A one-world government is inevitable, so why oppose it?

reply to post by awareness10


please elaborate what is not reality?

Second line

Ok.. lets begin from the human perspective

We live in the Now - Eckhart Tolle

Time is an Illusion - Nasa 'and other notable scientists.

What you fight against, you create FASTER - Various brilliant minds ex. authors etc from The Secret Movie.

So what you THINK ABOUT YOU BRING ABOUT.

Do you really think fighting against the very thing you DONT wish to create will somehow Uncreate it?

No, not on this plane of existance.

The only way to undo this place is to refuse to focus your energy onto it and believe in it as reality. For that very act will create the reality you do not want!

Originally posted by ShadowZion
reply to post by awareness10

 

This has been planned for years upon years, decades upon decades each war that had passed had something to do with the NWO.

Sit back????

No Stand UP!

Speak Truth and Love and Pride and Honor!

Peace

Originally posted by awareness10
Ok.. lets begin from the human perspective

We live in the Now - Eckhart Tolle

Time is an Illusion - Nasa 'and other notable scientists.

What you fight against, you create FASTER - Various brilliant minds ex. authors etc from The Secret Movie.

So what you THINK ABOUT YOU BRING ABOUT.

Do you really think fighting against the very thing you DONT wish to create will somehow Uncreate it?

No, not on this plane of existance.

The only way to undo this place is to refuse to focus your energy onto it and believe in it as reality. For that very act will create the reality you do not want!

Originally posted by ShadowZion
reply to post by awareness10

 

This has been planned for years upon years, decades upon decades each war that had passed had something to do with the NWO.

Sit back????

No Stand UP!

Speak Truth and Love and Pride and Honor!

Peace

edit on 10-7-2011 by awareness10 because: (no reason given)

We live in the now - No #, im not in the future
TIme is an illusion - didn't it take time in order for me to reply, if i throw a pencil up in the air doesn't it take time to fall. can you not slow down time with the use of technology, can you not predict the position of the celestial bodies through the use of time? so how can something that is such an illusion it might aswell be part of criss angels act.

If time is an illusion and its only their because i perceive it that way, would that not mean that at will i could pause time as it is of my creation??????? ask yourself that!

I fight against satanism and materialism and i have completely abolished it from my life! COMPLETELY!

Neither me, nor you, nor nasa know about the true meaning of energy and reality!

Does not the theory that time is an illusion discredit all ancient civilizations.

They had time, thats how we have it, thats the only reason we have it!

So your telling me that the civilizations who did things that we cant fully understand yet were wrong.

is not the measurement of time the result of speed vs distance

and thus by you saying time is an illusion does not that render speed and distance an illusion to?

as well as the "speed of light" (how fast light travels) (fast being a measurement of time)

I believe this whole theory of time is an illusion is stupid and a throw off to leave the common masses confused and unaware because you could get lost in that theory which in turn can render everything useless.

Ask your self this, if it takes time for things to decay and time is an illusion then is not decay an illusion and in order to stop it is to change the way i perceive time???

that would be the case if i had been given the choice to perceive time, however i was not, you were not, nasa was not!

It was taken and existed before i perceived it, as it took 9 months (a measurment of time) for me and you to be born.

did it not take time for nasa's space probes to go out and get photos of the celestial bodies?

Is it not time that shows me the exact moment (measurement of time) the sun comes up and down?

does it not take time for you to age? or is age an illusion?

does it not take time for you to read this post? or is this post an illusion because the time it took to make the website isn't real and therefore this website is an illusion?

maybe i am an illusion because it took time for me to become who i am today?

Do scars not heal over time?

Does not the beat of my heart measured in seconds not exist because time is illusion? therefore my heart is an illusion because the time needed to complete a heartbeat doesn't exist??

Time is here whether we like it or not! and stop thinking about it because it will make us sound crazy!

Im going to stop here

Peace.

i also know alot about thought manifestation, the only thing i keep in mind is the destruction of hell and the victory of heaven.

And so it will manifest! Over time if i may add!

reply to post by MathematicalPhysicist



why oppose it? one word - incandescentlightbulbs.

MathematicalPhysicist, I agree with you. The amount of stupid in replies is immense so I couldn't read it all - I could not find one balanced and objective point of view.

A a global, democratic government is inevitable, so why oppose it?

You see, most people with common sense and healthy state of mind would not agree with the question itself. Because, it may not be not inevitable at all to start with. Who's to say democracy is a positive product of evolution? Or any form of government in fact?
So far, humans are the only creatures who will elect psychotic, complete failures of men as their leaders - this is not good, it is negative and nature itself will punish us - that is inevitable, that we will be punished for following these "democratically" elected men because we keep repeating same mistakes over and over. Well, that's the crux of one-world-government - maintaining psychologically imbalanced inbred aristocratic families as world leaders under the guise of democracy. This is perfect, because we've already been programmed to take democracy as something supreme and only natural and every other idea as poison. This status quo state of mind is not a product of evolution, but a product of intensive and prolonged mental programming and conditioning, sort of a evolutionary cancer.

Therefore, resisting NWO is not resisting change, it is resisting the status quo. Ask yourself if democracy and capitalism is so great, why would US not simply keep it and perfect it on its own grounds? Why would it see other countries as a threat, if it is based on truly the best system? Because, we all know world-government can't be achieved with fair play - it must be implemented through foul methods of deceit, lies, murder and corruption. Democracy in US is based on who of the two essentially the same candidates will produce 1% more propaganda than the other so it obviously isn't perfect. Democracy is in reality, just an illusion.

Mod note: Read before posting. Don't name-call or troll. Ignorance is no excuse. You have been warned. -- Majic

I've been a lurker here on ATS for two or so years, and this thread alone made me sign up in order to reply here. There was a time where I used to take a stance (anti-NWO, anti-world elite), and I've seen much conspiracy related material, including Zeitgeist 1 and 2, and Alex Jones videos, but I've nowadays taken a neutral stance. To balance out for the amount of information I've read on the conspiracy side of things, I've now started researching the other world, which tends to be pro-NWO.

There's good evidence (Wolf points this out in his book Why Globalism Works), for instance, that Globalism has actually caused economic improvement (and qestionable overall utility after time). Though it starts out seeming exploitive, which that may be a matter of speculation, the numbers have shown improvement. How? Well, though this whole Globalism business may start out reeking of exploitation (low wages), what may be neglected is the increase in wages after a particular country has industrialized. The process thenceforth may start all over (to another impoverished country) after that particular country has been industrialized. As Wolf argues, the standard of living in said country increases.

One may associate industrialization as bearing negative overtones, but notice all that you at this very moment know, and that is, industrialization. The world has changed and is moving forward very quickly. We all must learn to adapt to the movements instaed of so much fighting against them. One must make the system work for them. If a person feels strongly enough about privacy, etc., these things may be attained or kept. I will not say that there are others who do not lust after "control", but really, control is an illusion. We don't have to be "controlled" unless we want to be "controlled". Perhaps, even, one may have thought himself to be even "more" controlled when the states had more power than now.

There's certainly not enough of this viewpoint and everybody is driven by paranoia and fear. There's nothing to fear. Even if a system is installed, then play within the system and make changes. This very NWO business may just be one of the only ways to get people together on this earth, so just try and read into it, not just the paranoia-infused side of it, but of anything positive that may come from it as well.

reply to post by surrealpoet


you are going to be regretful of your decisions later on..........

I have no fear of them, only anger!

I too understand the need of an nwo to create ultimate world peace, i agree with it on that standpoint.

But if it means that you have to die in order for it to happen, if it means that my little brother has to die for that to happen, if it means that my mother has to die in order for it then hell NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will stand up for every single person here to attempt to ensure you keep your lives!


you know the old saying you cant teach a dog new tricks?
do you what the moral is of that - you go out and buy a new one

this will apply to the nwo

Peace

reply to post by Zarxx


There is not one word about extermination or genocide in that book, that is utter hogwash, the typical misintrepretation of something from an aspiring conspiracy theorist.

In fact the only way mentioned to control population is the "birth license" approach, which is only a rough example, and is similar to what china has now. Do you think china did this to punish their citizens for being chinese? They did it because they HAVE to, otherwise their population would be over 2 billion by now, with poverty levels like somalia, 2 billion starving and desperate ppl, with their survival instincts kicking in, causing ALOT more harm for society than a one child per family policy. Please try thinking a little further ahead than the length of your nose...

Tyranny is the way of the human. All nations started with a tyrannical form of government until a minority overthrew it. Most nations never got out of tyrannical control. I.E nearly all of Africa, most of of South and Central American, and a lot of Asia.

Humans like control and domination, not freedom. Few are leaders, most humans are followers.

The only inevitable reality is that we all will die.
Some of us will die still trying to clutch the items we stole, with visions of our victims dancing in our heads. A conscious can be pushed aside for perhaps a lifetime, but often not.
Philosophical ramblings aside, you and I are ultimately surrounded by those things we hold dear. Don't envy those that surround themselves with vultures, thieves, and stolen property.
One world government had a chance when Americans still believed the propaganda and the world thought there might be something of value there, but the world is not looking at America anymore. One world government will go down screaming in a killing rage.

I dont agree with the global concept at all,
the current situation and state of development has created a condition of global vulnerability to disruption on nearly all categories.
You are proposing a linear form of economic evolution which in its implementation will only benefit and serve the ruling and authoritive class that will manage it.
There are way too many variables that can break and end any proposed global joining of utopian hands,
it's very romantic and is even proposed as the way it all comes together in the bible, but without a totalitarian godlike subjected style of living, it will not happen.

This planet will actually see the successful resurgence of smaller communal living long before any global nanny state ever takes root,
the coming wars and destruction created by our current global crop of self serving political ruling elite will usher that in soon enough.

reply to post by MathematicalPhysicist


The two terms "global" and "democratic" do not like each other. When there is only one government and no way to escape it that government does not have to be concerned with remaining a democracy. Why should it? Where is the incentive? No. It will creep to an authoritative model. Which kind is of no importance. We can kiss democracy goodbye as soon as there is no where on the planet to run to.

The reason is human nature. We are not yet evolved to the point where we can overcome the constant temptations to selfish behavior that abound on earth. Try arguing against that one!!!

There's no way around a one world government, there WILL be one eventually. Of course there will be those who oppose and fear change and then there are those, like myself, who fear that the people who run this OWG will be absolutely corrupt and have no regard for the best interests of the citizens. It seems to me that the fewer hands you put power into the higher the probability that this power will be abused since it's inherently human to use and abuse power.

"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

I don't think people fear their inevitable social evolution, they fear future oppression because of past experience.

Have any documented official evidence evidence, "proof" prove something, evidence evidence, evidence evidence.

dear OP, now that you're so amazed with proof n evidence so that you use it fairly about one hundred times in your post, here we go: do you have documented official evidence to prove your points, i.e., can you prove that de-population is not already in progress in the form of carcinogens and modified food, hormones, etc.? btw, your argument implying the poor old rockefeller (hahaha) having no power whatsoever, and that talking bs would not necessarily mean his statement was correct is such of a ridiculous kindergarden argument for which i'm truly ashamed of myself for writing this post addressing you in the first place. i shouldn't be taking your ideas and suggestions seriously at all.

reply to post by MathematicalPhysicist


The evolution of man also necessitates that such a thing fails and burns several times before it succeeds. Might as well skip the blood shed and just go our separate ways in space.

I honestly hope for a one world government, one world language, not because is inevitable, this is very stupid to say, I don`t hope to die, even death being inevitable, language are an immense barrier between humans, create artificial division between people, the same to be said about nation states, divide to conquer happened and was successful.

Originally posted by ObvTruth
reply to post by AwakeinNM

 

Im not living in a fantasy world. Im not the people complaining about the NWO taking over the world. If such a one world government were to take place it wouldnt be so bad. Thats all.

Famous last words from the citizens of late 1930s Europe.