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Evolution can speculate to prove a CREATOR/ARCHITECT/GOD!

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posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by ShadowZion
everything that we can build shows our dominance on the (creation wize) on the evolutionary scale.


Not really, given that each of the "creations" you note actually demonstrably degrades our survival ability, by not only consuming resources (internal as well as external) that could be either put to better use or saved for future generations, but also tends to befoul our sources of food, water, and air.

Basically you've proven that humans have a tendency to crap where they sleep. Which may explain why we're the last slender twig on the human family tree.

If this is the result of a creator, then he's either a sadist or an idiot.
edit on 4/7/2011 by TheWalkingFox because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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quite alot of animals masturbate , yet they do it becuase they are sexually driven.
If your placing masturbation on the same intelligence level as music production/composition
or painting drawing sculpting and dancing then you must also either be really into masturbation
or you cant do anything artistic ?

I dunno seems really stupid of you to say that !



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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Not arguing with you at all, But do you honestly think we only build computers, space stations and the likes to attract mates?

Because all in all doing that seems counter producive since we all know women rarely like nerds like us..... lmfao j/k j/k

Just felt like adding a haha moment



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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In some ways in agreement, if you get some time I was going along some of those same thought patterns over in this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by XJMatt
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Not arguing with you at all, But do you honestly think we only build computers, space stations and the likes to attract mates?

Because all in all doing that seems counter producive since we all know women rarely like nerds like us..... lmfao j/k j/k

Just felt like adding a haha moment


If I remember correctly, I remember reading a few years ago that statistically, women prefer the 'nerdy type' as long term mates over the 'jock type'. I also use my own personal experience as validation of these statistics as I'm one of the 'nerdy types' (I suppose) and my wife chose me as her long term mate over all the jock types she has dated before me. Has something to do with finding security/loyalty in a mate. The jock types are more prone to sleeping around whereas the nerdy types are not well known for that.

But, like I said, that was a few years ago, memory might not be one-hundred percent on that. Pretty sure that was the gist of it though.



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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Flawed premise here, sorry. I simple child's question exposes the flawed foundation.

If God created everything, where did God come from...who created God?

`Answer this question and then base claims on THAT foundation.



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by sapien82
reply to post by vjr1113
 


quite alot of animals masturbate , yet they do it becuase they are sexually driven.
If your placing masturbation on the same intelligence level as music production/composition
or painting drawing sculpting and dancing then you must also either be really into masturbation
or you cant do anything artistic ?

I dunno seems really stupid of you to say that !


calm youself hot head it was a joke. dont insult me either.

i can play guitar and violin like a mad man so check yourself, bro.



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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I believe in god, gods, higher plains of existence outside of our current viewable senses, but I also believe in evolution, I think they can both coexist if you start understanding the true nature of what god is.



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 07:01 PM
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There is no such thing as evolution for humans...sorry



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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I think you're on to something. Something like us, does what we do only much much better. It makes sense to me.



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 07:11 PM
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There is something called the First Cause.



posted on Jul, 5 2011 @ 02:38 AM
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ok so now whats seperates us from the animals , if you can masturbate and play the guitar/ violin at the same time then I'd be extremely impressed ! ( not impossible for us humans ) it's all about that thumb

forums dont have a emoticon for sarcasm ( or do they ?)
it's hard to tell when someone is being sarcastic or not with no facial expression or tone of voice to listen to.
I apologise if you felt that I was being insulting .



posted on Jul, 5 2011 @ 04:45 AM
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They say that the truth of how God came into existence is beyond the comprehension of any man or woman on this earth.

The same question could be poised :


The big-bang involved two atoms colliding:
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Where did those two atoms come from? and what created the atoms that created those atoms and so on and so forth.

but one thing cannot be denied, in order for us to recreate the supposed big bang via the large hydron collider which streches over france and switzerland.......?

We had to CREATE the large hydron collider.

so how two small atoms in the midst of nothing can create something when they didn't even exist in the first place is beyond us.

And i think that has been thrown to masses to stop people thinking about God and self-awareness and christ consciousness etc.....

I remember reading in an earlier post, some of you were asking me to back my claims of pig dna and human dna.

i was slightly wrong however very correct.

answers.yahoo.com...

www.hoshuha.com...



posted on Jul, 5 2011 @ 05:03 AM
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how can you be so sure with out stating evidence, i never thought in all my life i would be defending evolution lol



posted on Jul, 5 2011 @ 08:07 AM
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This is exactly true in respect to there is something or there is nothing. Well there has to be something that came before God or the big bang, we just don't know what that is because we have no knowledge or comprehension of it.

There is only one real truth, the rest is a speculation of the truth. You have your truth and I have mine based on our knowledge and understanding but the real truth still exists regardless of how we see it. Only the real truth can set us free.



posted on Jul, 5 2011 @ 03:04 PM
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God is timeless.. always was, is, and will be.
Who's to say the Creator was created?
I think that's an illogical assumption that skepticism has hunched on for far too long.
Let's expand those mental and spiritual horizons ;D



posted on Jul, 5 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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Hey ShadowZion, I think you'd find this an interesting read.. Cosmology - Ra sessions (Law of One)

p.s. loving The Discovery album photo.. do you listen to the album?



posted on Jul, 5 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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how many times do we have to go over this on ats ,
before humans , there were many things , the vast emptiness of space, and earth , and plants and microbes
for many millions of years , even the early man , who could draw things didnt mention any god
so it was only when man got smart and couldnt figure out the rest , they decided to create a catch all theory to satisfy the unknown to make them less afraid of the big bad world.
God is a man made concept , God was made in mans image .before the smart men there were no gods.

we created it just as we create any other story , before we knew how to explain things properly i.e. science we just used our imaginations , it was all divine intervention and MAGIC !

before us there was everything we hadnt tried our hands at explaining yet!

it seems as though there is an equal to everything though
before the big bang there was nothing , and everything in the weirdest way possible
the ying and yang if it were !
of course this is just my version of events
Of course once aliens actually do show up here they will tell us of their creator and maybe force a new religion on us !



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 08:15 PM
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so you believe that the universe just always existed? Seems so strange that everything we understand so far has a start and and end.. it's never infinite.. but with that concept .. the universe always existed.. if not.. what created the universe to set the stage for the creation of all the sun's planets .. solar systems.. and mankind etc.. ?

it seems to contradict our current knowledge of all things in existence thus far if one thing such as the universe always existed.. and had not start or end... whilst everything else has a start and end. a lifespan..

if the universe doesn't, have a beginning... How can this be?

if it did.. how was it created?



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by ShadowZion

What makes us different from other animals?
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Stanford University professor of biology and neurology Dr. Robert Sapolsky examining :

Are Humans Just Another Primate?


He breaks it down as follows .....

The Range of Human Uniqueness

(1.) Just like any other animal

(2.) Same basic design but with novel use

(3.) No animal precedent


Worth a watch .





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