Does anyone else think it's strange that ALL of our GOV Agencies are preparing for a disaster?

reply to post by this_is_who_we_are

From your fema link:
"It is also important to remember that the Emergency Alert System is one of many tools in our communications toolbox, and we will continue to work on additional channels that can be a lifeline of information for people during an emergency."
It makes me wonder what other tools of communication they have in that toolbox. I think there are a lot of rural communities with people who have no access to high speed Internet or television or local radio stations or cell phone coverage especially in rural mountain regions. There are people in Congress who have tried to push this lack of access as a national security issue but of course that would be meddling with the free market so it doesn't get much attention.

It sounds like the guy was talking about the Interstellar Fluff, and yes it is moving this way and is highly magnetized (it consists of Helium and Hydrogen). It is thought that as it passes through our Sun will go out for three days because it cannot burn Helium at this stage, so will sit as an ember until it passes enough to reignite its Helium.

I say this without difficulty because I do not believe our Sun is a fusion reactor. (EUM-Electric Universe Model).

Originally posted by juniperberry
Personally I think it's a monkey-see, monkey-do situation. The Gov's have had to deal with A LOT of people lately who haven't been prepared for ANYTHING. So the easiest way to get people to help themselves is to "make them wonder".

Or at best, they know that people will emulate those who are "supposed" to look after them. If you saw your mother do something, you're likely to do that too.. Same principle.

No conspiracy here, just Governments who know that at least half their populace is not very smart..

How true. The height of stupidity is amazing in the Government Sector to be honest.

As far as the interstellar fluff is concerned.

Is there a diagram or illustration available that shows the position of the cloud in relation to the earth and sun as it is or should be at this time?

reply to post by Skewed


I do know the "Fluff" is coming from the center of the Galaxy way and is moving toward us, so if you can locate the Milky Way in the sky at night this should give you a general location based on our perspective.

It is said to be 30 Light Years across so I am certain it takes up quite a bit of the sky if we could see it.

As it is right now it is "bearing" down on our Heliosphere as recorded by Voyager; the distance is quite tremendous and I have no idea the rate at which it is traveling.

Here is a picture to help

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What GOV agency?

reply to post by Angelicdefender2012


Nothing sinister, just one of those three letter agencies. I probably shouldn't say on here since I visit this site on their computer system. Of course, if they want to they can know what I'm doing at all times. Oh well, I'm an electronics engineer dealing with telecommunications. That should give it away.

Originally posted by Skewed

Originally posted by Angelicdefender2012
He explained to me that he was working with certain institutions across the country in a major project that was to retrofit every satellite that was built before a certain date (date unknown).

I wonder, how they plan to retrofit satellites that are already in orbit. If it only requires software updates, ok, then I get it. But, if it is actually hardware and the shuttles are being retired how exactly are we going to get people to hundreds of satellites when the only vehicle that could get them there are retired. From my logic, it would seem easier, safer and cheaper to just launch new satellites with the updated equipment rather than rendezvousing with it to make the updates. If I am not mistaken, just making repairs and upgrades to the Hubble was not an easy task as it was and was full of risk.

Now you are starting to understand the purpose of the new secret unmanned military mini-space shuttle...

reply to post by Angelicdefender2012


All government agencies prepare for disaster at all times, it is nothing new. Having been in the military the mandate is "failing to prepare, is preparing to fail".

Back in January, FEMA was making Requests For Information about the availability of millions of MREs, blankets, and "underwater body bags". (!?!?!)
I went and randomly found a good informative link re. such.
theintelhub.com...

I remember when I was hanging about ATS back then, just like I am now, there was much speculation of a drill that was scheduled for May 11th.

There is a thread here on ATS about them hoarding drinking water, too.

I have no doubt, something major is ahoof.

Originally posted by DJM8507

Now you are starting to understand the purpose of the new secret unmanned military mini-space shuttle...

Ok, I can go along with that, however, that still does not explain how the work gets done that requires a human, from an unmanned craft.

It just makes good sense to have a disaster prepardness plan. This isn't a Federal Government thing, it's just good common sense.

Something is amiss with the sun. Something changing in near space.

OH what is it. Everything is a mystery

I'm making things up as I go.

That feeling that we have that things are not right, are queer, is normal.

Everyone has it. It's dumb that we waste so much time entertaining it.

In 20 years we'll be older and ask ourselves how we could be so stupid.

Grow up already, we'll say. But 20 years too late!

For anyone who's interested in learning about the Local Interstallar Cloud (fluff), here's a link to NASA's announcement about Voyager's discovery regarding the heliosphere and the magnetic force of these clouds:

Voyager Makes An Interstellar Discovery

And by the way, scientists have known about these clouds for a number of decades. Here's a science paper dating back to 1988 about magnetic clouds, geomagnetic disturbances, and cosmic rays:

Magnetic Clouds, Geomagnetic Disturbances, and Cosmic Ray Decreases

G. Zhang - Department of Mechanical Engineering, Catholic University of America, Washington, D. C. L. F. Burlaga - Laboratory for Extraterrestrial Physics, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Maryland

Abstract:

Nineteen magnetic clouds are identified in the years from 1978 through 1982 and studied using superposed epoch analysis. The magnetic field intensity, proton density, and proton temperature are enhanced ahead of magnetic clouds that are preceded by a shock, while strong magnetic field intensity and low proton temperature are observed within the clouds. A relatively large (∼2.5%) decrease in cosmic ray intensity is associated with magnetic clouds that are preceded by a shock, perhaps caused by the turbulent sheath behind an interplanetary shock ahead of the magnetic cloud, whereas only a small (∼0.5%) decrease in intensity is associated with the magnetic cloud itself. Magnetic clouds can produce geomagnetic activity with a decrease in Dst index of the order of 100 γ. The magnitude of the change in the Dst index for the case when southward fields arrive first is comparable to that for the case when northward fields arrive first, and the phase is such that geomagnetic activity is associated with southward fields.

American Geophysical Union

This paper discusses magnetic clouds that result from a CME (coronal mass ejection)... Where does a huge "magnetic cloud" come from otherwise, as is supposed by the OP's linked storyteller ? Cosmic clouds are a completely different ballgame altogether.

Our existing Interstellar cloud - We will continue to pass through this cloud for another 10,000 - 20,000 years yet... we entered into it about 50,000 to 150,000 years ago.

Taking that into mind, the only thing I can think of is perhaps we may be passing through a thicker, patchier part of the cloud ? Which might have the same or similar effect as if we were entering a new cloud altogether.

Otherwise, I don't see how we could be "entering" into a new magnetic cloud in the next 1-4 years ? It doesn't make any sense.

The Govt has indeed been getting ready for a disater however this does not mean one is coming, it could be the good old saying, prepare for the worst.

reply to post by CranialSponge


I had heard that the US goverment was asking american electricity providers to come up with an alternative or replacement of there transformers. It was said this was due to a "cloud" of magnetic energy that is set to collide with Earth some time next year. Who knows if this is true but if it is this is very hush hush.

Considering the FEMA requisitions, the timing of the preparedness push, the flooding of the Mississippi and Missouri rivers I would say it is quite reasonable to tell coworkers to watch your hiney.

I , being paranoid, also expect some sort of disaster to take our eyes off of the budget impasse and IMF warnings. Nothing like a good disaster to overshadow a default and restructuring the monetary system. If history is a teacher then it would be 10 to 20 cents on the dollar.

That's just me. Distrusting and paranoid.

That is a funny question. It's like asking if it's odd seeing all those people running from a burning building.

Humanity has long known something big and bad is coming in the near future. That in conjunction with the political-economic situation facing the US and the world, everyone knows we are royally boned.

Originally posted by TheMur
reply to post by CranialSponge

 

I had heard that the US goverment was asking american electricity providers to come up with an alternative or replacement of there transformers. It was said this was due to a "cloud" of magnetic energy that is set to collide with Earth some time next year. Who knows if this is true but if it is this is very hush hush.

But how can they predict a "cloud" of magnetic energy other than a cosmic cloud ? Unless these cosmic clouds are spitting magnetic clouds through our sun's magnetic shield (heliosphere) and heading our way ?

Or... like I said earlier, perhaps we're passing through a really thick part of the local fluff that might put a lot of strain on our heliosphere ?

But if they're talking about magnetic clouds associated with CME's (Burlaga et al)... there's no way in hell they can predict that. The only thing they can prepare for is the threat of another huge CME like the Carrington event of the late 1800's.

So unless they're hiding an entirely new science from us... ?

Where would this magnetic cloud be coming from ?

It's because the Federal Government has been running a deficit for the better part of 2 decades, and has racked up more debt than our entire GDP.... the IMF is preparing to downgrade the US's credit rating, and that will mean less outside investors buying US treasury notes, this will culminate in a devalued dollar against international currencies, and result in weakened imports (I.E. Petroleum) which basically Runs our entire economy.

This economic downturn that they are preparing for will result in increased food prices (due to increasing costs in fertilizer, and transport) and thus, great civil unrest.

A BETTER way to prepare for this would have been to cut the budget, however... but, knowing politicians... the only way to get reelected is to spend more money... eh?