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Muslims are taking over the West!!!

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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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reply to post by confreak
 


they tried this a thousand years ago and it didn't work then, it won't work this time either,they will be delt with.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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Actually you named why it's not exactly good, and actually I made my comment look like "god awful and boring culture" was being an atheist. My bad. They are two separate things. Linked somewhat. Not entirely though. I am all for diversity of opinion, but when the culture of individualism generates a generation of "my custom made religion", the results historically is that this type of attitude lasts a generation, maybe 2, then collapses. In addition I am not for banning atheism nor anything like that, but I am just pointing out the fact that, historically, atheism is good for the individual, but leads to cultural decay when mass accepted as a culture. See there's the thing. I am not talking all atheists. But one cannot deny the rising "atheist" religion in the west that has, in and of itself, its own culture. Not all atheists share it, but there is definable a growing culture under the banner of atheism.


The first part of "boring and God-awful culture" has to do with the culture that's the been growing since after the Vietnam war, and culminating really with this most recent generation. It's a culture closer to barbarianism. Almost like the whole of human history and behavior of modern man was just somehow "forgotten" during the 50s-70s And the children raised afterwards, mostly but not completely, have grown up acting as if its the dark ages. They don't know about the most fundamental facts of human history and reasons why certain things are done. I would go so far as to say they are the opposite spectrum of atheists. They just sort of... glue on any culture they find along their lives, inventing their own patchwork culture and religion along the line. The results of which are a Frankenstein like culture of ignorance and decay. They meditate because they herd some people do it, but they gain nothing from it because they never learned why people meditate. Just lots of pieces of other things pasted together with this sort of hologram religion behind them.

The other group, the atheists, are the opposite spectrum. And I am talking about the western atheist culture, not your typical independent atheist. I was part of this culture and way for about a year because it felt like home for me. It still does when I think about it, but lets just say lots of crap happened that made me know that, no matter how appealing, I cannot agree to it. This culture has seen this systematic collapse of tradition and modernity and has gone ahead and stifled through what "was", taken what works in a logical concise matter, and then abandoned the rest. They, like the aforementioned Frankenstein, have sorted through many pieces of culture and religion to define them selves, but this definition is what they are not, not what they are. The results of which is a generation of atheists with half truths and half knowledge of the religions they claim to hate/disagree with.

The results of the mass production of these groups is a terrible result. On one side, ignorant masses claim to be Christian, or Buddhist, or Muslim, etc etc. On the other side, those who reject such ventures but whose knowledge of it is just as lacking. So they insult each other, argue with each other, and bicker and fight. Over things neither side knows.

So what happens?

Well what always happens. A new religion/culture, whom has a history they know fully, and whose history goes back centuries, enters into the world. Because they have historic knowledge, they know more. because they have justifications for what they do, they look impressive. Because its clear that their family units are small, focused, and work, they show attraction to the outside world. Something about them, in their alien nature, works despite that alienation. And it's as if nothing they do can stop the slow march of their people because they are so better educated, raised, and focused.

These events happen periodically. The results of which are, more or less, the removal of the native population's ways and the introduction and establishment of a new peoples ways. For no other reason than because there is no physical establishment any more. This is how Christianity conquered Rome, how the Dorians took over Greece, how the Hyksos took over Egypt, and how literally every single immigration wave into America has found itself a home in the New World.


In addition. I have found peace of scripture and science. I've stopped seeing contradictions. Even the bible talks about the darkness of the stars being inhabited, and suggests evolution can work. The difference between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2, once looked through the concept of nonlinear time, perfectly allow evolution.
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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That is 100% true. Never knew there would be a post this good. It covers it all and sourced.
Them Mohammads said to me you have to show that you're Muslim so others will know or follow you. They are very forceful and superficial. This religion is the biggest anti Christ movement. The devil must be happy with his plan when he took posses of Mohammad.
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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They move here and have thousands of kids is what they do!

And that's how you take over the world!Their number one goal is to multiply!

It's not racist, it's true!

The more kids you have the bigger army you'll have lol.

They are defeating the US from the inside out!



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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Basically, Muslims have more babies than us, and since every Muslim baby is automatically a terrorist trying to take over the world, we are bound to lose. It's a numbers game. They produce more terrorist babies than us, so we need to step up our game.

Everyone, go make love to your wives and girlfriends. Get them pregnant!! And once they are, move on to the next single non-Muslim woman. So not only will we ensure our wives/gf produce a constant stream of Western babies, we'll also make sure to get non-married single women pregnant. That way, we'll make more babies and push back that evil Muslim terrorist baby movement.

Makes total sense now and I thank the mighty Cthulhu for giving Glenn Beck the wisdom to share all that truthiness with me !



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by confreak
 


what is your position again?

what you posted is true.

but you have some sarcastic list at the end of your post.



His position is that people who think Islam will take over the west are irrational nutjobs, and I fully agree with him. It's just fair too ridiculous to believe that a primitive, barbaric system like Sharia Law would exist in a first-world country, especially America. Besides, the so-called "evidence" for their case is pretty weak at best, as it the stories are either anecdotes (somethings misleading), or single court cases.
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by GodIsPissed
They move here and have thousands of kids is what they do!

And that's how you take over the world!Their number one goal is to multiply!

It's not racist, it's true!

The more kids you have the bigger army you'll have lol.

They are defeating the US from the inside out!


LOL you haven't seen the single white teenage mums then, they have a row of kids my friend, from the same father or from different fathers, the future of Brittian right there for you (chavvy estate kids who have no hope of escaping the vicious cycle of abuse).



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:41 PM
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Where they try it,especially where property is involved,people are going to have to start being proactive by contaiminating the land with pork products....burying pigs with their heads out of the ground,pouring pig blood and offal on the land where they cant build...that idea gets a lot of static until someone builds a mosque next door...proactive is the word



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:58 PM
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Glad I caught the "sarcasm intended" at the end of that......It would not have surprised me in the least to read someone posting something saying essentially all of the same things you are, but doing so seriously.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 06:12 PM
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anyone who had even a brief peek into the koran would recognize that islam is in fact intended for the whole world unlike christianity in which jesus expressly stated that he was sent for the lambs of israel only (in reply to a woman asking him for help curing her daughter). takeovers are in the very nature of islam and they wouldn't mind human rights and democracy i tell you.

it doesn't justify the implications in the sarcasm tho, but truth is truth nonetheless.
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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good! we're all going to have to be diverse instead of one minded fools.... maybe if the west stopped going over there and murdering them this wouldn't happen... if they were allowed to sell their resources instead of foreign countries their population would plane out, but with bombs & bullets fallin from the sky you have to make more kids to have a shot of your bloodline living on!



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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If the Muslims in Britain are really doing all those things listed in the OP, then they should be rounded up and put into concentration camps until they learn how to act like a moral human being (and I say that as a person who was born of the Jewish faith, although I despise religion).

You do not move into someone else's country and start making demands, nor tell other people in said country how they must live and abide by your rules.

If I was a British lawmaker, I would propose a law that states: any fundamentalist Muslim who performs acts of violence or calls out to others to do violence against non-Muslims, will have their assets frozen and/or seized by the government, and such assets will be used to promote peaceful understanding and relations between people from all walks of life.
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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Thank you for your excelent reply


First : Would you please considder to tell me where you found that the darknes among the stars is inhabited.
( book, chapter, verse if possible )
I think I missed it totally.

This part intrigues me the most, as you place your finger on the sam soar spot I have done, but with another explanation. A good one I must add.


The first part of "boring and God-awful culture" has to do with the culture that's the been growing since after the Vietnam war, and culminating really with this most recent generation


The downfall of society started with the sexual revolution that came with anticonception. Degrading more and more over time and generations.

I will add your explanation next time, as a combination of causes that have lead to society today.

Ignorance... I fully agree with you. Peopele think they know everything, but they only seem to know bits and pieces.

Now I'm gonna read your post again and let it float around my mind for a while.

Thanks again !



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 07:40 PM
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Not only are Muslims taking over but so are Freemasons heck i saw a Shriner Mason dressed like a clown and chased after him but he fell why i was chasing him video was caught of him getting back up...see for your self.

www.youtube.com...


All kidding aside i think you just gave racist groups a new number one to hate the Jewish people just got bumped to number two...



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 07:47 PM
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Well it's a bit off topic but ok. If we can make it on topic, I wonder what Muslims think about it. To my knowledge the Jinn might be their equivalent. If there are any Muslims out there, speak away.

The only none human, and I say nonhuman in the sense that they talk about them as if they are not members of humanity, are the nephilim. The bible treats the Nephilim like magic folk in Harry Potter treat Voldemort. They basically refuse to mention them directly by name. However one can tell when they are talking about them by means of what the word actually means. Basically, the "long necked ones", the "dead ones", and the "fearful ones". Sometime after the great loss of knowledge when Rome began to fall the word was just assumed to mean giant, but this is a cultural creation. The book of Enoch, however heretical it may be, provides a translation matrix for what people back then understood the various parts of the bible to mean. Such knowledge seems to have been nearly lost, but thanks to the heretics storing their stuff the right way, the knowledge is understood through alternative means. In addition, people I know to have never read such heretical books like Enoch have come to the same, or nearly the same, conclusion. Personally, that makes me feel all the more confident in it being true.

The first of two times the Nephilim are mentioned by name, in Gen 6, paints a picture most confusing. The bible states they were on Earth "in those days", and then "after". Nothing is given to suggest what this before and after means. But the fact that it is directly before the flood gives a hint to it being before and after the flood. Only problem is, God only saved a few humans and some animals. The Nephilim are neither. This being from their description. They were on Earth, then gone, then came back. Animals cannot do this, and humans weren't able to yet, at least from what we know. This suggests something from beyond Earth came, visited, left, then came back.

This is reinforced by what I think is a reference to the Book of Enoch in Jude 1. Then again, it could be the source from which the book of Enoch was written, considering it was written after Jude. In either case, here, the Bible writes about a man name Enoch who prophesied against them. The fact that Enoch was taken by God and did not die, as Genesis says, seems to bolster a suggestion that somehow he found himself in a most unusual situation. Jude 1 speaks of the Nephilim as something seemingly nonhuman. I'll quote the two parts that paint a picture that cannot be said to be anything but something not human, something more powerful than man, and something not liked by God. But sometimes they mix the nephilim in with regular human sinners. SO it gets confusing cause apparently God sees them no differently at times. But I invite you to read the whole. Because the Bible likes to compare sinners to what the Nephilim became and one needs context to tell the difference.




12 These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. 13 They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.

14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”[e] 16 These people are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.


To my own understanding, well to be honest, I just don't know. There's other parts of the bible that mention them too.

The picture painted is that the Nephilim are creatures better than man, stronger than man, smarter than man, but because if their misuse of these gifts, they have no salvation. When the Bible mentions unforgivable sins and the lot, the Nephilim are what they are talking about. When the Bible mentions hopeless people who do not fit in their beds and have no hope in resurrection, they are talking about the Nephilim. It's fairly confusing, but it seems like the Nephilim failed their part in God's plan, and as a result, they are essentially what the Bible uses to show as the worse endpoint mankind would reach if they decayed so badly. Twice dead, as you can see there, describes humans whom die once of flesh, and die again by spirit. But for the Nephilim, whom have no salvation, twice dead means dead for their flesh, and their souls have no hope o recovery.
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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Is Islam 'taking over' Europe - yes of course it is, they have been trying for 1400 yrs by military force - but now are succeeding through stealth and demographics.


The West will lose, too I sincerely hope that time will prove me wrong on this gloomy prediction, but the signs are that the west is already loosing. It did not take more than one generation for the western nations, which emerged victorious after WWII, to lose their momentum and give up any hope of staying in the lead. I write this part of the article with Britain in mind because it seems to be leading the way, but other countries are not far behind.

The decline of the west is mainly an endogenous problem that neither Islam nor any other external factors can be blamed for. But it is a disturbing observation that the west appears to be doomed with or without Islam, although Islam is taking advantage of the process and is working hard to speed it up. The Islamic predators look at the west as a helpless prey and are closing in waiting for the right moment to make a kill. They are hopeful to inherit the west without even having to fight for it, and they do not make a secret of it. A few years ago, colonel Ghaddafi said that Muslims couldn’t take Europe by force in the past, but now they will take it without force. If you don’t believe the Libyan leader’s remarks, you only need to visit a classroom in a British primary school to see how Britain will look like in the future.



The bombing of western targets all over the world during the last few decades should have been enough to motivate the west to take action about the roots of the problem, which we all know to be Islam. Instead, the west has opted to taking painkillers in the form of politically correct justifications prescribed to them by the politically correct groups. I am afraid that is a recipe for disaster.



www.islam-watch.org...



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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He was being sarcastic in which you seem to know nothing about and it was all stuff that has obviously been said either to him/ that he's found online or on here in different threads in which he is getting sick and tired of people attacking ALL Muslims.


sar·cas·tic/särˈkastik/
Adjective: Marked by or given to using irony in order to mock or convey contempt.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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Well thats what happens when you live in a so called "free" society, they already let millions of mexicans come oer and do what they want why not let the rest of the world do the same and everyone will sit idle by and take it up the tail pipe



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 10:10 PM
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Islam and Sharia 'law' is, in fact, the most serious and insidious threat to human freedom humankind has ever known. The march of this 'faith' is drenched in more blood than any other religion on earth. Read real history about the crusades, and who the true aggressors in those wars were and it is patently clear that the followers of Islam are nothing more than bloody murderers, embrace genocide, and are nothing more 'glorious' than any other conquering army.
I believe in the US constitution. Yes, there is a right to freedom of religion. However, it is a right to INDIVIDUAL freedom. Your rights, or anyone else's, end at the instant it comes into contact with my rights. This means that laws that favor any religion, whether it is how meat is labeled or anything else, ends when the public interest and the rights of others are involved. American, British and other nations purposefully have secular laws that are designed to protect the citizens from oppression, from forced compliance with unjust and unrightful seizures. The adoption of anything from Islam into the way secular law operates (which is based on thousands of years of philosopy, experience in political science, and common law) is nothing short than a surrender to fascism.
In my mind, I see no place for Islam in any of the legal structures in the West.
If you are a muslim and want to come to the West, fine, glad to have you. Keep your religion to yourself. Keep your religion out of the public arena. In fact, if your spouse or children choose to reject your faith you should be willing to embrace that choice. Freedom of religion is an individual right. It is not forced on the public.



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 12:44 AM
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Well. I read genesis 6 myself. The book of Enoch only parts...

There is far more in it that suggest Enoch was kind of the first abducted person.

I'd like to add another part from the bible though.


5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.


The bold part a reason and the underlined part... well THEY ? go down ???

Anyways... Not to get of topic to much...

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Muslims are bad.... Blehehehe beheheh

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