9/11 Truthers - You are part of the plan!

Originally posted by stirling
Jeezus! I always wondered what the reason was to shoot down that plane!
That sounds as good as any ive heard yet!
The false flag method of motivation seems to work every time....It was practiced by the nazis to great effect.
Speaking of which, i thought that corporate and goverment mixed was national socialism aka the naziss/
If anything thiss new form of gubermint theyare gonna unroll is going to be a nazi dictatorship.
The old money has favoured the nazis from the start(Ford,Rockefeller et al )
I see a total 1984 scenario compleat with heavy psychological mind cotrol over its people.

Absolutely, it will be a dictatorship, but in a subtle fashion where we don't quite know it. So many people forget that the Nazis were funded by the Rockefellers who now control and fund the UN.

It does vary in Canada, but there was an important decision taken recently not to fluoridate the entire water supply.

If you do a quick Google for your area you can double-check if you have fluoride in your drinking water

Originally posted by AzureSky
reply to post by jameshawkings

 

I was unsure if my water was flouridated or not. Im glad they its not though.

Yeah they wan't to calm us down, we canucks are crazy. I mean c'mon, thousands of canadians took to the streets over a hockey game. Imagine if it were something more serious.

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You should have wrote " Imagine if it was something of ANY importance" Sorry to say, the people in Vancouver that night, acted like fans in the coliseum, thousands of years ago.

Just another piece in the "proof puzzle" that this world is doomed.

I think the OP has too much fondness for the "hopeless" ending of '1984.'

- Kennedy Assassination
- Ruby Ridge
- Waco
- 9/11
etc.

9/11 may have been the biggest domino in the destruction of freedom and murder of American citizens but it wasn't the only one. What about the others? All set to come out the same day I suppose, right? You offer no evidence, just fearmongering. Your post has the worst kind of mindset -- fear for the sake of fear, unsubstantiated, and working against the exposure of truth.

Originally posted by ShaunHatfield
reply to post by AzureSky

 

You should have wrote " Imagine if it was something of ANY importance" Sorry to say, the people in Vancouver that night, acted like fans in the coliseum, thousands of years ago.

Just another piece in the "proof puzzle" that this world is doomed.

The human tribal instincts are more likely to be used against the good of the people in this era; it's a war of information and we're losing

Observer99,

Thanks for your post!

I've only heard bits of 1984, but now I would like to find out about the ending.

I don't believe everything will come out on the same day, only the ones that will help TPTB to get their way. The agenda is that the United Nations are to be made to look like a force for good and peace, whereas USA, Britain and Israel are to be made to look bad.

Will we find out the true reasons behind CODEX and Swine Flu Vaccine? Nope, most definitely not. They are important myths, they have both come from the United Nations(WHO)/Continental Unions, we cannot be told about the techniques that will and are being used to control us.

I'm not bringing evidence, but I hope that after reading this thread people will consider what has been said and see if they think it fits in with how the events around them are unfolding

Originally posted by Observer99
I think the OP has too much fondness for the "hopeless" ending of '1984.'

- Kennedy Assassination
- Ruby Ridge
- Waco
- 9/11
etc.

9/11 may have been the biggest domino in the destruction of freedom and murder of American citizens but it wasn't the only one. What about the others? All set to come out the same day I suppose, right? You offer no evidence, just fearmongering. Your post has the worst kind of mindset -- fear for the sake of fear, unsubstantiated, and working against the exposure of truth.

Originally posted by jameshawkings

Truthers, you are part of the plan. A group has been created, you are a member, currently you are being frustated so as you will eventually be a force for change. You are a piece in someone else's chess match; you will be played at a key moment in the game.

The people behind 9/11 (Rockefeller/Banker & Co) have many tentacles. They want the United Nations as their world government, but they need the people to desire this too. The truth behind the truth of 9/11 is that it's a double-conspiracy, Truthers are now like a religious group that can be used for change by the rulers of the world. When the time is right (after WWIII which is in it's early stages), the United Nations will say they want an end to the chaos and destruction. They will announce they have evidence that the 9/11 was an inside job, they will call for a revolution inside the USA leaving the United Nations in control via the North American Union.

If they are going to announce 9/11 was an inside job, what do they need Truthers for? At that point everyone would be a "truther", and the Truthers of today would be meaningless.

Originally posted by Observer99
You offer no evidence, just fearmongering.

For me it's a pattern of events that indicates an alternative agenda

- Choosing to orchestrate a horrific False Flag attack in broad daylight in a major city
- Larry Silverstein admits Building 7 was Pulled
- Allowing 9/11 truth videos being spread around the net, there would be ways of reducing this if they really wanted to. We all know the Rockefeller's asked for their Internet Kill Switch www.youtube.com...
If they wanted they could ban the videos/documentaries from all major sites.
- Allowing the Engineers and Architects to have their adverts screened on national tv
- Hidding thousands of UN vehicles in the USA www.youtube.com...
- Along similar lines the UN is already creating reports on Israel's recent Gaza conflict, when we all know that the UN and Israel are controlled by the same group of people.

Originally posted by OMsk3ptic

Originally posted by jameshawkings

Truthers, you are part of the plan. A group has been created, you are a member, currently you are being frustated so as you will eventually be a force for change. You are a piece in someone else's chess match; you will be played at a key moment in the game.

The people behind 9/11 (Rockefeller/Banker & Co) have many tentacles. They want the United Nations as their world government, but they need the people to desire this too. The truth behind the truth of 9/11 is that it's a double-conspiracy, Truthers are now like a religious group that can be used for change by the rulers of the world. When the time is right (after WWIII which is in it's early stages), the United Nations will say they want an end to the chaos and destruction. They will announce they have evidence that the 9/11 was an inside job, they will call for a revolution inside the USA leaving the United Nations in control via the North American Union.

If they are going to announce 9/11 was an inside job, what do they need Truthers for? At that point everyone would be a "truther", and the Truthers of today would be meaningless.

It's about developing a group which can be used for change, the group can be infiltrated at the top with talented people and used as a force; like a political or religious group. In the past we have seen religions used for this purpose. USA is now different, instead of attacking a country to "Spread Religion", we instead attack them to "Spread Democracy" or "Fight Terror". The Truthers are like a religion that wants change in the USA. They have most likely already been infiltrated, it wouldn't surprise me if this is where Alex Jones fits into the jigsaw. He gives out a lot of good information, but perhaps he is the man who will lead the truthers. The reason I say that is that he's been allowed to get away with a lot so far, it seems unrealistic that he wouldn't have been assassinated or locked up by now.

If there were an official United Nations Truth Announcement, a lot of people would be in shock and not know how to react. Leadership and planning is needed, especially with a fluoridated population. The Truthers will be ready to act when the time comes!

This could be the start of it

UN Could Lead New 9/11 Investigation

The UN would time the release of the findings to near the end of WWIII to justify making the changes that they planned all along

Are the Laws of Physics part of anybody's plan?

9/11 is at the feet of physicists and engineering schools. We have all this talk about STEM and Education but how does a grade school physics problem not get solved in TEN YEARS?

psikeyhackr.livejournal.com...

Conspiracies are irrelevant. After this much time the physics profession is more guilty than the perpetrators.

The physics profession should have shut this crap down in SIX MONTHS.

psik

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If 9/11 is to be properly investigated, then I do agree that an international UN panel is the best chance to get to the bottom of it as it does remove many of the conflicts of interest inherent in the first 9/11 commission. It is hard to say just how deep such an investigation may go. At a minimum you would expect the hard questions put to Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld. At a maximum it may result in civil war within the MIC. With the amount of global review that has been put into this over the past ten years there is going to be a lot of scrutiny and investigation with everything that is presented.

Large scale war trials do take a long time to process with 3 years not uncommon. It is hard to say if any of the top ringleaders will be able to lie, deceive or scam their way out. I know I would not want to be in their shoes as it will be a tough test of their capabilities. Depending who is on the board of the commission will make a difference to the direction the investigations take.

Thanks for your reply kwakakev

Most will have the same perception as yourself. They view the United Nations as being a benign international peacekeeping force.

Those who know the Rockefeller family and have noticed that he runs the UN; will take a different view. Here is David Rockefeller talking about one of his UN plans. The Rockefellers already run the US behind the scenes, but they also run the UN

Originally posted by kwakakev
reply to post by jameshawkings

 

If 9/11 is to be properly investigated, then I do agree that an international UN panel is the best chance to get to the bottom of it as it does remove many of the conflicts of interest inherent in the first 9/11 commission. It is hard to say just how deep such an investigation may go. At a minimum you would expect the hard questions put to Bush and Cheney. At a maximum it may result in civil war within the MIC. With the amount of global review that has been put into this over the past ten years there is going to be a lot of scrutiny and investigation with everything that is presented.

Large scale war trials do take a long time to process with 3 years not uncommon. It is hard to say if any of the top ringleaders will be able to lie, deceive or scam their way out. I know I would not want to be in their shoes as it will be a tough test of their capabilities. Depending who is on the board of the commission will make a difference to the direction the investigations take.

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But they did not because they could not. Soon you will be raving they put men on the moon but will not agree with your theory.


To the OP


This is an interesting post but I have another suggestion. I feel that the Truth movement is not used for a large scale change but to keep people from investigating 93. They made a quick movie. They created a quick hero. They used Lets Roll as the motto for everything in the days and months, even years following 9/11. Please take the time to peruse this thread if you have any open mind.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

If you create a fire no one will be worried about the smoke and that is what is occurring in the simplest sense. Flight 93 has 3 people who can prove the stand down order, Cheney, Mineta and the guy in the blue shirt as he was first described. The only others who would know what happened were the pilots and if you think munitions cannot be 'updated' to show something lost or defective you do not look as deep as you should.

Originally posted by esdad71
reply to post by psikeyhackr

 

But they did not because they could not. Soon you will be raving they put men on the moon but will not agree with your theory.

Political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union
en.wikipedia.org...

American culture is no different from Russian culture.

Build nuclear weapons to defend capitalism. But capitalist economists cannot talk about the planned obsolescence of automobiles and compute and report how much Americans lose on the depreciation of that garbage every year.

An economics professor at the University of Calgary called me a LOONY for this:

www.spectacle.org...

So morons that can't figure out the obvious when it is presented to them must regard other people as crazy.

Can't get accurate data on the distributions of steel and concrete in skyscrapers in TEN YEARS but we are supposed to BELIEVE airliners 1/2,000th their mass could TOTALLY OBLITERATE them.



psik

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Can't get accurate data on the distributions of steel and concrete in skyscrapers in TEN YEARS but we are supposed to BELIEVE airliners 1/2,000th their mass could TOTALLY OBLITERATE them.

A) The towers were not totaly obliterated.
b) The numbers are in the NIST report, unfortunately you have to read the report first, which is something you have managed to avoid for FIVE years.

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I have not looked into any Rockefeller 9/11 connections but with a portrayal similar to the godfather of America, there would be some mud around. As for how much influence and responsibility I do not know. The best suspect list I have come across so far is at whodidit.org... , with a couple of Rockefeller's mentioned. The Rothschild's are another deep pockets family with fingers in most of the pies, not sure of any connections but any investigations reaching this level would be very thorough.

Other possibilities that may surface from a dedicated investigation include things like the Monarch Project, (Next generation MK Ultra) and other above top secret classifications. Personally I would not be surprised if there are some ET connections going on as the military gets a good shake up with 'What the hell happened!?'

As for Rockefeller's eugenics push, there are quite a few in the same boat including the Gates foundation and Blinderburg meetings. It does appear that the mentality required to become mega rich is psychopathic in nature. If / when this dam does break it is going to snowball really quick as society is going to get a hard wakeup call. There is a potential that some will slip through the net as others are sacrificed. I hold greater fears with the decline of integrity from nothing being done.

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9/11 was a warning sign(from the illuminati?) to warn us that radical change is coming.
11 is the warning sign to wake up, the twin towers were a symbol for economy also (connect the dots).
7 is the last step of a cycle of creation, also the all seeing eye. This means that the creation becomes aware of itself as a being (The collective consciouss)
This is the sign that the creation is ready to be born and will become aware consciously of it surroundings and itself in the bigger picture..
So the hole creation (steps 1-7) will start the beginning of a new creation cycle starting at 1(0) (8 is the soul of creation, 9 the mother and 10 the new begining (as a baby) in the grander picture).
So 7/7 and building 7 might have been some referencing to that

Be ready for the big change not only in our surroundings but in ourself (body, mind. spirit)too.
The truth about excistance will be revealed and we are now being prepared (still unconsciously for most) to discover the greatest and most important truth ever.

The final lines of the last chapter are being written as we speak, Life is merely a realistic dream for the evolution of consciousness, learn to see the symbols and signs that everybody(and collectively) is giving out unconsciously and you will discover that we are surrounded by a force so great and intertwined that it will blow your mind.

Originally posted by jameshawkings
...it's a combination of super capitalism and communism, which fits in with what you've said.

How is that even possible?

Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production.

Communism is a system that has no private ownership of production, and resources are freely shared by the community. (Russia or China were/are not communists)

Replace the term communism with fascism (government controlled by capitalist corporations) and you would then be correct.

Originally posted by ANOK

Originally posted by jameshawkings
...it's a combination of super capitalism and communism, which fits in with what you've said.

How is that even possible?

Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production.

Communism is a system that has no private ownership of production, and resources are freely shared by the community. (Russia or China were/are not communists)

Replace the term communism with fascism (government controlled by capitalist corporations) and you would then be correct.

Interesting point you raise ANOK, thanks for your reply

When I talk about Super Capitalism I'm referring to the late stages of Capitalism where one corporation owns or has control over a sector; a monopoly. So you can reach Communism via Captialism if the capitalist entities merge into one.

Someone has gone to the effort of explaining the difference between Super Capitalism and Capitalism, I've copied and pasted it below, it's from here www.freeworldfilmworks.com...

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1) Capitalism, meaning private ownership of property and resources and competitive free enterprise in the supply of goods and services.

2) Super-Capitalism, meaning a highly concentrated finance capitalism which is not only apart from capitalism, but it's antithesis and which sooner rather than later acquires the characteristic of being actively `anti-capitalist`.

It is not possible to continue to concentrate ownership and control of property and resources without simultaneously reducing the number who own and control said property and resources. Similarly, there can be no concentration of Corporate Ownership and control, without a corresponding inhibition and suppression of free enterprise. What we have seen in the West is a progressive degeneration of capitalism into a form of super-capitalism, or anti-capitalism, which the less it resembles the original capitalism the more it resembles socialism, or communism.

In other words, the weak and struggling capitalism that survives, serves merely as a camouflage for an all- powerful anti-capitalism which dominates both economics and politics. Modern super-capitalist regimes like that of the United States, and communist regimes like that of the former Soviet Union, have their differences and their oppositions of interest but these are unimportant when compared with what they have in common.
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