I Shot Someone

FFS - i go for a nap - and this thread has gone tits up

unbelievable

to all the numpties demanding " details " - how are these details going to help ?

what unit he was in is of zero relevance , as are any other details

running up and down welsh hills is standard fare for EVERYONE in the british army

jungle training [ belieze ] is standard fare for the brittish army , and while there - enhancing border security is another standard tasking

how folks have fabricated the notion that he claims to be ex SAS is beyond me

oh and PS - the incident as described would not be logged as `blue on blue `

having got all that off my chest - i must confess ihave no idea why this thread started , or what it hopes to acheive - budski has been hear long enough to know what to expect from ATS

reply to post by Greensage

because your Demons are talking nonsense!

Ah yes my demons are talking nonsense.



Ever consider doing stand up comedy?

Edit; I am correct aren't I ;-)

reply to post by ignorant_ape


Time to start utilizing that very AWKWARD unflagging option that has recently been instituted, IMO.
2nd

Is this another thread where one guy is talking to himself with four different acounts?

I think so.......

Op,.. I believe you have been busted......Maybe by your own self?

Liejunkie got a little more dumber on this thread.

I am confused, what was the problem again?

reply to post by snowen20


why ? can you rationally explain why ??????

PS - i just flagged it

reply to post by liejunkie01


as you are making sock puppet allegations - i hope you have forwarded your claim to ATS staff

PS - just for the hell of it - please list who you think the socks are

reply to post by ignorant_ape


Because as you mentioned the case went "Tits up"
That to me unless I misunderstood your analogy means that the account has successfully arrived at BS central.
Which under normal consideration would mean that one may not want to attract any more attention or give any attention to a charlatan.
You wanna flag that's your prerogative. Wanna unflag, do what you gotta do.
That is why I made sure that in my previous post i used the acronym IMO (In My Opinion) because that is what it is, just my opinion.

reply to post by ignorant_ape



Training in the Jungle of Borneo and Belize is common knowledge for Jungle Warfare training. So is Selection, and so is P Company training for the Paras, both of which use the hills of Wales as their ground. Has done for years.

Its not like he join the [snip] REME is it? They dont train in Wales on the Hills!!

To me, it sounds a bit iffy. But as I said he is not here to defend himself. Then again he could be a Gurka!! Who knows.

The way the original post was written is pretty simple and blatant for a guy that registered in 2007 and has thousands of posts. Maybe he's trying to explore himself in this forum.

What kind of confidence do we have that the OP will come back and confirm he was taking everyone for a ride?

He began defending his position on page 1, but I would like to see the OP come back and address all of the posts from snowen20 and thebutcher23. Good points came up from purported SMEs.

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by liejunkie01

 

as you are making sock puppet allegations - i hope you have forwarded your claim to ATS staff

PS - just for the hell of it - please list who you think the socks are

Did you even read this whole thread?

I did......I will not point out names......Never have.....Never will...

Just read the whole thing.......

I have noticed alot of silly crazy posts that are allowed to continue....Even though this is the gray area.

I have a major problem here in that my instincts call bs...


But in the interest that there is some truth somewhere I will communicate without taking my initial instincts in place...

(Please remember I have worked in the Chaps office)

First and foremost you will never forget or get past this... You have to accept this... It sounds like your first kill... The human brain is wired so you will not forget this.... it is like sex to the brain...

Do not accept the weak willed answers you hear ?

The cold fact is you are alive because you did as you where trained to do... You are alive because someone else decided to take your life and lost...

The fact you feel sympathy, empathy and pain is the actual signs that your are in fact healthy... The is just about the same as breaking a leg and the pains afterwards till it is reset and heals...

What you have to watch for is becoming addicted to it....Professionalism is the key

The chaplin can help to a degree but you have to remember you will create your reality... with this in mind talk freely with only the chaplin... ( with the note that he must report any active commissions of a crime)

my own personal advice... Their is a simple way to detox... but it gets into your personal religious preferences....

If it causing you enough trouble to talk about it here, you should go to the chaplin immediately.... they should be their or available... try and match to your religion... but take what you can get... quickly


if you are being honest feel free to u2u me and I will help to the best of my ability...

IOf you are not comfortable with that I insist if you are being honest that you contact at least another vet here on the site that is at least a moderator or above...

so the mods know when I was in this qualified as a cry for help and you took no chances... about 70% of the time it was in and out... make a new friend and laugh about it... those other three out of ten... you where glad about the policy.... I prefer this as safety

reply to post by smithjustinb

Do you seriously think that it's okay to kill someone just because your government says its okay? If it was okay, would he be feeling this guilt?

Narrow? The term "self-defense" is apparently foreign to you. I don't condone war, but I think your perceptions are strange. If someone were trying to kill you or your loved one and the only way to stop this from happening was to shoot the attacker, what else would you do? I'm betting that even in that situation, many people who have to kill an assailant to save another's life, or their own life, feel some level of guilt regardless. Do you believe this scenario is murder? I'm wondering if you really understand the definition of "murder?"

Unfortunately people these days used the word JOB as an umbrella that shields them from responsibility.

How many times have you heard a person say "its my job" as if everything is ok then.

In regard to the OP he would of been better off if he just came out and told the whole story beginning to End without the secretive language and ignoring people who were asking him what he served in or what his job was.

In every story we need context and details.

When people choose to use selective language they are normally lying when it comes to something so serious like a death. Those who feel true guilt often just over tell everything due to the weight of the guilt they are carrying and the relief to share it with someone. Its called unburdening!! Psychologist refer to it as a sense of inner peace when its been lifted. But this is normally when the person has been truthful and open completely leaving no detail untold!

Just my opinion!!

Originally posted by budski

Originally posted by Axebo
It is what it is.

Best one - have to agree.

You cant bring the bullet back in the weapon.. its done..Its over..you can not let this ruin your life..Please seek some help..not the liquid kind (dosent help..when ya sober up problems still there )
Seek professional help..

Click here for more information.

reply to post by budski


War is evil.

You cannot blame anyone but yourself, and yet you cannot help but blame the other for not resisting going to war, but then you yourself went to war, so who is right and wrong?

The answer is:

war is evil.

The only thing you can say is this If he had shot you, would the world be a better place? If not, make it so.

reply to post by Scoriada


Money doesn't bring back the dead.

Originally posted by theHairInTheSoup
reply to post by budski

 

the positive thing is that now you know why the world hates you imperial yankees playing world police everywhere you should not eveien be

go back your country, take your weapons with you...

AND RESIGN FROM [snip] ARMY
.

edit on 1/7/11 by masqua because: Removed censor circumvention

I have to laugh about us being where we aren't supposed to be. I'll bet that if you check on where your intelligence services are and what their up to, you'll find out they weren't invited either. Same for your special forces.

reply to post by budski


What you did was right, you acted on instinct and fired on the one with a gun and firing live ammo.

There is nothing in the religious books that I have read that say you can't defend yourself, so your good, your hands are clean.

If that is not enough, try some stress-reducing techniques or CDs.

reply to post by budski


Just a thought, but do you really think ATS is the best place to get advice on this? It's not exactly known as a place full of psychiatric stability!

I'm just saying...If I had a personal situation as deeply ingrained into my consciousness as this is in yours...I think the last place I'd be getting advice is from here....which I don't mean as a slam against ATS in any way....I wouldn't ask for conspiracy news from a Counselor/Psychiatric professional either!