Reality Defined by Physics - The Truth is Obvious - Only on ATS! The Mirror Revealed.

What do we need to talk about to define reality?

Light is where it starts. This is energy at high frequency. The early universe was in a high state of order and low entropy. Then, we need to talk about the elegance and synchronization of mathematics that are used to create the geometry of form. Then we need to talk about the laws that govern the physics of the universe so that life can exist. Then we need to talk about the inter-connectivity of all these processes that brings this ballet of irreducible complexity to a balancing point of regularity. Before we can talk about the bio-mechanical machines, we need to talk about consciousness in matter. How does matter become living? Before we can approach this, however, the laws that govern the universe must be plumbed. Nothing else matters with our conversation until we get to the essence of the laws of physics.

As stated by Dirac's relativistic quantum mechanical wave equation, we must realize that our universe is parallel to another universe in opposite. Our matter is anti-matter to this mirrored universe. The event horizon between these two represents the projection point of both.

As stated by Einstein, reality is TIME, SPACE, MATTER and ENERGY. As stated by God, it is the same.

Genesis 1:1
In the Beginning (Time), God created the heavens (Space) and the earth (Matter). Let there be light (Energy).

If our reality is designer made, then what process was used?

The LOGOS put reality into form as a story (John 1). Logos is the master story teller. Read the Wiki on Logos. This Word that was used to put the universe into motion permiates the universe as the laws that govern and bind it together. God spoke and the universe is created. Compare this to a programmer programming as the software engages in the computer's back end processors.

As suggest by Dirac's equation, we are on one side of the tree of life (our universe) as God creates the other using our choices to define the other side. God says in the Bible that if any man were to look upon Him, they would be instantly consumed. This is what happens between matter and anti-matter. Dirac's equation suggests this: Changes that are made here are also made in the other universe. We are on the manifest and passing side of creation while God creates the true reality in perfection with no entropy.

Matthew 18:18

"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

In heaven, there are many dwelling places that were not made by us. God prepares a new heavens and a new earth for us as this one is consumed by the other in the end. The next heaven and earth is where this side of creation comes after learning the law of love. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. We must be more than flesh to survive.

John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.

From this point, I pause and consider the next paragraph.

Your turn. Think of your version of the laws that govern the universe. Where do they originate? How do we explain the irreducible complexity of it all in support of living matter? How do we explain living matter? How do we explain complex information in matter?

Since I have explained the laws of God that govern the universe and provided a purpose for those laws, I will review the first three verses in Genesis and then go on to give a perspective on the rest of creation.

In the Beginning (Time), God created the heavens (Space) and the earth (Matter). Let there be light (Energy).

The spirit hovered over the waters. The darkness was divided from the light. Just as we would expect as the universe cooled and the high state of order and low entropy begins to take shape for life.

God created us in His image and in the the image of God both.

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

If we face the truth given to us in the Bible, we realize that we are an artificial reality and artificial lifeforms to God. We are inside His created image on the other side of His reality. We are also made in His likeness. That is, we have particle, wave and consciousness. Let me explain.

These three persons are described by the trinity of creation.

Father - Light, both particle and wave.

Son - Logos / Programming language of creation. Wave to form.

Holy Spirit (Consciousness)

To understand this fully, you must understand partial wave duality. Do some research on how consciousness changes the duality of light. Research the double slit experiment. LINK LINK

We begin life with the spirit given by God in an unrefined state. As we grow and understand, we have the opportunity to move closer toward God's ideal Holy Spirit. This is God's development of sentience, as we are artificial to Him and a fresh creation. We are one person with the trinity within us. We are particle and we are wave. This is matter. We are living matter since we also have the spirit that animates our matter and gives us consciousness. God is the same to us. He is one person but three persons in the trinity, as represented in us and the material world.

To develop sentience, the LOGOS creates a story that we live in. This gives us the opportunity to learn by doing. We live the story, as characters in the story. This is how God can tell us the future. It is already written by the LOGOS. The Logos is found in John 1. We see the story through God's image. He sees us through our manifest image as it reflects back to Him. He sees our every move and thought. This is the work of the Holy Spirit (consciousness of God) and the LOGOS (Programmer of reality). The programming is the Word of God, represented to us in our own form as Jesus (God in person).

"1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it."

The Word writes the story. The Bible is the Word to men in written form. It is also the blueprints for creation along with the law that governs it. It is written in allegory so that we can understand as we learn. The story matches the allegory since the characters of the story are us. We are not so much walking on this earth as we are walked. We do nothing apart form observe from our consciousness. We are on autopilot. Our hair grows, the sun shines and our body develops and dies. Nothing is our choice apart for moving our vehicle (Body).

The body is the bio-mechanical suit that we wear to sense the story that the LOGOS tells as we develop. The point of the story is to learn and discover how God did it. We come to see the process through science and discovery. It is not until we develop our own virtual realities with consciousness that we will fully understand that we are the mirror of this same process. For sentience to fully develop, it must value others and God in love. Love is the key to unlocking the flaming sword that protects the next step, the tree of life. The tree of live is protected as long as we show hatred to others. God is one of the others.

This all sounds crazy until you suddenly realize something: The story we live is mirrored three ways. Our consciousness, in material form and in written word. This is the trinity and you have your proof of God. See yourself for what you are. Look at your body closely. You are a bio-mechanically engineered life. You are not your body. You are the consciousness that reside in the vehicle. God created you in love.

We are now face to face with the God who created us in Him mirror. The point of it all is LOVE.

1 Corinthians 13

11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

I wish I had known your words ten years ago when I began my journey in getting to know our maker. It has taken me years of reading and seeking to come to this conclusion even if it was as fuzzy as the hair on my head.

I have known this truth but never could I or will I be able to use my words to convey such Truth.

As always you amaze me with your knowledge and understanding. I look forward to making time soon to watch the video.

Thank you so much...again!

Peace and love to you and may God bless you in ways you have not yet been blessed with. You are such a good teacher and I look forward to seeing your words of wisdom again. xoxoxox

If I write a story from beginning to end, then yes I know the entire story and what plays out and whether or not it is a happily ever after at the end. But, I've also taken away the free will of the characters involved because I wrote the story. I write what they choose to do and what decisions they make. I can make my characters fall in love, have families, die tragic deaths, commit crimes, have wars, have peace, have blessings, have curses, etc. Is this what your god has done? Did he write the above lines for me to post here on this forum? Would that also make us all a part of your god as we all came from his very own imagination?

Thank you so much. I get ever closer to realizing myself. God and His Word are both so amazing. The revised version of this article is on my blog. LINK This perspective needs to be spread. Feel free to email it out. I think it has the potential to wake many people our of their spiritual coma.

Originally posted by MamaJ
I wish I had known your words ten years ago when I began my journey in getting to know our maker. It has taken me years of reading and seeking to come to this conclusion even if it was as fuzzy as the hair on my head.

I have known this truth but never could I or will I be able to use my words to convey such Truth.

As always you amaze me with your knowledge and understanding. I look forward to making time soon to watch the video.

Thank you so much...again!

Peace and love to you and may God bless you in ways you have not yet been blessed with. You are such a good teacher and I look forward to seeing your words of wisdom again. xoxoxox

Much better than what you describe. God composes the symphony from beginning to end. We are the performers, able to produce our unique performance of the score that God provides. Like musicians, we can play out of tune at times, rush and play two loudly or softly. We can even choose disbelief, arrogantly refusing to play. The only way to achieve purpose, however, is to follow the notes God provides to our perspectives, with our own unique musicianship.

We have the ability to create things that God could not anticipate. Mozart, Bach, the Movie Avatar.... It's all a reflection of the story God tells. Have you ever wondered why every movie seems to tell the same story of the good guy winning in the end by trials and struggles? Isn't it obvious? We are God's mirror. The question is, what do we reflect back to Him about who we are becoming? We know what God's story tells us. What does our story tell God? We are in His image. We can create, just like Him.

Originally posted by Hydroman
If I write a story from beginning to end, then yes I know the entire story and what plays out and whether or not it is a happily ever after at the end. But, I've also taken away the free will of the characters involved because I wrote the story. I write what they choose to do and what decisions they make. I can make my characters fall in love, have families, die tragic deaths, commit crimes, have wars, have peace, have blessings, have curses, etc. Is this what your god has done? Did he write the above lines for me to post here on this forum? Would that also make us all a part of your god as we all came from his very own imagination?

Originally posted by Hydroman
If I write a story from beginning to end, then yes I know the entire story and what plays out and whether or not it is a happily ever after at the end. But, I've also taken away the free will of the characters involved because I wrote the story. I write what they choose to do and what decisions they make. I can make my characters fall in love, have families, die tragic deaths, commit crimes, have wars, have peace, have blessings, have curses, etc. Is this what your god has done? Did he write the above lines for me to post here on this forum? Would that also make us all a part of your god as we all came from his very own imagination?

Perfect illustration:


"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?" ~ Romans 9:20-21

I will definitely share your words for they are beautiful, like music to my ears. When I read your words it takes my breath away as it does every time I hear words from God. You are such a light and I feel privileged to be among you and many others here on ATS. It is like a church to me in a sense. I get closer to our Energy of Love every time I log on to this site.

Blessed is he that will walk among us and shed his light on the darkness of mankind.

Oh btw, I watched the video and I am always amazed and excited when the two subjects I love the most (Science and God) come together in perfect harmony. What a peaceful world we would have if the two put their knowledge and wisdom together to once and for all show the world what a remarkable and majestic world we truly live in and this Universe along with others were indeed created by the one singular Energy we call God. They see it, they know it, yet they have no idea how to explain it. Its so fascinating!!!

Off to share......thank you again!

Love to you all! xoxoxox

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Perfect illustration:

"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?" ~ Romans 9:20-21

This god loves us so much that he became like one of us. If he is willing to go to that means to show us his love, why wouldn't he want to answer our questions?

Originally posted by SuperiorEd
Have you ever wondered why every movie seems to tell the same story of the good guy winning in the end by trials and struggles? Isn't it obvious? We are God's mirror.

I thought it was because it sells. What story do pornos tell?

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by Hydroman
If I write a story from beginning to end, then yes I know the entire story and what plays out and whether or not it is a happily ever after at the end. But, I've also taken away the free will of the characters involved because I wrote the story. I write what they choose to do and what decisions they make. I can make my characters fall in love, have families, die tragic deaths, commit crimes, have wars, have peace, have blessings, have curses, etc. Is this what your god has done? Did he write the above lines for me to post here on this forum? Would that also make us all a part of your god as we all came from his very own imagination?

Perfect illustration:


"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?" ~ Romans 9:20-21

Not only do you use self-proving, circle-argumentatory premises. You also have the invasive attitude, that YOUR premises are valid for everybody. After 1½ year of asking, I still repeat my question: What turns YOUR subjective premises into postulated ultimate absolutes.

The flying spaghetti monster doctrines (in their more fanatic versions), also include commands of not questioning anything, because it's inconvenient for a faith, claiming to be 'objective', to be questioned.

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Perfect illustration:

"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?" ~ Romans 9:20-21

This god loves us so much that he became like one of us. If he is willing to go to that means to show us his love, why wouldn't he want to answer our questions?

Because He is sovereign and we are not? He doesn't jump through our hoops, we jump through His.

reply to post by bogomil

Not only do you use self-proving, circle-argumentatory premises. You also have the invasive attitude, that YOUR premises are valid for everybody. After 1½ year of asking, I still repeat my question: What turns YOUR subjective premises into postulated ultimate absolutes.

I've answered time and time and time and time again. You just don't like the answer you've been given. That's your issue to deal with, not mine. I have a Biblical/Christian "worldview", and I don't apologize for it, neither and I ashamed.

world·view (wûrldvy)

n.

1. The overall perspective from which one sees and interprets the world.
2. A collection of beliefs about life and the universe held by an individual or a group.

Worldview ~ Definition

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Perfect illustration:

"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?" ~ Romans 9:20-21

This god loves us so much that he became like one of us. If he is willing to go to that means to show us his love, why wouldn't he want to answer our questions?

None of us have all the answers but collectively I believe we do. What makes one think he does not answer questions. The answers to our questions are everywhere. He does not hide himself from us....His creation is everywhere for us to see. How is the Universe not a divine picture? Why are we humans with five senses and no more. Why are we so limited? I can come up with a ton of questions. Only when I seek answers do I come up with any.

Peace and love to you!! xoxox

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by bogomil

 

Not only do you use self-proving, circle-argumentatory premises. You also have the invasive attitude, that YOUR premises are valid for everybody. After 1½ year of asking, I still repeat my question: What turns YOUR subjective premises into postulated ultimate absolutes.

I've answered time and time and time and time again. You just don't like the answer you've been given. That's your issue to deal with, not mine. I have a Biblical/Christian "worldview", and I don't apologize for it, neither and I ashamed.

world·view (wûrldvy)

n.

1. The overall perspective from which one sees and interprets the world.
2. A collection of beliefs about life and the universe held by an individual or a group.

Worldview ~ Definition

And as ever, I have no objections to whatever world-view you choose personally. My objections start, when you try to make everybody else relate to YOUR premises, when describing 'reality'.

From YOUR premises YOUR 'god' exists and cannot be questioned, because YOUR premises say, that he is 'ultimate reality'.

From other premises he is a mythological speculation, and from such premises your 'god' can be claimed to be either completely non-existing, or just not A 'god' or THE 'god', and the whole thing can be questioned.

In the present context of this thread an element of 'objectivity' (by referring to scientific physics) has been introduced, so objectivity is an issue. An issue you can position yourself to, by either OPENLY taking an active subjective stance or alternatively claim objectivity for your premises.

(A possible semantic declaration of, that it's part of a 'faith', that everybody are subjects to this faith, is an effort of evading the issue by using a non-committal vagueness. Such semantic gymnastics doesn't make up to a clear definition of positions......

....just in case).


Quote from your post to Hydroman: ["He doesn't jump through our hoops, we jump through His."]

This is as 'absolute' a statement as you get them. You superimpose your world-view on mankind on your premises. What justifies this exclusive elitism?

Here is an example of how I seek God.

How do we live on a Planet that spins so fast? Google does not have the answer so I must type in same question without the we and replace it with How an Atom spins. We are Atoms and.... Atoms spin correct?

"From a technical point of view, this demonstrates a new ability to engineer, fabricate and measure spin-polarized nanostructures at the single atom level," said Michael F. Crommie, UC Berkeley professor of physics. "Now that I can see an atom's spin, I can ask, 'What can I do with that atomic spin" Can I manipulate it" Can I use it, change it"' This means we can now start incorporating it into other structures."

"We are clearly not yet in a useful regime for quantum computation because the spins we are looking at are very strongly coupled to the environment," Crommie said. "Nevertheless, this measurement is very useful because it shows that we can observe the spin of these atoms and then start to understand the physics of how the surface is influencing the spin of individual atoms. We hope to next control the spin - that is where we are going with this."

Man alone has little knowledge of what we are and why we are here. There are many religious and or spiritual books that say about the same thing....just different in their own right to separate and keep us searching. Right?

We do think we know we are an Atom. Right? Atoms spin? This is what we think we know so far. Man as you can see is trying to manipulate that spin. Control it....if you will.

We are basically Energy. When I read about Energy I feel close to God as well. I am not even lying!! Its a magical and mystic world we live in. Only when you really begin to look at the Big picture does it make sense and make one love the Creation/Creator like never before. In a sense I think we as in his Image are also creators. Look at what we have created both beautiful and ugly. We too possess the creative Energy and we too can create out of mere words. First there is a thought, then the thought manifests into words....words are action.

www.sciencedaily.com...

I may not make sense to anyone but me, but that is also a point I want to make. Seek and you shall find. Don't take my word for it. What you find may indeed be different than me. One thing I can tell you is the Word's Jesus speaks and the Bible in general will speak to you in a way it never has before if you just let go of everything you think you know, no bias, just search for Him. Read other texts as well. He is everywhere and will shine his Light for you to see.

Intuition is a forgotten sense. I do not take mine for granted anymore. If you feel a certain way do not ignore the energy from which it came from. Acknowledge it.

reply to post by bogomil

You just don't like the answer you've been given. That's your issue to deal with, not mine.

reply to post by bogomil

This is as 'absolute' a statement as you get them.

So what? I don't have problems making absolute statements, you do, see to that yourself.

You superimpose your world-view on mankind on your premises.

No, my premises are Biblical premises, the Bible's premises didn't originate from mine, but vice versa. I think you need to re-read the definition of "worldview", especially this part:

The overall perspective from which one sees and interprets the world.

What justifies this exclusive elitism?

With all due respect your Highness, I'm not required to justify myself to you. Your driver's license doesn't say "Lord Jesus Christ".

For every movie revealing truth, this truth is the wrapped in counterfeit. All perspectives show us the reality of good and evil. You will find good and bad in all movies, including those made to show the world as it is. We also see movies that show us how the world could be. Pay it Forward is a good example. Illusion is a good example with Kurt Douglass. As a matter of fact, I would recommend this move Illusion to anyone. Netflix freeplay. It is amazing.

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by SuperiorEd
Have you ever wondered why every movie seems to tell the same story of the good guy winning in the end by trials and struggles? Isn't it obvious? We are God's mirror.

I thought it was because it sells. What story do pornos tell?

Originally posted by MamaJ

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Perfect illustration:

"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?" ~ Romans 9:20-21

This god loves us so much that he became like one of us. If he is willing to go to that means to show us his love, why wouldn't he want to answer our questions?

None of us have all the answers but collectively I believe we do. What makes one think he does not answer questions. The answers to our questions are everywhere. He does not hide himself from us....His creation is everywhere for us to see. How is the Universe not a divine picture? Why are we humans with five senses and no more. Why are we so limited? I can come up with a ton of questions. Only when I seek answers do I come up with any.

Peace and love to you!! xoxox

What makes one think, that 'he' DOES answer questions. And IF there is anyone answering questions at all (on theist premises), why is it Jahveh and not Brahma, Zeus, Woden or the flying spaghetti monster?

The 'design' answer is from a rational perspective as filled with holes as a swiss cheese, and it's significant, that it presently has a short renaissance on ATS (it's some months since it last was picked to pieces). In any case most religions/semi-religions can use it (some considerably better than the abrahamic religions), not bringing us closer to 'reality'.

How IS cosmos a 'divine' picture? It can with greater truth-probability be claimed to be a hologram, a mis-perceived 'nirvana', the interference of a demi-urge, the dreams of a 'sleeping BrahmaN'. Or with the abrahamic reasoning method the great noodle-master having fun.

Mankind actually has more than five senses. Somewhat besides the point, but just for the record.

Seeking answers is a praiseworthy, natural and legitimate activity. And the method based on observations leading to answers, is far better than the one with pre-determined answers having 'adapted' facts to 'prove' it.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by bogomil

 

This is as 'absolute' a statement as you get them.

So what? I don't have problems making absolute statements, you do, see to that yourself.

You superimpose your world-view on mankind on your premises.

No, my premises are Biblical premises, the Bible's premises didn't originate from mine, but vice versa. I think you need to re-read the definition of "worldview", especially this part:

The overall perspective from which one sees and interprets the world.

What justifies this exclusive elitism?

With all due respect your Highness, I'm not required to justify myself to you. Your driver's license doesn't say "Lord Jesus Christ".

edit on 14-7-2011 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)

In a context of free speech, you can present as many self-proclaimed 'absolutes' as you want, and the result (in a context of free speech) will be reactions such as mine.

If you feel a preaching of the basically same theist claims, met by the same counter-claims, as constructive (in any sense of the word), it's your choice and no regrets on my part. The more clear the self-proclaimed 'absolutes' of missionary christianity are presented, the happier I am. I LIKE clear positions.

Quote: [" No, my premises are Biblical premises, the Bible's premises didn't originate from mine, but vice versa."]

Such has maybe meaning and importance for some believers, and is part of their premises. In a context of non-believer premises, this is un-important.

Quote: ["I think you need to re-read the definition of "worldview", especially this part: The overall perspective from which one sees and interprets the world."]

Yes, but if you do it because you have constructed this world-view, acknowledged it and chosen it, or 'god' has super-imposed it on you with or without your consent is only important to you. From my end of the situation I experience pragmatically a manifestation from you as a consequence; which is what I relate to.

I will now return to topic, which is 'reality defined by physics', not reality defined by doctrinal faith.