EXCLUSIVE: FBI Raids Homes of Suspected Anonymous Hackers

Originally posted by soaringhawk
To say we have religious persecution here in the U.S.A is a joke. Christians that don't attend the three self church face persecution, beatings and arrests on false charges. Falun Gong members have also faced murder, torture and imprisonment. They are also sent to re-education camps. You are so ignorant and it just boggles my mind.

The Re-education through labor system is not much worse and vile than the American Three-Strikes system.

Rastafarians in America also face imprisonment, police beatings and indoctrination in America.

America also imprisons, beats and kills political activists. Go look at the history of Communists and champions of Democracy and the working class in America. All beaten or imprisoned at one time or another.

You think I'm trying to say China is the beacon of Freedom and Democracy, but I'm not. Clearly Europe holds that mantle. What I'm saying is China in relative terms isn't much worse than America and it certainly isn't the hell-hole you're portraying it to be.

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No problem Honey x

I wish I was the kids Mum. I would say "It was me" whilst feeling such pride I'd be fit to burst.

I'd be like Sarah Connor in Terminator, training my kid to fight the heartless machines, if you don't fight the system it breaks you down and robs you of your life and dreams.

There is a video of 1 little guy crying like a baby being brought out of the house in hand-cuffs by FBI. His momma his hugging him. I believe it may be the 1 of the youngest. Trying to get the embeded #'s now.

Originally posted by FlySolo
reply to post by Mr Objectivity
Your youth is nothing more than complacent zombies who are addicted to text messaging, video games and tabloid nonsense. YET, you but all your trust and faith into a corrupt faceless truth movement called Anon.

That's some way to motivate the young people....

Kids on anti-depressive drugs.. thats causing zombies! And that's caused probably because they have parents like you.

I know what they stand for, but let me see them grow the balls to put themselves in harm's way for their cause instead of being anonymous. And you too! Go outside. Organize. Rally! go do a "sit in" Make your voice heard and stop being cowards pissing people off.

You sure hate kids...

I've got a life to get in order. I'm 40. You kids have years ahead of you with no serious commitments. Go demonstrate and be proud to speak your name LOUDLY. Don't piss off your fellow tax payer. Don't hack emails with nothing to prove. Don't put a halt to the economy be depriving us business owners of our right to do online business. It does nothing! Your cause is a sinking ship and the forefathers of peace movements would be ashamed.

Im starting to think your brain is missing the 'positivity' functionality.


I hope that more kids realize the truth asap.

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I speak the truth, you tell a lie. I never said it's all bad. But corruption is rampant enough and China has a long way to go. It's clear you don't know what you're talking about. It's clear you don't know a Chinese person in mainland China.
I know what goes on and if you do that just makes it all the more worse. As I said, you see what they want you to see. I know real Chinese and unlike you, I care about China, her people and its future. They are Communist and if you don't think so, as I said go to the real China, not H.K, not Shanghai and go get to know some real, ordinary Chinese people! Everything you have said is complete BS.

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this kid was small time...they just gotta arrest somebody so they don't make themselves look bad is all I'm sure...

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Whoops.

Sorry 'bout that!

Originally posted by soaringhawk
reply to post by NadaCambia

 

I speak the truth, you tell a lie. I know what goes on and if you do that just makes it all the more worse. As I said, you see what they want you to see. I know real Chinese and unlike you, I care about China, her people and its future. They are Communist and if you don't think so, as I said go to the real China, not H.K, not Shanghai and go get to know some real, ordinary Chinese people! Everything you have said is complete BS.

China is not Communist. You don't even know what Communism is.

I have family in China, you have a Chinese ex from a family of cowards who ran away and refused to fight the fight for Democracy. You sound perfect for each other.

Originally posted by Mr_skepticc
There is a video of 1 little guy crying like a baby being brought out of the house in hand-cuffs by FBI. His momma his hugging him. I believe it may be the 1 of the youngest. Trying to get the embeded #'s now.

edit on 19-7-2011 by Mr_skepticc because: (no reason given)

Seems to me you're getting pleasure from this.

I'd try to have a debate with you on the moral implications of your thoughts and approach but it wouldn't matter because a shill is a shill is a shill.

Originally posted by dubiousone

Originally posted by Bixxi3

Originally posted by yellowbeard

Originally posted by Mr_skepticc



The targets of the FBI searches are all in their late teens to early 20s.

I'd be willing to make a bet that the real brains behind anonymous are in their 40/50s with impeccable reputations who have managed to make it a "youth movement" and are happy to let their army of young idealists who really don't know what they're up against "take the hits for the team". I doubt if any of the big guns do any of the grass roots "hacking" these days and are unlikely to be traced.

Didn';t the older leaders leave anon because of what it has become?

LOL i bet mom and dad were not please at all.Hopefully they were smart enough to not have anything at there house which could incriminate them. Are they being treated as terriorists?
Man If i was religious i'd be praying right now and asking god to make sure they don't end up in Guantanamo bay. But im not.
(please flying spaghetti monster save them!)

"Terrorists". Please everyone quit applying this stupid overused worn out label of "terrorist" to anything and everything you disagree with. "Waah, mommy, the moles in our backyard are tearing up the lawn. Those damn mole terrrorists!"

The way people throw the word "terrorist" around today shows nothing more than a weak intellect that's unable to accurately describe what they're talking about. Anytime you read or hear the word "terrorist", or are temptred to use it yourself, think about it for a moment and please make at least a minimal effort to understand what the writer, speaker, or you are really try to communicate.

When you use the word terrorist these days it doesn't mean any more than when my dog barks at a person walking down the road in front of the house. "Woof, bark, grrrrr!" "Good doggy. Just relax now. The threat has passed." It just means that something you don't like has grabbed your limited attention and that your 500 word vocabulary is too small to describe it with any discernible degree of intelligence.

On the other hand, if you're unable to modulate the impulse to use that word, then how about just doing what my dog does and, instead of saying the word "terrorist" just go "Woof, bark, grrrrr!"

When you watch or read the news, whenever you hear or read the word "Terrorist", or after you've said it, substitute or follow it with "Woof, bark, grrrrr!" and you'll quickly begin to understand what's really going on and how you've been brainwashed by the government's and the media's continual repitition and application of that label to anything and everything imaginable.

edit on 7/19/2011 by dubiousone because: Clarification

Wow someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. I was just asking a #ing question

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lol are you serious dude? you seriously just said europe is a beacon of democracy and freedom? and that china ISN'T a communist government? what rock have you been living under?

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Deliberate distortion is bad. I'll assume it is from a lack of education along with a lack of motivation to look up what your are claiming.

The Communist Party of China (CPC), also known as the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), is the founding and ruling political party of the People's Republic of China (PRC). Although nominally it exists alongside the United Front,[1] in practice, the CPC is also the only party of the PRC,[2] maintaining a unitary government centralising the state, military, and media.[3] The legal power of the Communist Party is guaranteed by the PRC constitution

Source, Google is your Friend

Or perhaps you are a prototypical Lazy Lulzer

ANY debate on CHINA, imho is a thread derailment and I'm kind of upset that I have to act as a mod on the hottest thread on this damn forum.

Originally posted by soaringhawk
reply to post by NadaCambia

 

Democracy? DEMOCRACY!? Democracy is next to Socialism. We're not a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic! I do know what Communism is, what Socialism is, their roots and the goal of those that belong to it.

And she's not the coward. She didn't flee China btw, but if she had she wouldn't be a coward.

You are the coward and for you to sit there and write what you do is a slap in the face of the many Chinese that have suffered and continue to suffer. You're full of it, you don't know what you're talking about. I don't care if you have family in China. So what!? What does that have to do with a thing? NOTHING!

You are a total moron.

edit on 19-7-2011 by soaringhawk because: (no reason given)

Of course you aren't a Democracy, and thats the problem. People want Democracy, they don't want America or Chinas State Capitalist theocratic plutocratic fascism.

Constitutional Republic my ARSE!

And of course she's a coward. Running away from a fight is cowardly. Countries can only get better if people(Like Anon, for example) are prepared to stand up and fight. If everyone was as yellow-bellied as you and your extended family we'd have no freedoms

Originally posted by here4awhile
reply to post by NadaCambia

 

lol are you serious dude? you seriously just said europe is a beacon of democracy and freedom? and that china ISN'T a communist government? what rock have you been living under?

Europe is the beacon of Democracy and Freedom. Name me a continent in the world that enjoys the level of freedom and Democracy we have in Europe.

And no, China isn't Communist. It's only Communist if you spend your life reading book covers and avoid content.

Originally posted by yellowbeard

I'd be willing to make a bet that the real brains behind anonymous are in their 40/50s with impeccable reputations who have managed to make it a "youth movement" and are happy to let their army of young idealists who really don't know what they're up against "take the hits for the team". I doubt if any of the big guns do any of the grass roots "hacking" these days and are unlikely to be traced.

Quite possible....that is indeed how most things work in this world....Old Men sending Young Men to do their dirty work......Though this does seem to be a fairly youth oriented type of movement. I think the impetus to do such hacks are based somewhat on ones ego....thinking you're smart enough to get away with it. I can't imagine it needing too much of control structure....the bad guys (targets) are all pretty much well known to everyone. I wouldn't be surprised if the members of Anonymous even know what each other are doing much of the time.....They could all just work on their own things until one of them as a really good hack going, then they'd notify the group and they'd send out their version of a 'press release' claiming responsibility in the name of Anonymous.

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Yeah, I didn't want it to go off topic. I should have pm'ed the person. They started it though. I've said all I need to say about it though because no use talking a brick wall. Or someone with dung for brains.

If everyone was as yellow-bellied as you and your extended family we'd have no freedoms

That about sums it up right there. People need to learn what a Democracy really means. It's clear this person has no brain.Speaking of freedom, Geert Wilders recently had a taste of that so called freedom. He's banned from the U.K for speaking his mind. This person is so deceived.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
reply to post by NadaCambia

 

Deliberate distortion is bad. I'll assume it is from a lack of education along with a lack of motivation to look up what your are claiming.

The Communist Party of China (CPC), also known as the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), is the founding and ruling political party of the People's Republic of China (PRC). Although nominally it exists alongside the United Front,[1] in practice, the CPC is also the only party of the PRC,[2] maintaining a unitary government centralising the state, military, and media.[3] The legal power of the Communist Party is guaranteed by the PRC constitution

Source, Google is your Friend

Or perhaps you are a prototypical Lazy Lulzer

edit on 19-7-2011 by TinfoilTP because: (no reason given)

Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate.

Sound like China to you?

China is State Capitalist. The Government could call themselves the "Dolphin Party of China", it wouldn't make them Dolphins.

Originally posted by Reignite

Originally posted by FlySolo
reply to post by Mr Objectivity
Your youth is nothing more than complacent zombies who are addicted to text messaging, video games and tabloid nonsense. YET, you but all your trust and faith into a corrupt faceless truth movement called Anon.

That's some way to motivate the young people....

Kids on anti-depressive drugs.. thats causing zombies! And that's caused probably because they have parents like you.

I know what they stand for, but let me see them grow the balls to put themselves in harm's way for their cause instead of being anonymous. And you too! Go outside. Organize. Rally! go do a "sit in" Make your voice heard and stop being cowards pissing people off.

You sure hate kids...

I've got a life to get in order. I'm 40. You kids have years ahead of you with no serious commitments. Go demonstrate and be proud to speak your name LOUDLY. Don't piss off your fellow tax payer. Don't hack emails with nothing to prove. Don't put a halt to the economy be depriving us business owners of our right to do online business. It does nothing! Your cause is a sinking ship and the forefathers of peace movements would be ashamed.

Im starting to think your brain is missing the 'positivity' functionality.


I hope that more kids realize the truth asap.

Ok, you've lost my respect by making accusations about me. Missing positive brain functionality? Really? I hate kids? Parent's like me?

You're not being objective in this conversation but yet you expect me to see your world view? You can't just loosely spew the word of being positive and then attack me. It makes you look like a wanna be positive guru but with no understanding of the word. This is exactly what I'm talking about...

You have all the right intentions but are going about it ass backwards. You don't see it because you're too young. Come back and talk about this when you grow up.