Major Earthquake: Elenin: As Predicted : On Time

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by SatoriTheory

 

Don't forget China. They have 4,000 years of continuous history recorded and they mention no doom planet, no global flood, no increase in massive earthquakes, etc. So, if the return of this thing is such a world changing event why don't the Chinese mention it?

This what you say is entirely wrong. Your other reply to me is also completely false. Emperor Yahou had the same 3500 year old events recorded in explicit detail.
How your post received 5 stars while mine got 2 I'll never know.
Or is it that there are government shills and misinformed mods here trying to derail truth? Yes there are - with their outright lies. Desperate are we?

OP, I have read all your posts on this thread and the only thing i find scary, is that lunatics
like you exist out there
Im not even going to bother trying to debunk your distorted views of history, or your complete
lack of scientific knowledge, or that you seem to believe the old testememt is fact not fiction.
Im replying because im concerned some people take what crazy's like you say as truth and
feel anxious about the future. 2 simple facts to remember about C2010 X1 Elenin are
1,Comets don't have magnetic fields,
2,As you sit reading this 'you are having more gravatational influence on the earth than elenin
will have at closest approach '16 October, at a distance of about 21 million miles....

deny ignorance guys, stop staring these fools

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Originally posted by Skippy1138

Originally posted by phantomjack
It was predicted that when Elenin, Saturn, and Earth aligned on 7.7.11, we would see the signs here on earth.

Except that it's not 7/7............

Ah but it is ( was) when the OP posted. There are various time zones remember..and we are 2 1/4 hrs from the 8th already!!
Not everything revolves around the US of A.

reply to post by facchino


I don't agree, I'd say if this is true that alignments do affect the earth, then there would be lots of factors that would matter, not only distance. Like which planets it aligned to, mass of all those planets together, size of the planets, etcetc.. agree?

Originally posted by nusnus
reply to post by Heartisblack

 

LOL thats just mean now

Ozarks on his head and such hehehe

But I noticed something interesting in his posts.

He wants people to stock up on food.

And it might sound bizarre but a very well known spiritual leader of the Sufi order has been going around telling people to stock up on food too. These people can't even be related I'm sure. So thats what caught my eye in the first glance.

Just letting you people know Terral isnt the only person who thinks stocking up on food is a good idea.

Actually the Mormons have been telling thier "flock" to do this for years. I spent many years in Utah, and this stocking of food and water was always a big deal there. I am sure this is a common thread with many religions.

I have been following this nibiru/elenin info for a while now ... and just yesterday was telling a fb friend how a large earth quake was predicted today due to the discussed alignment ... I was unsuccessful in finding the info I had originally come across but did find this link which shows much the same ... the earthquakes and alignment info is half way down the linked page , also some interesting utube links .... the one with the newspaper article was very interesting IMO

www.signsinthesun.com...

reply to post by phantomjack


sigh - not more " alignment " crap

but seriously - do some actual research and look up the inverse square rule

then come back and tell us logically why you think saturn has any measurable effect on us

If Saturn vanished wouldn't you agree that would have an effect on us?

OK, first I don't buy the E.L.E. Elenin thing but I think some of you are just trying to be obtuse...

The 7/7/11 Elenin prediction that these people made was about a Saturn - Elenin - Mercury alignment.

They never said it was Aligning with Earth.

They can see clearly from the JPL diagram that it doesn't align with Earth as well as any of us - right?

Never mind why they think that this alignment would effect Earth - I have seen no explanation as to why - but they thought it would.

The EQ happened on 7/7/11. The whole world is not on EST - get over it. Your splitting hairs.

If your going to argue that they are full of crap it would help by not being full of crap yourselves.

It was a coincidence right? Aren't there other significant EQs that happened that didn't occur simultaneously with some Elenin planet alignment?

Wouldn't that be a more reasoned approach than claiming it didn't happen on 7/7 or that even though they never claimed it aligned with Earth you assert they did?

Gravity depends on two things: the mass of the object pulling on you, and its distance. The more mass something has, the stronger it pulls, and the farther away it is, the weaker it pulls. As a matter of fact, the strength depends on the square of the distance. If you double the distance, the force of gravity drops by 2 x 2=4. If you put something ten times farther away, the gravitational force drops by 10 x 10=100. You can see that gravity gets weak pretty quickly with distance.

The tidal force is much like gravity, but it drops with the cube of the distance. This makes it much less important in our case. Say you double the distance to an object. Its tidal force on the Earth drops by 2 x 2 x 2=8. If you increase its distance by a factor of ten, the tidal force drops by 10 x 10 x 10=1000! So tides are in fact much weaker than gravity.

So if we know the mass of an object and its distance, we can calculate the forces of both gravity and tides. It shouldn't be too much of a surprise to find out that the overwhelming winner in this game is the Earth's own Moon. It doesn't mass much (only about 1/80 of the Earth), but it is very close (Venus, the closest planet to the Earth, is at best 150 times farther away).

To make matters easier on us, let's say that the moon's gravitational force on the Earth is equal to 1 in whatever units gravity is measured in. That way we can see right away how strong the other planets are; a gravity of 10 means the planet pulls on the Earth 10 times as much as the Moon does. We can do the same with tides; assume that the tidal force is equal to 1 in tidal force units and see how the other planets fare.

So, in units of Moon gravity and tides, below are the forces on the Earth from rest of the planets the data for masses and distances are from the NASA data, The Nine Planets. The masses are in units of 10^22 kilograms (the Earth masses 6x10^24 kilograms, or 600 on this scale), and the distances in millions of kilometers. By the way, the distances of closest approach to the Earth are used to maximize the effect. Realistically, the force will be smaller than what is listed.

www.badastronomy.com...

reply to post by JonU2


Would love to see a link to that info.

It would be great

Originally posted by phantomjack

Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by phantomjack

 

A comet absolutely cannot affect the Earth from that far away, the gravitational attraction is just too weak. Even if it were a brown dwarf like many people think I still don't think it's close enough to affect us gravitationally. The idea of a comet or even a brown dwarf as far away as it is causing earthquakes here on Earth due to gravity alone is outrageous. What's the closest that Elenin will get to Earth, does anybody know? Also does anybody know how far away it was during the time of the earthquake?

Closest: 22 Million Miles. Current distance is I think, and I am guessing from data I have seen, around 1.4 AU? Look it up on JPL.

It may be outrageous if the situation were in a vacuum void of all other events and data currently occurring. NASA has not been clear on the composition of the "comet" and if you look at the JPL models, the darn thing is changing course at 10 degree angles. How can that be?

All things being equal, I would agree with you. However, there are too many unanswered questions, or rather, a void of information coming from Government.

I look at these things:

1. Ancient scripts and writings
2. History of the world, in comparison to the events in number 1
3. The heightened distribution of warnings from NASA to its employees
4. The same about FEMA
5. Why is Hollywood bombarding us with end of the world movies?
6. We can track a bolt in orbit, and it took an unknown russian astronomer to find ELE in November?
7. Why was the shuttle program discontinued?
8. Why is the US Government behaving and spending money like there is no tomorrow?
9. Why the push for one world government?
10. An inbound object that we can not see? Or can we see it?

These and other questions keep me awake at night.

Maybe it's because of THIS

reply to post by guessing


Yes, long read but very interesting:
comingearthchanges.phpbb3now.com...

reply to post by Heyyo_yoyo


Are you pointing towards the galactic/ equatorial plane info?

If so this is quite plausible

Originally posted by JonU2
reply to post by guessing

 

Yes, long read but very interesting:
comingearthchanges.phpbb3now.com...

Thank you very much.

This will be good

What about all the stuff we dont know about... ie dark matter, dark energy... etc could all these things attribute to stuff happening in space that we dont know about? there is so much we dont know.

reply to post by Illustronic


Would the effect of a new large object in our solar system possibly effect us not directly but indirectly like a gravity billiards type effect where the closest planet to the object would be effected and therefore effect the next and so on till earth was effected and more so if there was an alignment of some sort?
Also reported today large storms on Saturn a planet that is normally reasonably quiet in that regard!!

reply to post by MegaMind


My understanding from Terral03's vid was that IF the 7/7 alignment showed some reactions on Saturn, then we would have something to be concerned about. He said it was our first opportunity to see how Elenin affects another planet. He did not say earth would have any particular response to the alignment on that date. He has been also drawing attention to the flooding situation in the midwest, but attributes that to human intervention.

However, as the "comet" gets closer and closer, it was predicted that we would get stronger and stronger quakes in general - according to this guy: sites.google.com... So maybe that is what we saw today.

This Omerbashich guy has been referred to earlier in this thread. He's a researcher I've been following for a while (who also seems to have some political axes to grind.) His predictions have appeared to be pretty accurate. He gives his predictions as to which areas will be having quakes dependent upon which planets and Elenin are aligned, and the expected magnitude of the quakes.

Cheers!

reply to post by JonU2


great post - I love to see debunkers being shown up for what they are (which no more knowledgeable than the next man, they just come across as know it all but actually know not a lot) !

I think this goes to show that we really need to take what the debunkers say with a huge pinch of salt and assume they are as bad as the fear mongerers... Deny ignorance!

ovumcranium

"My understanding from Terral03's vid was that IF the 7/7 alignment showed some reactions on Saturn, then we would have something to be concerned about. "

So is this what we see with the once in a lifetime storm on Saturn do you think?