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Originally posted by Muckster
reply to post by Helious
Children are informed about there families, gay couples don't have children and therefore do not teach children, nor have the burden of parenting children or shouldering the responsibility of propagating the human race and before you even DARE say that you do, I would submit, that if left up to the gay community, mankind would die out within 100 years
Err... My sister is gay and she and her partner are raising a child with another on the way!!
“Left up to the gay community, mankind would die out within 100 years”??? This is just crazy talk... do you have ANY proof of this?? Just give me one shred of evidence to back up this ridiculous claim!!
For all your talk of having "lots of gay friends" you have some very bigoted views.
You answer most of the points, which people have raised, with pure opinions. However, you express your opinions as if they are hard facts. You seem to have no room for compromise and seem very entrenched in your mindset which leaves me with one conclusion...
Either you don’t have any gay friends, but say you do to somehow try and distance yourself from the word "Homophobe" (a bit like a racist will say "don’t get me wrong i have lots of friends who are ***insert race or colour here*** before going on to insult and generalise that race/colour) or you do have gay friends who merely view you as some kind of outdated joke... someone they tolerate (which would be kind of ironic)
I can clearly see from your posts that you do not view gay people as equals and seem to want to go back to a time when being gay meant that you only come out at night and never spoke about it to non gay people.
Unfortunately arguing with a bigot is often like smashing your head against a brick wall so i am out of this thread and will leave you in peace... However, you have to realise that gay people no longer have to hide in a closet and, due to this, many people on ATS will have gay members of their family’s and/or are openly gay themselves. As such your stance is not only outdated, it is insulting and offensive. You have, in this thread, indirectly insulted members of my family and close friends. Fortunately most of the people I know do not share your views and as such your views do not have too much of an impact on my family. That is the only reason i am able to just laugh this off and move on to the next thread.
Peace.
edit on 13-7-2011 by Muckster because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Helious
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Helious
I find this disturbing somehow. Perhaps it is the word married that is used or that the two men identify themselves as both being husbands. I think that is what bothers me.
That is very confusing to a child, much more confusing than it has to be. He is used to husbands and wife's because that is what men and women do, they get married.
Gay couples while I fully support there rights and the right to be joined with all the same laws and privileges that marriage grants two people, it really needs to be called something else. Confusing children is just one of the many problems that is invited when you call it marriage.edit on 11-7-2011 by Helious because: (no reason given)
Kid: Why are those men holding hands? How can they both be husbands?
Parent: When two people love each other, they can choose to get married. Married men are called husbands.
Yup, that is so very confusing....
Cause explaining to children about where baby's come from isn't hard enough, now at an early age we should teach them about why uncle sam and uncle larry feel the need to be married too.
See little david, I need to talk to you about the birds and bees and oh yeah, the birds and the birds and the bees and the bees.
Give me a break, leave the children out of your sexual preference and agenda. Let our children learn about sexual preference when they are ready and old enough to understand why such things happen, stop trying to preach it as the natural order of things and pretend it is perfectly natural.
edit on 11-7-2011 by Helious because: (no reason given)
1)Are you really complaining because raising kids is hard? I've got an idea....DONT HAVE THEM. If you are looking for an easy job, perhaps a goldfish would better suit your needs.
2)Children seeing straight couples walking down the street holding hands is an indoctrination just the same as a gay couple is. You are simply more comfortable with the straight couple, and that is why you are okay with it. Dont look now, your ignorance is showing.
3)I'm preaching nothing. I'm saying a gay couple has the right to express their love.
4)Your bias attitude WILL show in your kids. Congrats on helping raise another generation of bigots.
It really is sad how SCARED people are of love.
Originally posted by Worshipadonai
You have to understand homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of god . The whole reason why and how the secret societies were driven to do evil things is because they are satanic and are the epitome of disobeying god . Now its very wrong to hate a homosexual , you have to hate the sin but love the sinner . Sure homosexuals can vote and things like that they just have to repent of homosexuality and not engage in homosexual acts . Be kind to and care for homosexuals . They are under a disease . Do not hate the diseased , hate the disease , and above all hate the causer of the disease , the idiot who will burn in hell , satan , the devil , a disgusting little demonic beast who will die .
Originally posted by Worshipadonai
You have to understand homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of god . The whole reason why and how the secret societies were driven to do evil things is because they are satanic and are the epitome of disobeying god . Now its very wrong to hate a homosexual , you have to hate the sin but love the sinner . Sure homosexuals can vote and things like that they just have to repent of homosexuality and not engage in homosexual acts . Be kind to and care for homosexuals . They are under a disease . Do not hate the diseased , hate the disease , and above all hate the causer of the disease , the idiot who will burn in hell , satan , the devil , a disgusting little demonic beast who will die .