The Coming War With China: Evidence!

reply to post by Battleline


People always talk about a Utopia and that it is impossible... but is it?

Just imagine how much money would be saved without war and how much productivity would be saved if focussing on peace and a one world as Humans.


We are one race! Not seperatist!

We should work together and not against each other!


Peop;ole seem to have some fear or reservation about a one world organisation but what i see in that is a final peace and a final harmony amongst nations...

reply to post by DaRAGE


lmao... ignorance is bliss yeah?

reply to post by Havick007


The overall international opinion of the US may not be presently favorable. But that does not mean that another nation would be so foolish as to make such a disastrous mistake. Definitely not a nation that has only recently come to claim number 2. There's a reason why in chess you first try to control the game with your pawns... Just saying.

China's "army" has been attacking america hard for at least the last 15 years. Undercutting their manufacturing to the point where the majority of household items are made in china. The economy has been damaged and it isnt getting better anytime soon. why not let your enemy destroy itself from within, then you can swoop in and pick up the pieces.

We still have HAARP in 2 countries that we know of and some are unknown. Don't forget our advanced space based technology. We got this.

reply to post by hawkiye



Sun Tzu's: "Art of War" has already been employed; and the evidence? Our debt! One of the strategic military objectives outlined in the book, is to defeat your enemy from the inside. What is the inside of the United States? Our economy. They are so thoroughly embedded in our economic infrastructure, which is our "inside," that all it would take is for China to call in our debt, which we can't, and if we couldn't pay it, then American credit is no good world wide, and even having not to pay the debt, the U.S. would be a worldwide risky investment for any bank or country. That's just our debt. Let's talk about jobs. Look at everything you can pick up in your home. Where is it made? China. Where did you buy it? In an "American" store, and the bulk of those being the mega-giant, Wal-Mart, and Target. No longer would those good be available, but the stores would also have to shut down. How many Wal-Marts/Targets are there in the U.S. ? There would be a vast amount of unemployed Americans because both retail giants would collapse, unable to get their wares at the discount they do already. At the current standard set by the low-low prices, we couldn't even afford to buy, "IF" we wanted to, the same goods, but manufactured by our friends to the south, Mexico....it would be too expensive.

This past year, not only did they having infiltrated and owned our economic infrastructure, they waged a war of economics without shedding a single drop of blood, but they actually physically invaded the American soil of this country. They bought 400K acres of south Texas land that will be used for drilling oil. What a #ing laughing stock we are to the Chinese! Not only do they own our economy, now they are buying up parts of our country, at the hands of whom? Our own greedy hands. What's so rich about this land purchase, is that OUR oil in Texas they find, they will sell back to us! LMFAO. Really, this is just so insane, it's like a parody of life.

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reply to post by hawkiye


I watched almost to the end of the first video. Then it just got ridiculous with all the "what China wants to do."
The reason the Iraq and Afghanistan war look the way they do is because we are using our simple weapons tech and no new tech/WMD's. If China started a war with us everyone would know it would have to elevate very quickly. All of the big targets would go quickly. I honestly don't think the can take us. I guess in case China or Russia tried to attack us ( I really think China is more of a threat than Russia, if Russia is a threat at all anymore) it's good that the military has hijacked all the tax money and our military has gone insane.

The only way I see the US getting involved with any war with China would be via proxy. Through a place like Taiwan, or North Korea.

Invading the US would be a losing battle for them and this they know. The author failed to mention the ridiculous amounts of bases that the US has around the world. Let's say China did manage to attack somehow, the counter attack would come from multiple fronts and will be all out. The US that has been fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has been restrained. In an all out war for the survival and existence of the US; one can bet that the rules of engagement will be survival and civilian casualties will be overlooked.

The US has war hawks (scholars and students of war & strategy) at places like West Point who play war games and have thought up every plausible, no matter how infeasible, scenario imaginable; from being invaded by Mexico and Canada, to invading Cuba. They would be chomping at the bit to execute their plan without restraint. These plans are extremely classified and they take into account every possible contingency.

For example: according to the vid in the OP. China launches an EMP attack and renders the 80% of the US mainland's electrical grid inoperable. Do you think they haven't thought of this and do not have an counter attack plan in place? Guess what will be next? Initiate 'Operation: Swift Justice...' bombers from Diego Garcia, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan will take flight; submarines in the middle of the ocean, space borne weapons that no one knew about, aircraft carriers and missile frigates with the Pacific Fleet would respond in kind.

Also, there is no telling what type of weapons the US military has at it's disposal. Does one think that the US is so ready and willing to dismantle its nuclear arsenal and while it does not have another deterrent? Please believe they have something far more fearsome, and destructive than just nuclear weapons.

The US outspends the entire world in defense and its military for a reason.

Do not get me wrong, I am not saying that the US is invincible, but no way will China or any other country / alliance in their right mind try to invade the United States conventionally unless they want their assured destruction.

reply to post by meggiddo2012


hmmm.... you do realise that ''HAARP'' is only a conspircay theory yeah?

Although i know the installation and array exist's do you really you think it is gonna save ur ass if something goes wrong?

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by kro32

 

The cash cow is pretty much tapped out at this time.

They want our land.

They think we are too stupid to act in our own self defense, with the dumbing down delivered by right wing talk show hosts, they just might be right.

And I quote: "A Chinese firm is building a fertilizer plant in American Falls Idaho. Ironic. China has bought fifty square miles of land south of Boise, thirty thousand acres of Idaho gone to foreign nationals." unquote

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reply to post by Meekbot2000


That's kind of almost what I was saying. But you overlook a very important piece to the puzzle. Why does America need manufacturing? For the people? No.

See, the U.S. Gov has the upperhand. They control the army.

Why do they need manufacturing in America when they obviously would rather have Americans dying as fodder? All they need to do is sow the whole "China is evil" seed. Pearl Harbor anyone? Provoke your enemy until they provoke your friends.

Although if it did come to the point where we did need manufacturing, they have plenty of jobless people who will no doubt rush to any job the government handed them and resources to satisfy whatever needs necessary.

Why does it need money when China so graciously buys it's debt and it can then expand upon it's already vastly superior military technology?

See it's not a numbers game anymore. It's like holding a gun to someone's head and daring them to hit you.

Do you know how many known military sites America has in the world? 5000 according to the pentagon last year.

Let's say 1000 are for development/research. These are the places that you are allowed to know about just not about what's inside.

Then you have the ridiculous number of sites that "do not exist". These are the ones you aren't allowed to know about and definitely not allowed to know what's inside.

China may be in some small part destroying America's economy. But if they really decided to do something drastic like declare war, all they would have done essentially is bought their own destruction. And then who owes who money?

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by Cyanhide
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

China doesnt need to know how the world works, china"s only goal is to make the world like china.

Which will be their downfall. Its one thing to pull the wool over their own peoples eyes by controlling the media. Its something else entirely to think the world media will follow suit, which it wont.

Lol. I like the way Americans thinks that they are better than everyone else. What do you think US is doing by waging wars all around the world? They try to make the world as they want it to be. What China is trying to do is not different. It's the very same from what the United States are doing for a while... (IMO).

By the way, i don't hate any country or nation, i just dislike that way of thinking.

Blah blah blah - all this talk and evaluation of China as though they were rational actors and bean counters.

They are not! - see here for what the small clique that really runs China is like: ninecommentaries.com...

Like an awfull lot of the rest of the world - power resides in the hands of small cliques of very unbalanced minds.

A'jad , Kim il jong, the CCP, the Russian Mafia/KGB/Gov - the Muslim Brotherhood, Erdogan, Chavez, Assads, Gaddafi - Pakistan - and many others including of course all the NWO type societies groups and factions.

One thing they all have in common is that they regard the US as the primary obstacle in their way.

Social systems are not people, they operate according to entirely different criteria - and since the US and the Western world has declined to impose itself on the rest of the world - it has assured its own destruction.

Sorry - but that's just the way things are.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by watcher3339

 

These right wing radio talk show hosts have people so programmed, they defend the rights of the filthy rich over their own families and communities.

Ever wonder who pays the huge salaries of these right wing propagandists?

Since Gingrich got rid of the laws that prevent foreign ownership of U.S. media, that problem has only gotten worse. It is amazing how gullible people are. They thing they are fighting for freedom, when they are supporting the very people whose largest goals are eliminating their freedoms.

When you saying "right wing" stuff ... don't you think it's time to wake up and see that "left" and "right" are all the same bullsh**? IMO that is the first thing the US citizens must get through in order to be united. Stop being divided by your own leaders and agree that all the politics are bullsh** and don't judge ppl by their political beliefs. Just stick together and be ready for those chinese intruders.

Originally posted by cardicorona
China may be in some small part destroying America's economy. But if they really decided to do something drastic like declare war, all they would have done essentially is bought their own destruction. And then who owes who money?

Exactly! I couldn't have said it better myself. If the Sino/Russo/Persian pact was to truly succeed. They would have to kick the US out of the bases in Asia/Eurasia. That would be the beginning of the shooting war and WW III. An all out attack on South Korea by proxy of North Korea with Russia, and China backing the north. With the terms of surrender being the US removing all forces from South Korea, and South Korea conceding to be one Korea unified with the North as rulers. The next front would be either Taiwan or Japan.

So now do you see how infeasible and how long protracting war with the US and the west would be for Iran, Russia, China, et al?

reply to post by fooks


This isn't directly at you, but more the general point of view that i see going on.

Everyone seems to forget that it isn't about China vs U.S.A., it is people against people which is very profitable and destructive, almost an orgasm for the power elite. They could care less who wins. Another thing forgotten is the amount of Allies China would have. American's have always had this general sense that "oh well, we will just nuke them and wipe them out within a day or so".


List of nuclear warheads active/total, top 5 countries.
Country

Warheads active/total*
The five nuclear-weapon states under the NPT

United States

1,950 / 8,500[3]

Russia (former Soviet Union)

2,430 / 11,000[3]

United Kingdom

160 / 225[3]

France

290 / 300[3]

China

~180 / 240[3]

Now it is very obvious that if the chinese and russians fight together against the U.S., the U.S. is simply doomed. Whether they "WIN" or not. Sure the U.S. has technology but so do they. They have way more ground troops than america will ever have, and people that come from a communist mind set and arent too afraid to throw their not so good lifestyle out the window for a war. American's will be in the middle of a battlefield looking for a McDonald's so they can get a big mac with an energy drink to keep them going. Point being the U.S. population, a BIG percentage of it is simply unfit to fight, and would be completely shocked if anything like this happened. China along with allies has more than enough ground troops to over power the U.S., and teamed up with russia and other allies that number jump's even higher, and now you can include the nuclear weapons from other countries.

But yeah like someone said...ignorance is bliss.

TPTB don't care about the U.S. getting attacked or china getting attacked. They don't even care about the outcome because either way they will still pull the strings in the new world order. A war of this magnitude is exactly what their plan calls for. So quit hiding behind your nukes and thinking that everything is alright.

There are no winner's in war. This is just a way to setup a one world government. History will repeat itself. Just like the League of Nations, and the U.N., after a war of this magnitude they will bring in another branch meant for stopping wars like this from ever happening again.

Anyway maybe china may do something like this in the far unforeseeable future. Who knows? But come on dude. Seriously? 2017?

But I guarantee that this may happen in 2017...

America gets tired of owing people money and nations stop buying America's debt. Americans are getting pissed because they are the only ones putting forth any substantial effort to help other countries. America starts "helping" in places to piss China off and provoke them. China is provoked and doesn't like America creeping on them so they do something rash like along the lines of a pearl harbor kind of event. Americans get pissed. Americans retaliate. Big chunk of the American debt gone plus profits from the war...

Wait isn't that almost exactly why pearl harbor happened in the first place so that America could profit from WW2?

China can start a war if they so desire, but they know better. The technology that the United States possesses in the ultra top secret black world would decimate their country quickly. We have weapons beyond imagination and the United States has firmly established a breakaway high-tech shadow society here on Earth that is guiding every step of our technological development to ensure that they are always 100 steps ahead of the public civilian tech...

Originally posted by DJM8507
China can start a war if they so desire, but they know better. The technology that the United States possesses in the ultra top secret black world would decimate their country quickly. We have weapons beyond imagination and the United States has firmly established a breakaway high-tech shadow society here on Earth that is guiding every step of our technological development to ensure that they are always 100 steps ahead of the public civilian tech...

I wonder if China could have this kind of technology too? Who knows? What are the "weapons beyond imagination" that no other country could have had developped in secret too? Maybe they have more than you could think of.

Stop thinking that only Americans have brains. All (eer, most of..) human beings are endowed with a brain and know how to use it, not only Americans.

reply to post by majesticgent


Precisely. And I guarantee that exact scenario has been played out in some tactical and strategic chess-like game between west point's and vmi's most brilliant students