 8:3-11 shared by
balrathamir very interesting
- with possible links to
wormwood here.
Domo1 has speculated its all related somehow to the movie THX1138 (is this religious? I admit I didn't see the movie)
Images
This morning 7/21/11; the Q&A says the "new images" are "key" - Also note that the Q&A says we will get a current picture on 8/3/11
Original images of boy and girl (though the boy has not been directly related to any of this), were posted by
David291, embedded by me and quickly seen in a quote at the top of the
page by
mudbeed
For your quick viewing pleasure here is a small version of all 3. Only "Belle" is confirmed associated with 3•8•11
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6da644e0847a.png[/atsimg]
Alleged DOB: 11/11/1928? - 6 Yrs Old
EXIF information provided by
Damasan
Alt Text provided by
harlot7
- - Note: ALT Text mentions Bob Dylan songs; when questioned about 115 on the Q&A, they responded "Jesus was denied too" -
qonone pointed out that is a Dylan lyric. Interesting artwork can be
found on the
Wiki: Bringing it all back home (album)
There is a hidden picture within the picture found by
Domo1,
Constellation type symbols were found in the image of "Belle", also by
Domo1
Alphekka turns out to be some sort of constellation, posted by
ChemTrails101 (quoted by me with comparison images of Domo's and the
Site)
A lot of image names are constellations as well, noted by NEW MEMBER!
Kradyck
A close up of the lips show a skin disease, found by
Domo1
An example of how/why her face is photoshopped is also presented by
Domo1
- - 3•8•11 has admitted that the image is photoshopped due to skin disease
"Belle A Babb, Mansfield, May 23, 1846, August 1, 1911" TOMBSTONE found by
BrnBrdy
- - However, we are told that "Belle" is alive
A mirrored reptilian freaky image was shared by
rushunt
An animated image shared by
AKindChap
While checking out the "connections" at forum spring,
TNTarheel found an
image of twins in black in white.
An incredible, in depth, disection of the Belle images was posted by
Russorevresbo
While searching the site info,
MarineRecon77 came up with this google
earth image.
A good take on the doodled images from
NEW MEMBER! RichieBod (includes a
picture of the doodle)
Mutantgenius mentioned the arrows indicate a speaker turning his head
Also noted (but couldn't find the original post) that the top right image could be a top down view - which ties into the TOP DOWN code on the
site!!!!
doodle.png (external link)
Their decoded alphabet was posted by
Domo1
Important Note
Dethduck, tried to "clear away the clutter" - I'm inclined the agree the
end answer has more to do with Numbers, that NO VIDEOS or WEBSITES are endorsed by 3•8•11, except the formspring page, and the 3-8-11.info page,
and we should focus on the "girl" image. A very long but worthy read if you're inclined to agree ♥
Additionally, please visit an extensive DECLUTTERING, including quotes from the Q&A by
dethduck, here
Video Items
These were found randomly and HAVE NOT been linked to the 3•8•11 sites
Very creepy videos (need a nightmare?) posted by
AnIntellectualRedneck
rushunt found an interesting video showing hidden pictures in the "belle"
image.
Cuervo shares a video I couldn't really follow in regards to radio
frequencies and "distorted coherence" - check it out if thats what you're working on.
Q&A Items
This does not include all 400+ questions answered, just a few of the more important items (if you find something I missed, please let me know)
- NOT ALL information they gave is necessarily part of the answer. It seems like anyone who comes close to an actual theory IMHO isn't answered at
all. While they do say casiopeia is their favorite constellation (and we do agree there are constellations on Belle's face in the image), that doesn't
mean its related. It just means someone asked what their favorite constellation is.
IMPORTANT NOTE: (reiterated) What I find important, others may not, and vice versa - MORE quotes from the Q&A are posted by
Dethduck on page 60 - its strongly recommended you read them ♥ it is
also an incomplete list, and I will update when he adds the rest of them ♥ you can read them yourself at the formspring link.
- The formspring link is
here
- Members of 8•3•11 go by code names of the following numbers
- - - - 175.000 = The one who responds to questions. This in North America. The leader (18,000) got in touch with him.
- - - - 18.000 = The leader. Has read the novel "Anthem" by Ayn Rand. Only can be tier 1.
- - - - 36.000 = is a woman. This tier 2 level. Oldest member
- - - - 68.000 = Encode messages. It is not human
- - - - 21.000 = Has read the novel "Anthem" by Ayn Rand. Tier 2.
- 8/15 is Jake's birthday (no clue who Jake is..)
- They claim they are NOT RELATED to the 8-3-11 facebook page
- They do however support this Facebook page
8•3•11 (external link) but claim the administrator is
not related to their group
- They like the constellation Casiopeia (perhaps because its 11,000 light years from earth? thanks for the add
MaxTO
- They use the Gregorian calendar
- They are not terrorists
- They have a female member and a member in South Africa
- They don't drink coffee or smoke
- They claim this is not related to money in any way - they exactly say
"We are not marketing a movie, book, game, magazine, multimedia experience,
roller coaster, grocery store, or anything else you could possibly spend your money on. We are not in this for profit of any kind."
- They claim this is not related to aliens in any way (though its been mentioned they're not alien but "coming home" and that Dylan music was sent
into space in the 60s)
- They claim this is not related to "Guy Fawkes" in any way
- They claim it is a "retraction" of some kind. (I like
matrixportal idea
that they're lifting veil from society)
- They claim it COULD be considered art (as speculated by several people throughout the thread)
- They claim to have ONE NONHUMAN member named SAM - (dog? cat? pigeon? algorithm?)
- - - - Its speculated SAM could stand for
- Sam is listed in the "site info" (Billing Name:Sam Eightthreeeleven, and yes we have tried calling the phone number, it rings then disconnects, or
requests a message be left)
- The responder on the Q&A also claims to be "nervous" about the upcoming date.
- Whatever THEY are doing is because YOU won't
- They claim it will be LEGAL
- They claim it has nothing to do with Marble Hornets
- Only those who are involved will know details before August the 3rd.
- Only they can answer the "indicated" questions.
- It's the opposite of a political group trying to promote an unilateral thinking
- They believe this is a positive movement.
- This wasn't planned
- EXACTLY 38.451% of the world is injustice - what could that mean?????
- They say that their message has been distorted already
- They say their purpose HAS BEEN GUESSED at formspring - however - That does not mean they posted it - as many of us have asked questions and
received no response.
Extra Thanks to
TNTarHeel,
Neil1972,
DesteredIsland,
BeaverTail,
Komodo,
harlot7, and
grey580 for all their help with this list (each name goes to the
respective helpful post)
What do we know about Belle?
Belle....
- IS Not dead
- IS Not in danger
- IS A symbol of the cause (related but not involved)
- IS American
- IS Sick/ill, but her illness is not the "fault" of the group
- IS Not hospitalized
- WAS not tortured or physically damaged
- HAD or HAS a skin disease (confirmed at the time of the photo)
- IS Six years old in the picture
- IS 83 years old today.
Thanks to
YoungMind92 for this list
The Conet Project and ENRICKS
Its been widely speculated that this is some marketing compaign regarding The Conet Project/Wilco/and those 3 letters I keep forgetting (YHF?)
dethduck called (conet) out here, and explains the
Conetproject in detail here.
We are reasonably confident that its unrelated.
there is no link to any of the information coming from ENRICKS website - we believe it is unrelated
Interesting Numerology Items
- Recent item
Marlow found a connection between 8.3.11 and 38.451% -
little difficult for me to follow but for those on the number aspect, a must read
- 11 is thier favorite number (claiming they were born 11/11 at 11:11)
- 8311 spells BELL - and "Belle" is supposedly 83 years old.
- 83113 is the Zip Code for Big Piney, Wyoming. (thank you
BrnBdry)
- 8+3+1+1=13 (thank you
Phasma)
- - - -
This follows the thinking that it is related somehow to Mary Bell, child murderess, mentioned by
Libertygal - Mary Bell's partner in crime was 13.
- 1/1/83: 1/1/83: ARPANET adopted the standard TCP/IP protocol
- - - - Very nice find
AstroBuzz!, who went on to point out (possibly in
regards to their "levels"/"tiers"
- - - - A tier 1 network is an Internet Protocol (IP) network that participates in the Internet solely via settlement-free interconnection, also known
as settlement-free peering.
- - - - A Tier 2 Network is an Internet service provider who engages in the practice of peering with other networks, but who still purchases IP
transit to reach some portion of the Internet
- A prevalent theory in regards to the US Debt crisis on 8/2, may explain the code names of 3811 members. As
tsawyer2 points out...
- - - - 18,000 troops to afghanistan, another 68,000 added last year, and as of 3/31 a total of 175,000 total troops
- 8*3*11=264 - Google is dropping H.264 from Chrome found by
harlot7
-
wildoracle13 shows us UM8R311A (chills!)
- Their code numbers have nothing to do with radio frequencies according to
IceFlower
- Items that sold for $18,000 found by
ltinycdancerg
- - - - An etch-a-sketch of Obama, and the original pilot script for "Lost"
- On August 3rd of various years (1492) Columbus set sail (1934) Hitler became Fuhrer
- - - - mentioned before but reminded to me by
notquiteright
- - - - 1941: Bishop Clemens August Graf von Galen of Muenster denounces the “euthanasia” killing program in a public sermon - Thank you Tracer 7
(who also mentioned there's a DC Holocaust Tour on 8/3/11)
- - - - Additionally in reference to the Holocaust, Germany sold for 18,000 thanks
thomasc83 - check out his post, he has a lot of interesting notes
Audio Items
-
potential_problem found some interesting things in the mp3 ID tags.
Also when he played them backwards, they sounded like "carnival" music, with the word "help" repeating (cause it wasn't creepy enough already!)
-
harlot7 noted there were email addresses ending in *.gov (potential
thinks is a fake generated list, but its up for speculation)
-
AlphaOphiuchi found more words in an audio saying "I'm Megan student,
I'm student, I'm finished. Megan finished, six."
Other Speculations Include
- a sociology project.
- - - - expounded on by
my.mind.is.mine
- a marketing gimmick for a game/movie release (the most compelling evidence from
IceFlower)
- - - -
specific movies in question: 11:11, Atrocious, Belle, and Smurfs , though the Q&A denies this
- - - -
games in question: resident evil (though they're not umbrella anymore),
NEW MEMBER!! kluskinoodle mentions Assassins Creed re: Altair (along with
some other interesting ideas related to constellations) - give it a read!
- - - -
potential_problem has a interesting concept about the doodles
explaining the marketing campaign theory this is his image directly
- an announcement regarding the holocaust, also an interesting take on this from
wescobar. His wife believes it could be Hitler's daughter. THAT would be
an interesting announcement eh? (possible image proof? nice find
Domo1
and a few posts down
here he finds a Belle
Frajnovits Selman involved in the Holocaust
- UMBRELLA organization connection made by
tracer7
- Holocaust needs its own section theres way more than just this space - I recommend doing a term search on this page, in the meantime thanks to
harlot7 showing us many correlations in her post!
- aids/hiv awareness campaign, interesting take by
Fishticon84 - who also
notices
here The 4 tone sound that it plays on the "Sightings" page is
extremely similar if not exactly the same as the sound that the Montreal Metro (subway) trains make when they leave the main stations
-
Loglady has an interesting theory about it being related to the BBC
production of a game called "The Code"
- something to do with Elenin entering the atmosphere on August
- - - - good supporting information for comet relation comes from
jacktorrance regarding Comet Levy being in the constellation Casiopeia at
the same time as Elenin is in Virgo
- - - - more good supporting information from
RipcurI regarding the
"smurfs" message, our planet being blue, a comet hitting, check it out
- - - - And yet MORE Elenin creepiness from
qonone - August 3, 2011 marks
the time that the earth passes through the brown dwarf perigee position, while the brown dwarf is crossing the earth orbit location.
- something to do with the US debt deadline on 8/2 (financial collapse? i like how
jacktorrance presents this
- - - - also interesting which I forgot, Obama's birthday is on the 4th - thanks for the reminder
bigkatt
- some type of ARG (Alternate Reality Game; speculated by
Zyril here)
-
Undo goes more in depth about the Liberty Bell and Big Ben (both
being/having bells)
- - - - Additional note ties into the Holocaust ideas below
Wildworld
reminds us of Die Glocke (The Bell, spaceship?)
- a very nice theory from
QBSneak000 about
rememberance day ♥ (Domo1 said someone else brought it up first though, oh well, I can't get them all!)
-
Copyfight (external link) vs Copywrite?
- - - -
lynn112 believes it may have something to do with being AGAINST
intellectual property laws.
Things to ponder
Questions to Answer...
Is there a relation to Boyd Bell, confederate spy, speculation from
lesisgod
Is there a relation to Belle M Wagner? author of Science of the Soul and The Stars/ Within the Temple of Isis? Interesting new name
thank you LouBelle
Is it related to Lou BELLE!!!!
Is there a relation to model Camilla "Bell Alberta", Lady Gaga, or actress Jena Malone?
A nice find by
OneisOne regarding Project 1138/Same Sex marital benefits
(see post, includes info about Albert.png)
Is there a relation to
Ultrasonic Testing
(external link] shared by
shushu in reference to the Q&A noting
there are "levels"
- - What or who is SAM? This could actually stand for many things and was mentioned many times and I can't include them all - if it doesn't
specifically relate to something already discussed I can't mention it.
- - What could they be recanting? Everything maybe?
- - What does any of this have to do with the University of Florida?
Is there a relation to John Proffitt? (thank you
WarminIndy - closest
info recap
here)
Also from
WarminIndy, whats up with the "Look both ways before cross the
street"?
I found this so far in relation to "look both ways":
-
IMDB 2005 Movie: Look Both Ways - about a train wreck....
- I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road. —
Stephen Hawking
- its also almost a direct quote from the movie CryBaby (Depp; 1990)
Could the frequency of wing beats per second account for their code names? (re: sparrow/monty python/I lost the link)
Why do "sighting photos" have the University of South Florida on them? thanks to
Jagx1981
Rushunt found this3.8.11 It is Georgi Markov was poisoned / killed by his
wife Anna Belle Markov Dilke, which killed him with a umbrella poisoned, 08/03/11 is the date the org .. BELLE is trying to save their trauma. (and
included some more very creepy videos in his post, don't miss them if you need another nightmare!)
drphilxr reminded me that 175,000 women denied a womens rights movement affiliation and that Arabella Mansfield was a "shemale" lawyer
(wiki didn't confirm the shemale part, but did say she was a womens rights lawyer) - it was asked about on the Q&A but no real answer was given
(response was "the first shemale lawyer" like they were poking fun of the shemale part)
Someone pointed it out it may be related to
steganography (external link). I lost who said it,
if you'd like credit, please U2U me.
Mad Simian speculated there may be SSTV (slow scan tv) signal embedded in
the audio (if anyone is capable of checking on that)
A new speculation caught my eye from
B. Morrison about the unec
misspelling - and that it could mean "Brutality Unnecessary"
Blood disease issues and speculation in connection with Elenin...
Zippidee - Allegedly virus found in Antartica
dating to last time Elenin came around. 40% mortality rate of rh- blood type. 60% survival with hyper auto immune as well as reduced aging and some
dna changes. (source needed)
Along these lines
violentz313 pointed out that BELLE could stand for
"Biological Effect of Low Level Exposure"
Rushunt u2u'd me with a summation of this blood thing, I thought it was worth adding after all
-
"Basically the rh-blood warning about comet carrying a disease that affects neg blood types . Prior known to be here from last passing of elenin
and found in antartica. After com met passes 170.20 will broadcast warning, possible tie to 8.3.11"
-
IceFlower is still unconvinced!
-
dyllels points out that 170.20 MHZ is the Federal Disaster Network
Also, this morning, they did respond to a new question about new pictures on the sightings page - and claim they are "KEY" - this is not the first
mention of 'key' so that might be important although they previously said a "key wasn't necessary" -
Phasma sorted out some locations for us! along with this
info about Austria, and
this info that ties in with the Holocaust theories below!
Also several items picked up between
Mutantgenius and Nightflyer96 in the flyers. For more info
start here
LONG POST by
WirminIndy with loads of speculation including Casey Anthony
and Jaycee Dugard, possibly leading into the "womens rights" theories. A MUST READ!
semperkill found this string of characters,
Tsawyer2 relates to MD5, confirmed by
qonone
Finally - after the text was decoded, most of us hit a brick wall on the doodles in the OP, so if anyone has any new ideas for that - would greatly
appreciate it!
Some things I suspected confirmed by
mutantgenius here.
And I dont know if I'm proud or disappointed that its on page 83 but someone finally brought up HAARP
sort of -
juggalo77 speculates about the doodle images and weather
modification ♥
Tsawyer presented a theory about Belle's assisted suicide to take place
on 8.3.11 - definitely a new one for the list!
One of the BEST Theories yet from Totek no need to click, here it
is! (not the first time mentioned, but the most eloquent to quote)
- - - - I'm starting to think this is an attempt to awaken people to the fact that everyone and everything is connected in one way or another and that
humanity needs to work together.
Thanks to
jewells for sharing info from other forums (for additional
reading check them out)
Additional Thanks to
TRiPWiRe for some recap info - also check out
some interesting image features he found in the Sightings
And Thanks to
grey580 for his ulti-list of "things we know from the
Q&A"
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