Incoming object from space will anyone believe it even if there was proof?

No one will believe that anyhing is headed our way until it hits us and then everyone will be screaming"No one tolds us", "We did not know", "Why did some one not warn us?" and so on just like always. People just will never learn.

Originally posted by guessing
What would be the evidence required to prove it here on this site.

Thankyou

edit on 19-7-2011 by guessing because: dislexia

They all need to see it on SOHO first from what has been observed. Visuals do numbers here with the conscious even if visuals can be minipulated. But yea a visual on SOHO will get their minds prepared. sad thing is some SUN/SOL clues and activities are sharing but they need to see the object-EVEN IF IT LOOKS UM INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED

Be well good question

Originally posted by Heartisblack
Hell no, nobody would believe it. I mean sure the nuts from GLP will. But everybody else would've broken down or ran down the street screaming by then. Insanity talks and Niburu walks, nobody would believe it if it was in front of them anyways. Project Bluebeam, CGI or Optical illusion.
Nobody believes anything anymore, not to mention the nuts who think we live in a hologram......life is just too damn complicated to understand some of this crap and we shouldn't stress our lives out over it. S & F OP.

edit on 19-7-2011 by Heartisblack because: (no reason given)

"not to mention the nuts who think we live in a hologram" Do yourself a favor and research (like actually read books, not watch some dude's youtube video) about the holographic universe before you put believers of it in the same category as those who believe in Nibiru. There is a lot of solid science behind it, unlike Nibiru BS.

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Originally posted by guessing
assuming that there would need to be some sort of population panic control, the news gets buried and collababorative efforts are made to surpres the info.

Then someone comes along with undeniable proof from an astronomer who blew the whistle and posts it here.

Is that going to be enough?

edit on 19-7-2011 by guessing because: (no reason given)

Like I said... I won't believe it until the "undeniable proof" can be corroborated; a single point of data (or opinion) is not proof. That doesn't mean that I will dismiss what was brought up just because somebody (a member of your collaboration to suppress the info, perhaps) says it is bunk. Also, that also doesn't mean that I will ignore a thread that lacks corroborating evidence, provided the author is seeking the help of others to verify the evidence.

Also, the author of the thread is going to have to stay calm and explain their stance/evidence in a logical fashion. Too many of the threads I've read are in the tone of "I'm smarter than you because I use YouTube, so you need to listen to what I have to say". If you think you're smarter than everybody else, you're probably wrong.

This was a great topic for discussion, by the way, S&F.

I guess my point is:

Is there a specific format that should be adopted to present the facts correctly?

it is clear that utube videos will provide immediate suspicion of a hoax... so

what is next?

it is unlikely to be breaking news....

maybe a clear accurate well written dot points with verifyable references.

if for some reason it was going to happen, Surely it would be posted here first right?

reply to post by Lemon.Fresh


What you post is a bit odd. There have been plenty of threads claiming to find this planet that is a fiction concocted by Sitchin. Those so-called finds have been all false. Why is that? They simply have all made no sense at all.

The not so odd thing is that after every one of these false clams is shown to be false the same claims appear again, and again, and again, and ...

reply to post by WhoKnows100


I've been called a disinfo agent many times. Is there something in my avatar or the numerology of my name that flaunts disinfo agent?

reply to post by fixer1967

No one will believe that anyhing is headed our way until it hits us and then everyone will be screaming"No one tolds us", "We did not know", "Why did some one not warn us?" and so on just like always. People just will never learn.

That's not true at all. If a planet were headed our way it would be visible in the night sky. There would be plenty of notice that something is up. If the object were small there might not be notice. There are thousands of fireballs a day. Only a few are spotted by people. Thousands of objects have been located in space. Thousands more are yet to be discovered. Some might be in odd orbits that make them one time visitors. They won't be spotted until close if they are small enough.

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You're right, there should be a standard format...

Maybe something like:

| Source of the information
|----- Are you the one who collected the data to be discussed? If not, who is?
|----- Under what conditions was the data collected (MM/DD/YYYY, time, appx. location)
|----- What methods were used to acquire the data (techniques, equipment, etc)
|
| Hypothesis development
|----- A brief description (2-3 sentences) of what you (and/or your source) think the data means
|----- Why you feel you (and/or your source) are qualified to evaluate the evidence being presented
|----- A brief description of how the hypothesis will be (or was) tested
|
| Data scrutiny
|----- What are the other possible explanations for the observations?
|----- A description of the logic or data that ruled out or decreased the likelihood of the other possibilities being correct relative to the current hypothesis
|----- A reason why the source has the potential to be the first observer (was it luck or does the method, apparatus, or location of the source give it a unique ability to detect something were it there?)
|----- What the source may stand to gain from the popularization of the theory (are they selling something on the subject already?)
|
| Verification
|----- A list of secondary sources or potential sources that could corroborate the evidence
|----- An invitation to others to propose alternatives that may not have been considered above

I'm sure there are holes in the above, but this was just off the top of my head. And by the way, just because it's on YouTube doesn't mean it can't be real; it just means that additional scrutiny is required.

reply to post by stereologist
Well les us hope you are right. Something is headed our way and we are going to get hit and hit hard. That much is a FACT. Now it maybe next week or it may not happen for a thousand years. Sooner or later it will happen. I am saying we should plan for 'sooner' and hope for 'later'.

No of course not,.
But then again,. the MSM doesnt say anything about this event so Many of the people will be
hearing it for the first time
But,,, You and the rest of us know better, right..

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh

 

What you post is a bit odd. There have been plenty of threads claiming to find this planet that is a fiction concocted by Sitchin. Those so-called finds have been all false. Why is that? They simply have all made no sense at all.

The not so odd thing is that after every one of these false clams is shown to be false the same claims appear again, and again, and again, and ...

The post was made in jest . . .

yet, like all good comedy, there is a modicum of truth behind it.

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Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by WhoKnows100

 

I've been called a disinfo agent many times. Is there something in my avatar or the numerology of my name that flaunts disinfo agent?

My guess it's the "ologist" that does is not directly preceded by "uf-" or "cryptozo-".
2nd line.

Originally posted by shaneR
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh

 

hi Lemon.Fresh...

+ thanks for that,
it was good to laugh again...

star for your effort...

seeya

Thank you, friend Glad I could assist in the exercising of your diaphragm muscles.

reply to post by fixer1967


So you are suggesting that there is some space rock headed our way. Space rocks hit the Earth all of the time. Most are not noticed. Several thousand fireballs hit the Earth each day. Then there are larger pieces that hit the Earth on a regular basis.
Tunguska similar events

You claim that we are going to get hit and get hit hard. How do you know that to be a fact? What do you mean get hit hard? A bit hit like the impact that killed off the dinosaurs does not appear to be the cause of other extinctions events. The signatures that led to the understanding of an impact are not seen at other extinction boundaries. If you mean something along the lines of the Tunguska event, then that would be bad, but not overwhelming. Destruction would be great, but localized.

If there were something coming, then we'd be able to reproduce images of it (clearly) from many different people. It wouldn't be just one fuzzy camera phone shot. There would be many many people making claims for it, even people who would not otherwise.

It would be undeniable, no room for debate.

But, things like that rarely happen. Who knows how many hundreds or thousands of generations will pass before we see anything headed our way...

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OK, now you are just trying to have some fun with me. The Earth gets hit all the time , you even said that your self. As to something outer there going to hit us and hit us hard well just look at history. It happens from time to time. That is a fact. It may not be for another million years but this planet will some day get hit very hard. The human race may be long gone when it happens but it will happen. I as just saying that it could happen a lot sooner and we should think about it. It is a fact, the Earth has been hit before and hit hard and it will again some day. Now you know this and are just trying to have some fun with me. That is OK.

reply to post by fixer1967

OK, now you are just trying to have some fun with me.

Not really. I was showing the range of possibilities for a hit. We know that large objects are rare. I even showed a number of events that were large, that did cause localized destruction. A big object such as the K-T boundary impact is extremely rare. As times goes on these types of events become even more rare.

Your original claim was that

No one will believe that anyhing is headed our way until it hits us

I pointed out that this is not the case. Plenty of people know that objects hit the Earth. Most of it results in a beautiful streak of light.

Later you stated

Something is headed our way and we are going to get hit and hit hard.

This is certainly misleading. Just because an object might hit us someday does not mean that it is headed our way today. Is something headed our way? Certainly there is no evidence that anything is known to be headed our way. There is no object that is going to hit us.

Now it maybe next week or it may not happen for a thousand years.

Although you have not suggested what you mean by big and hard I do not think you are referring to the types of events that happen in a century or millennia on average. You probably are referring to events that happen on average every 100 million years or more.

There is a big difference between the possibility of such an event and claiming that something is headed our way.

People always question the facts and dis-miss them as BS even when sometimes they are spot on and truthful, it's just the way things are, but if i were to believe that an incoming object from space Was coming, i'd need hard evidence in order for me to believe it, which so far on this site, the proof has been so distorted and changed i don't know if i can believe this stuff.

Incoming object from space will anyone believe it even if there was proof?

I think... It would be so surreal that it would seem like it is'nt happening, like a dream. This is the feeling I had on 9/11, all day long it was SO surreal. It was worse than pearl harbor in shock value, because of the location and extensive media coverage. I was upset, angry, awestruck, and confused. I now believe that 9/11 was carried out to produce this effect on a grand scale. Same thing with JFK, essentially to crush the American spirit.

But in this case the cataclysm is not engineered and targets EVERY one, TPTB, young and old, great and small. I've noticed a fear in tptb, one that was'nt there before, they are scrambling, and getting very sloppy at cover ups. What else could explain the spend spend spend policy the US has had since the bailout. BECAUSE THEY KNOW THERE IS NO FUTURE! Not like we know it now anyway, I feel so blessed to be alive in this day and age, it is all so surreal haha!

The old way of things is fading my friends whether it's caused by an object from space, pole shift, or the son of God himself coming down on his white horse. You see human consciousness is evolving at a rapid pace, the ancients knew this would happen in our time.