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What Are We Capable Of - THIS IS ANONYMOUS!

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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 10:18 PM
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I guess Anonymous and other groups Anonops, Lulzboat, lulzsec and many others really need to be looked into further. I recently seen several things that made me scratch my head a few times. And it started I guess when I went on a search for the many hacker groups out there posting data from websites and trying to see there links to what group. You see the infighting and posting of identities of memebers on Pastebins and anonpads and wonder who is fighting who and are they now feds? And I know of one fed who seems to be at the top. He even calls himself Prosec the fighters against Antisec. His name would be Joesph Black. He says he was picked to fight the Antisec movement. Joe K Black is BlackandBerg secruity. I first noticed him when I seen a topic I thought ATS would be interested in. A hacker by the name Abhaxas hacked into the Florida voting system and posted names and passwords of the election officals in Florida. He also posted credit card info and other things from the 311 databases that were tied to the box he hacked. Heres a quote from him.



Abhaxasabhaxas
@Cyber_War_News that would be a long paper.. the gov box i got into had access to 311 databases. I'm pasting info from 2 so far
3 Jul




Abhaxasabhaxas
@Cyber_War_News It's not just Florida.. you could pick any state at random and get the same results
3 Jul




Abhaxasabhaxas
WARNING TO: @JosephKBlack your website is down #CleanHouse
3 Jul


Then comes Joe Black.



JosephKBlackJoe Black ? Genuine
by Abhaxas
@Abhaxas Get this man some beer! ASAfreakingP He's going on a hacking rampage! ~Joe Black t.co...
3 Jul




JosephKBlackJoe Black ? Genuine
by Abhaxas
@Abhaxas You hacked the Florida voter DB? Kudos, nicely done. To you my glass rises. Just leave blackandberg.com alone for a while will ya?
3 Jul


I think this is fake and is simply a boss chatting with his employee. There joking around with each other after making post on the internet about hacking a database.Heres some more later on.



Abhaxasabhaxas
#Florida is awesome guys, they cleaned up their act the other day t.co...
7 Jul


So seems Abhaxas was a security tester and even cheered them on for fixing what he pointed out to them was wrong. I think his boss Joe Black was using the leaks to gain friends in Anon for tracking purposes.



@JosephKBlackJoe Black ? Genuine
WARNING TO: @LulzSec @atopiary @AnonymousIRC @Anon_Central @YourAnonNews @anonymouSabu Joe Black has infiltrated your hierarchy. #CleanHouse
3 Julvia web


Then theres Anonops they were targeted by Teampoison and Teampoison said they were going to release they data on all these hackers out there causing problems.



TeaMp0isoN_TriCk
im not going to tweet until iv hacked AnonOPs - pce -
27 Jun




TeaMp0isoN_TriCk
Actions speak louder then words. - new zine: t.co... #AnonOps IRC Opers Owned -
6 Jul




TeaMp0isoN_TriCk
Anon/Lulzsec hype is over, you wont hear from us anymore, unless we do something public #TeaMp0isoN - #Salute all the supporters .. -pce-
6 Jul


So they released there names and everything. Hes a great hacker and one of the good guys right? Im not to sure about that.

www.infosecwreck.com...



LulzSec Group Members Named?
June 7th, 2011 d1g1tal3nvy
In a very recent post on Twitter (about an hour ago), Backtracesec names the members of LulzSec. I can’t and haven’t verified the accuracy, but Backtracesec has at least two of the former members of a hacking group known as “Anonymous”. The two former members are Metric and A5h3r4. Backtracesec tweeted the following:


Topiary (already arrested and known to Law Enforcement)

Corey Barnhill -aka (Kayla)

Hector Xavier Montsegur -aka Xavier de Leon -aka (Sabu)

Chris Ellison -aka (Avunit)

Soloman Saleh -aka (Tflow)


And thats not the first article. Try this March 18.

gawker.com...

They were all outed long befor Teampoison even started posting.
Team poison started posting June 18th.



TeaMp0isoN_TriCk
Too much kids running around, i guess we need to step in . . . #TeaMp0isoN
18 Jun


And how about this from Joesph K Black.Remeber him.



JosephKBlackJoe Black ✔ Genuine
BREAKING NEWS: Black & Berg's Intelligence Analysts expose Hackers Team Poison as a manufactured foe -> t.co... blackandberg.com
4 hours ago


Just to remind you of who he is.



Joe Black ✔ Genuine
@JosephKBlack Omaha, NE
Director of Operations at US PRIVATE SECTOR CYBER COMMAND. We fight via land, sea, air, space, and now Cyberspace. b076aca400090a4b3849811861495adf
www.blackbergsecurity.us...


So is this whole thing made up for a agenda not being spoken about?
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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

Originally posted by Conciliatore

It require a brain


Obviously, can't argue with that, and I hereby rest my case.




I read the first two pages and this last page. I really have no idea what is going on here, but that made me laugh.

Star for you FF



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by b3l13v3
reply to post by Evanzsayz
 


I'm unaware of the last time a 12 year old compromised an entire security agencies network.



I must of missed that after the boring news channels talking about them



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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Is there any possible chance of stealth within the internet?

What can be accomplished in this medium.

Who created it?

Down Right Silly I Say- but wishful- entertainment



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by crystalbeing
Anonymous is not a group or entity. It is not you, nor me or any single person. Anonymous is an idea. Those who identify themselves with Anonymous share the common idea of freedom and a world free of oppression. Anything that stands between the people and these freedoms is target to severe scrutiny and activism.

Many misconceptions of Anonymous have been fed to you by the mainstream media and governments around the world. Be assured, we are here to help. We are here to stand up against those who violate your rights as a living breathing human. Freedom of thought, speech, expression, beliefs...freedom to choose how you want to live your life.

Anonymous is everywhere. We are your neighbors, friends, colleagues, relatives. We are your mailmen, barbers, store clerks and lawyers. In a world where corruption hides it's face around every corner, Anonymous is there to meet it with force.

The system is a tool to keep you oppressed and dependent. Anonymous is the key to your freedom. Join us as we carry out THE PLAN. A year divided into three phases meant to strengthen yourself and the resistance as we become a movement to be reckoned with.We Are Anonymous.

We are anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
We are here to help.
Expect us.

whatis-theplan.org


Your in anonymous?....obviously not or you wouldnt be admiting to it on a website. Where did you copy and paste that from?



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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How are we ever going to stand up for truth and justice if we're paralyzed by fear and mistrust?
For the record I went to their site and signed up too.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 10:36 PM
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Didn't know being a Marine sniper required some sort of tech degree, quite the over achiever aren't you? Last time I checked hacking the US Senate and CIA required a little more knowledge than your average script kiddie. Sure they have some "members" who are just little punks going around defacing crap, but many of them have their minds in the right place.

In MY professional opinion this group is as dangerous as the hype claims. It isn't always about what they are directly capable of, it's also about the audience they reach. You're thinking too small, obviously they have limits to what they can and cannot do as far as breaching secured networks and extracting information goes, but I believe that very soon anonymous will not have to go through all the trouble of hacking their way to information. I believe that sooner, rather than later, they will have documents leaked to them from supporters.(Imagine wikileaks on coc aine.) You don't have to be a super incredible god like hacktivist group to make a change, all you need is an audience and dedicated members. Anonymous has reached the national media more times than I can remember, and many of their members would go to jail for what they are fighting for. In my eyes all the pieces are in place.

Those of you who decide to spit on them, go right ahead, that is certainly your right. Before you decide to take that stance however, ask yourself: "What am I doing to change things?"


Edit: If you do decide to support them (and/or possibly partake in some of the less than legal activities they may or may not be carrying out), be smart about it. Realize that they definitely have the government's eyes and ears and also realize the risk you run if you decide to sign up and "fight the good fight". Educate yourselves on keeping your anonymity. If you just run out and try to be some hero with guns drawn you will get cooked, be careful.
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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 10:57 PM
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Anon are stupid. They're hypocritical losers from that trash heap 4-Chan. Bill Maher? Liberal loons.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 11:00 PM
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Thanks TragedyandHope2 for this info/video.

It brought tears to my eyes to see good people rising up against the daily injustices,of which most of us feel powerless to stop.
Organizations like this give me hope that we can band together & create the positive change our world needs.

s&f this.

edit on 10-7-2011 by jewells because: grammar



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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Do you have an argument for your claim or do you just randomly spout off negatively about everything you're ignorant to?

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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 11:09 PM
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Hi again ATS, I think this is a great, great thread first of all so thank you for putting it up. I've read most of the comments before mine and I have to say these Anonymous guys are very, very, smart and they are protesting without violence which people should learn from. I agree things need to change and they have a right to protest and the gov. is pissed because there the target. They are very strategical and I would feel bad if anything happen to these guys in the future. If the government finds out these people's true identity they will be buried under the jail. There videos are very deep and wonderful and I hope they can provide us with change. They are revolutionists and good luck to them.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 11:10 PM
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Anonymous is great

I've supported and helped out on many many occasions...


antisec is where it's at



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 11:13 PM
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That was my whole point. We need a new currency system. So again, I say destroy the banks.

How would that ruin people's lives? Wouldn't it help get them out of the typical routine. Neighbors for once would start helping each other out, rather than nit-picking them because of what materials they own or by how bad of a shape someone's home is.

Mother Earth belongs to everyone, for free. Everything we have today has come from Earth, meaning it should be shared, not hoarded so there is nothing left, forcing others to work for them in order to buy it.

Again, and let me stress this. This is my opinion, and just an idea. Like I repeated twice in the post, it was a lot of assuming and I never once said it would ever work. I was hoping someone would help improve it and expand. Why doesn't anyone want to help each other out these days? Instead we just bash each other. If we want change, we need to start by stopping with the judging and debating.

I bet if I made a thread about how nice world peace would be, I would get a ton of replies debating it. Then they would debate, that they are not debating each other. I've seen it too many times on here to count.

PS: I am not directing this at any one individual.

PPS: I am friends with almost my entire neighborhood. If I am out cutting my grass one day, and I get done and am not tired and notice a neighbors grass is overgrown. I walk on over and cut it for them. They also do the same for me. One day I went outside and two of my neighbors were fixing my fence around my house. Now that's what I call peace and love. Sharing



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 11:15 PM
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Two wrong's don't make a right. So yes they are hypocrites. This kind of behavior will only bring more restrictions and or further violation of our privacy. Go up against the elite? Ha! Good luck with that one. These people have no idea who they're messing with. Good luck hacking your way out of a prison cell getting raped or getting killed.

Education is the way, hypocritical living is not. Breaking laws is not. They are hypocrites and do nothing to better our world. They serve only their own agenda. Anyone that is so naive to believe in what they do are going to be disappointed. You have to grow up some time. I am under a Constitutional Republic. My nation is sovereign. We are a land of law. If you don't like it, either suck it up or move out! Breaking the law is NEVER the answer.
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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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The vidieo is good tell they start talking about all of us,the people,getting involved and ready.

First if people are not ready for "something" to happen from just pure fact and fear of what is happening in the world then they will never will be.The gang on one corner can't keep threatening the gang on the other coner for ever,we are human before all else.

Second,why do they need the mass's,this is all about the interent,the fight is on the internet.if "THEY" shut down the internet then you do what you have to do,that would be a good sign that we have been put in information black out and its time to walk the walk.........................don't you think?

The hackers(Anon) are the weapon right now,just sit back and see what they can do.just my opinion.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by theskipper00

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Anon is an e-terrorist organization bent on deterring internet freedom and force Obama to use his Internet Kill switch

I hate these people


This just needs to be repeated. Anon will give the administration ALL the ammo it needs to enforce draconian rule on the internet.
everyone is scared the govt. Will step in and take away the internet...well if they do then everyone needs to join in and stop these atrocities ...this treason wake up folks....my first reply...cool


haha, I've had only a couple replies as well, welcome. As far as your post, humans most primal emotion is fear. What better way to control the populous and get them to do and think what you want then fear. It's been done in the past, and will be done in the future. In this case, I have no clue.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by Nobama
reply to post by ModernAcademia
 


What? dont embrace ignorance, just because Anon doesn't abide by the Government DOES NOT make them terrorist...


When they attack businesses, the consumers are the collateral damage. It's especially bad when they attack banks. What if you grandmother's mortgage payment can't be made because Anonymous script kiddies have killed access to their transactions?

Anonymous is a bunch of whiny children (that's not the word I wanted to use, BTW, but I'm abiding by the T&C) that have no care as to who they hurt or how. If I ever come face-to-face with someone that admits to being a part of that terrorist organization I'll beat them senseless with their own left leg.

/TOA



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 11:52 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Anon is an e-terrorist organization bent on deterring internet freedom and force Obama to use his Internet Kill switch

I hate these people


Well then you obviously have no idea of what Anonymous is, or you are just a troll. If you actually think Obama and the PTB will clamp down on our freedoms just because of Anonymous ask yourself this...

If there was no Anonymous do you actually think they wouldn't find a reason to infringe upon your rights to free speech as well as mine? If you want to invade a country what do you do? make a story up, find an excuse like weapons of mass destruction "do not exist" and they WILL I assure you, strip you of your rights to even breathe sooner or later. Instead of sitting in your arm chair hating, Anonymous is actually stepping up to the plate and fighting back. And if and when you are sitting in your arm chair years from now you will look back and remember you did nothing! All the while you serve THEM in your submission to complacency.


Anonymous fights for your freedom to even be a hater and a troll even...

Your Welcome


Originally posted by soaringhawk
Anon are stupid. They're hypocritical losers from that trash heap 4-Chan. Bill Maher? Liberal loons.


Well i see you are trolling, your hating. At least the trolls and script kiddies on /b/ know how to troll with some originality. And those "stupid losers" managed to shut down some of the most secure gov web sites, expose a cult, expose dirty politicians ect. Hardly stupid or hypocritical, in fact genius and consistent.

EXPECT US
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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:22 AM
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Some of you Anonymous followers really need to wake up and realize how much of a joke the group is and how they are using you to commit their crimes while they hide and do nothing to protect you.

1.) Stop spreading the nonsense that Anonymous has no leadership. That "everyone is Anonymous". That's all BS. Anyone who has followed Anonymous from the beginning (before they became a joke) knows there are higher-ups that control everything. Keep in mind there is a website and they do sell things and take donations. I guess that's just random people that control all that? It changes every day?

2.) Stop calling yourselves hackers. Most of you are kids/teens and barely have any hacking knowledge. Using a flavor of Linux and that LOIC tool, while wearing a Guy Fawkes mask doesn't automatically make you a hacker. If you had any real computer knowledge, you would know how much of a joke that LOIC tool is and why the leaders themselves never use it, but are more than happy to have you all use it for them. You are aware that it broadcasts your IP address to the site you target right? It doesn't work if you try to hide your IP.

3.) Guy Fawkes. You even know who he is and what he tried to do? He wanted to destroy one "evil theocracy" and replace it with his own. He was the very thing that Anonymous says they fight against. This is why people laugh at you when they see those masks and hear your "message".

4.) Do you really think you're 100% anonymous on the internet? You do realize that what we call the internet is tech that's been around for decades now, right? Do you have any clue how long it was around before the public finally got to use it? If the government wanted to find you, they'd find you in a heartbeat. Their tech is way beyond what we have. Anyone who honestly believes they are anonymous on the internet is clueless. Plain and simple.

5.) If Anonymous is soo powerful, how come nobody has found out who "th3j35t3r" is? This is one person that has done more than Anonymous and nobody has a clue who it is. Anonymous needs a large amount of people using the LOIC tool to take down sites by ddos and this person writes a little app that can take down any site they wish and it only requires one person. It's hilarious how angry some Anonymous members get just by seeing the smallest mention of "th3j35t3r".

I'm not referring to all the Anonymous supporters here. Just some of the more hardcore ones. You really need to wake up. How much good have they actually done? They proved Scientology is a scam and cult years back, I'll give them credit for that, but what have they REALLY done since then? Go look at the anti-Anonymous groups that have popped up recently and keep in mind that most of them are former Anonymous members. Also, take a close look at LulzSec. This group was made up of former Anonymous members who have now apparently gone back to Anonymous. Ask yourselves: "WHY did they leave Anonymous to do all that then go back?". Anonymous wasn't about stealing and hurting innocent people. Now that's all they are doing.

I really don't know why I even bother trying to point out any of this. The more hardcore ones are blinded by arrogance and will never see how their actions are eventually going to put an end to the internet as we know know it. Nobody is saying that Obama and his buddies are going to flip that internet kill-switch tomorrow, but it will happen someday and their excuse is going to be that it was because of the actions of LulzSec/Anonymous. Seriously, some of you really need to realize that you're just giving them all the ammo they need to someday make it a reality.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:36 AM
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I guess Anonymous and other groups Anonops, Lulzboat, lulzsec and many others really need to be looked into further.



Those are all related to Anon.



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