8-3-11 Creepy Website! Can We Figure Out The Code?!?!

reply to post by celticpride

Cassiopeia the constellation... en.wikipedia.org...(constellation)

One interesting thing to note on the Cassiopeia angle that stuck out to me when I read through info about the constellation was the fact that it has the distinction of being the strongest radio source observable outside our solar system

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Five is significant here there are 5 CLES scales......

I'm sorry if this has been asked before...

What about the sun symbol in the About Us section of the 8-3-11 site?
Now it's an umbrella, but when I checked it yesterday it was a sun

This is a condensed version of this entire thread. I realize it is long, but its better than reading 59 pages of posts right?! I will try to separate information and keep it as brief as possible. I will also attempt to post a recap every 5 pages or so, and include the most current link in my signature. If any errors are found or I miss anything, please U2U me. ALL links should go to ATS posts within this thread, unless otherwise noted.


Please take the time to read this recap, especially if you have not read anything else. Odds are, your ideas are already addressed here.


Religious Items
John 8:3-11; originally posted by Damasan

1 Samuel 8:3-11; originally posted by Kamesan, transcribed here, and ltinycdancerg gave an amazing interpretation.

Apparently, there is a religious movement starting on 8/3 - Facebook page - and they need 18,000 revivalists - nice find by plewis51

Information on a blog entitled "the cork tree" was posted by Dustbowldebutante who's author is apparently "Mormon" which may fit since we know Mormons do not drink or smoke, and neither do members of 3•8•11

Domo1 has speculated its all related somehow to the movie THX1138 (is this religious? I admit I didn't see the movie)



Images
This morning 7/21/11; the Q&A says the "new images" are "key" - we do not yet know what new images they are referring to - Also note that the Q&A says we will get a current picture on 8/3/11

Original images of boy and girl (though the boy has not been directly related to any of this), were posted by David291, embedded by me and quickly seen in a quote at the top of the page by mudbeed

For your quick viewing pleasure here is a small version of all 3. Only "Belle" is confirmed associated with 3•8•11
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6da644e0847a.png[/atsimg]

EXIF information provided by Damasan

Alt Text provided by harlot7
- - Note: ALT Text mentions Bob Dylan songs; when questioned about 115 on the Q&A, they responded "Jesus was denied too" - qonone pointed out that is a Dylan lyric. Interesting artwork can be found on the Wiki: Bringing it all back home (album)

There is a hidden picture within the picture found by Domo1,

Constellation type symbols were found in the image of "Belle", also by Domo1

A lot of image names are constellations as well, noted by NEW MEMBER! Kradyck

A close up of the lips show a skin disease, found by Domo1

An example of how/why her face is photoshopped is also presented by Domo1
- - 3•8•11 has admitted that the image is photoshopped due to skin disease

"Belle A Babb, Mansfield, May 23, 1846, August 1, 1911" TOMBSTONE found by BrnBrdy
- - However, we are told that "Belle" is alive

A mirrored reptilian freaky image was shared by rushunt

While checking out the "connections" at forum spring, TNTarheel found an image of twins in black in white.

An incredible, in depth, disection of the Belle images was posted by Russorevresbo

Finally, their decoded alphabet was posted by Domo1



Important Note
Dethduck, tried to "clear away the clutter" - I'm inclined the agree the end answer has more to do with Numbers, that NO VIDEOS or WEBSITES are endorsed by 3•8•11, except the formspring page, and the 3-8-11.info page, and we should focus on the "girl" image. A very long but worthy read if you're inclined to agree ♥

Additionally, please visit an extensive DECLUTTERING, including quotes from the Q&A by dethduck, here



Video Items
These were found randomly and HAVE NOT been linked to the 3•8•11 sites

Very creepy videos (need a nightmare?) posted by AnIntellectualRedneck

rushunt found an interesting video showing hidden pictures in the "belle" image.



Q&A Items
This does not include all 400+ questions answered, just a few of the more important items (if you find something I missed, please let me know) - NOT ALL information they gave is necessarily part of the answer. It seems like anyone who comes close to an actual theory IMHO isn't answered at all. While they do say casiopeia is their favorite constellation (and we do agree there are constellations on Belle's face in the image), that doesn't mean its related. It just means someone asked what their favorite constellation is.
ETA: What I find important, others may not, and vice versa - MORE quotes from the Q&A are posted by Dethduck on page 60 - its strongly recommended you read them ♥ it is also an incomplete list, and I will update when he adds the rest of them ♥ you can read them yourself at the formspring link.

- The formspring link is here
- Members of 8•3•11 go by code names of the following numbers
- - - - 175.000 = The one who responds to questions. This in North America. The leader (18,000) got in touch with him.
- - - - 18.000 = The leader. Has read the novel "Anthem" by Ayn Rand. Only can be tier 1.
- - - - 36.000 = is a woman. This tier 2 level. Oldest member
- - - - 68.000 = Encode messages. It is not human
- - - - 21.000 = Has read the novel "Anthem" by Ayn Rand. Tier 2.
- 8/15 is Jake's birthday (no clue who Jake is..)
- They claim they are NOT RELATED to the 8-3-11 facebook page
- They do however support this Facebook page 8•3•11 (external link) but claim the administrator is not related to their group
- They like the constellation Cassiopeia
- They use the Gregorian calendar
- They are not terrorists
- They have a female member and a member in South Africa
- They don't drink coffee or smoke
- They claim this is not related to money in any way - they exactly say "We are not marketing a movie, book, game, magazine, multimedia experience, roller coaster, grocery store, or anything else you could possibly spend your money on. We are not in this for profit of any kind."
- They claim this is not related to aliens in any way
- They claim this is not related to "Guy Fawkes" in any way
- They claim it is a "recantment" or "retraction" of some kind. (I need to double check the actual word they used)
- They claim it COULD be considered art (as speculated by several people throughout the thread)
- They claim to have ONE NONHUMAN member named SAM - (dog? cat? pigeon? algorithm?)
- - - - Its speculated SAM could stand for
- Sam is listed in the "site info" (Billing Name:Sam Eightthreeeleven, and yes we have tried calling the phone number, it rings then disconnects, or requests a message be left)
- The responder on the Q&A also claims to be "nervous" about the upcoming date.
- Whatever THEY are doing is because YOU won't
- They claim it will be LEGAL
- They claim it has nothing to do with Marble Hornets
- Only those who are involved will know details before August the 3rd.
- Only they can answer the "indicated" questions.
- It's the opposite of a political group trying to promote an unilateral thinking
- They believe this is a positive movement.
- This wasn't planned
- EXACTLY 38.451% of the world is injustice - what could that mean?????
- They say that their message has been distorted already
- They say their purpose HAS BEEN GUESSED at formspring - however - That does not mean they posted it - as many of us have asked questions and received no response.

Extra Thanks to TNTarHeel, Neil1972, DesteredIsland, BeaverTail, Komodo, harlot7, and grey580 for all their help with this list (each name goes to the respective helpful post)



What do we know about Belle?
Belle....
- IS Not dead
- IS Not in danger
- IS A symbol of the cause (related but not involved)
- IS American
- IS Sick/ill, but her illness is not the "fault" of the group
- IS Not hospitalized
- WAS not tortured or physically damaged
- HAD or HAS a skin disease (confirmed at the time of the photo)
- IS Six years old in the picture
- IS 83 years old today.



The Conet Project
Its been widely speculated that this is some marketing compaign regarding The Conet Project/Wilco/and those 3 letters I keep forgetting (YHF?)
dethduck called (conet) out here, and explains the Conetproject in detail here.
We are reasonably confident that its unrelated.



Interesting Numerology Items

- 11 is thier favorite number (claiming they were born 11/11 at 11:11)

- 8311 spells BELL - and "Belle" is supposedly 83 years old.

- 83113 is the Zip Code for Big Piney, Wyoming. (thank you BrnBdry)

- 8+3+1+1=13 (thank you Phasma)
- - - - This follows the thinking that it is related somehow to Mary Bell, child murderess, mentioned by Libertygal - Mary Bell's partner in crime was 13.

- 1/1/83: 1/1/83: ARPANET adopted the standard TCP/IP protocol
- - - - Very nice find AstroBuzz!, who went on to point out (possibly in regards to their "levels"/"tiers"
- - - - A tier 1 network is an Internet Protocol (IP) network that participates in the Internet solely via settlement-free interconnection, also known as settlement-free peering.
- - - - A Tier 2 Network is an Internet service provider who engages in the practice of peering with other networks, but who still purchases IP transit to reach some portion of the Internet

- A prevalent theory in regards to the US Debt crisis on 8/2, may explain the code names of 3811 members. As tsawyer2 points out...
- - - - 18,000 troops to afghanistan, another 68,000 added last year, and as of 3/31 a total of 175,000 total troops

- 8*3*11=264 - Google is dropping H.264 from Chrome found by harlot7

- Their code numbers have nothing to do with radio frequencies according to IceFlower

- Items that sold for $18,000 found by ltinycdancerg
- - - - An etch-a-sketch of Obama, and the original pilot script for "Lost"



Audio Items
- potential_problem found some interesting things in the mp3 ID tags. Also when he played them backwards, they sounded like "carnival" music, with the word "help" repeating (cause it wasn't creepy enough already!)

- harlot7 noted there were email addresses ending in *.gov (potential thinks is a fake generated list, but its up for speculation)

- AlphaOphiuchi found more words in an audio saying "I'm Megan student, I'm student, I'm finished. Megan finished, six."



Other Speculations Include
- a sociology project.
- - - - expounded on by my.mind.is.mine

- a marketing gimmick for a game/movie release (the most compelling evidence from IceFlower)
- - - - specific movies in question: 11:11, Atrocious, Belle, and Smurfs , though the Q&A denies this
- - - - games in question: resident evil (though they're not umbrella anymore), NEW MEMBER!! kluskinoodle mentions Assassins Creed re: Altair (along with some other interesting ideas related to constellations) - give it a read!

- an announcement regarding the holocaust, also an interesting take on this from wescobar. His wife believes it could be Hitler's daughter. THAT would be an interesting announcement eh? (possible image proof? nice find Domo1 and a few posts down here he finds a Belle Frajnovits Selman involved in the Holocaust

- aids/hiv awareness campaign, interesting take by Fishticon84

- something to do with Elenin entering the atmosphere on August
- - - - good supporting information for comet relation comes from jacktorrance regarding Comet Levy being in the constellation Casiopeia at the same time as Elenin is in Virgo
- - - - more good supporting information from RipcurI regarding the "smurfs" message, our planet being blue, a comet hitting, check it out

- something to do with the US debt deadline on 8/2 (financial collapse? i like how jacktorrance presents this

- some type of ARG (Alternate Reality Game; speculated by Zyril here)

- Undo goes more in depth about the Liberty Bell and Big Ben (both being/having bells)

- a very nice theory from QBSneak000 about rememberance day ♥ (Domo1 said someone else brought it up first though, oh well, I can't get them all!)

- Copyfight (external link) vs Copywrite?
- - - - lynn112 believes it may have something to do with being AGAINST intellectual property laws.


Things to ponder
Questions to Answer...
Is there a relation to Boyd Bell, confederate spy, speculation from lesisgod

Is there a relation to Belle M Wagner? author of Science of the Soul and The Stars/ Within the Temple of Isis? Interesting new name thank you LouBelle

Is it related to Lou BELLE!!!!

Is there a relation to model Camilla "Bell Alberta", Lady Gaga, or actress Jena Malone?

Is there a relation to Ultrasonic Testing (external link] shared by shushu in reference to the Q&A noting there are "levels"

- - What is SAM? (Surface to Air Missile? - AstroBuzz speculates)

- - What could they be recanting? Everything maybe?

- - What does any of this have to do with the University of Florida?

Is there a relation to John Proffitt? (thank you WarminIndy - closest info recap here)

Also from WarminIndy, whats up with the "Look both ways before cross the street"?

I found this so far in relation to "look both ways":
- IMDB 2005 Movie: Look Both Ways - about a train wreck....
- I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road. — Stephen Hawking
- its also almost a direct quote from the movie CryBaby (Depp; 1990)

Could the frequency of wing beats per second account for their code names? (re: sparrow/monty python/I lost the link)

Why do "sighting photos" have the University of South Florida on them? thanks to Jagx1981

Rushunt found this3.8.11 It is Georgi Markov was poisoned / killed by his wife Anna Belle Markov Dilke, which killed him with a umbrella poisoned, 08/03/11 is the date the org .. BELLE is trying to save their trauma. (and included some more very creepy videos in his post, don't miss them if you need another nightmare!)

drphilxr reminded me that 175,000 women denied a womens rights movement affiliation and that Arabella Mansfield was a "shemale" lawyer (wiki didn't confirm the shemale part, but did say she was a womens rights lawyer) - it was asked about on the Q&A but no real answer was given (response was "the first shemale lawyer" like they were poking fun of the shemale part)

Someone pointed it out it may be related to steganography, and if anyone has any input on Wilco or the movie THX - harlot7 has been working on that - tons of similarities but nothing solid yet ♥

Mad Simian speculated there may be SSTV (slow scan tv) signal embedded in the audio (if anyone is capable of checking on that)

A new speculation caught my eye from B. Morrison about the unec misspelling - and that it could mean "Brutality Unnecessary"

Also very interesting "blood type connection" speculated by Zippidee - Allegedly virus found in Antartica dating to last time Elenin came around. 40% mortality rate of rh- blood type. 60% survival with hyper auto immune as well as reduced aging and some dna changes. (source needed)

Also, this morning, they did respond to a new question about new pictures (what new pictures?) and claim they are "KEY" - this is not the first mention of 'key' so that might be important, and where are the new pics?

Finally - after the text was decoded, most of us hit a brick wall on the doodles in the OP, so if anyone has any new ideas for that - would greatly appreciate it!
Some things I suspected confirmed by mutantgenius here, Thank you!

Additional Thanks to TRiPWiRe for some recap info - also check out some interesting image features he found
And Thanks to grey580 for his ulti-list of "things we know from the Q&A"

For some reason my browser will not open the umbrella pic. In fact it wont open any pics. Can someone please give me a screen grab of the umbrella pic?

Come on! This is obviously a creative project from the band Wilco! I can't believe no one caught this in the first five minutes of research! Alpha Whiskey Foxtrot is an album by Wilco. It's just an opinion, but really. Thay ask on the website, have you seen us? Good job Wilco, very clever. Do your research, it's just something they call art. There doesn't have to be a meaning to it, but it sure did work. Ha, it's really kinda of funny when you look at the responses to " what you think it means".

Peace.

more questions than answers IMHO
at best the only thing we did rule out was the conetproject

reply to post by klhix


I've researched the Wilco angle and other than the YHF I cant see it. I think that someone mentioned an mp3 being used on the Conenet project from Wilco but are we missing something?

reply to post by klhix


it even got its own section

The Conet Project
Its been widely speculated that this is some marketing compaign regarding The Conet Project/Wilco/and those 3 letters I keep forgetting (YHF?)
dethduck called (conet) out here, and explains the Conetproject in detail here.
We are reasonably confident that its unrelated

Originally posted by Zippidee
For some reason my browser will not open the umbrella pic. In fact it wont open any pics. Can someone please give me a screen grab of the umbrella pic?

You mean this one?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/71d91cad51f8.jpg[/atsimg]

It was a Sun yesterday.

reply to post by Casandra


Thank you!

reply to post by Forevever


Thanks for including me. This has been/is interesting. I like seeing everyone's perspectives.

Oh, btw, applications are open again, if anyone wants to sign up to and see if they're worthy.

I dont do twitter but google shows a Jander8311 at twitter - first name Jake....

I just got back from school and read through the updated list and all that stuff just wondering if anything really important has been uncovered since yesterday?

Just to chip in on the Religious angle of all this. I've read through all the information in the thread and the only reference to anything LDS (or Mormon) is the cigarettes and coffee thing, the Cork Tree doesn't have any significance to LDS Theology or "Deep Doctrine" as far as I'm aware. (I've been LDS for 20 years).

Hope that helps a little. This is without a doubt the most interesting thread I've read here in ages!

I believe I can clear up the sun, it was in the about us and a picture of a man at first, copycat site that links to8-3-11.info, it has been taken down and I do mean in a hurry...

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nope, not really, I haven't been here long myself (don't ask me my definition of long)


reply to post by balrathamir


thank you for the mormon info, I'll double check and correct ♥


NOTE: we might want to STOP asking formspring questions - it seems like they stopped answering after this thread got going - its possible they cant handle them

Originally posted by RichH
Sorry i didn't read all of the posts .. but in the submitted pics on that site .. one of the pics date is 3-8-11 instead of 8-3-11. just an FYI

Yes, I noticed that.

The 3-8-11 posters are on the 16th one called "G" (16 tabs) and on the 19th one called "The Switch" (8 tabs), both of which have a person dressed in black that is partially covered.

A post from the 8.3.11 Facebook page

8.3.11 the truth
I'm back..People don't belive in me.. They killed my best friend I know! well.. i dont say anymore about it ..the truth is here..if you want to belive me...GOOD! if you think that this is a BIG LIE...stop being a fan of this page, if you belive in the truth ..You should find out about SAM....bye


Posted before that Is this wiki link. Labeled with the acronym "SAM"

en.wikipedia.org...áutica_de_Medellín

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corrected, I read my own notes wrong

Information on a blog entitled "the cork tree" was posted by Dustbowldebutante who's author is apparently "Mormon" which may fit since we know Mormons do not drink or smoke, and neither do members of 3•8•11