Special Report: A little house of secrets on the Great Plains

Special Report: A little house of secrets on the Great Plains

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SHELL GAMES: A Reuters Investigation

Articles in this series are exploring the extent and impact of corporate secrecy in the United States.

At a single address in this sleepy city of 60,000 people, more than 2,000 companies are registered. The building, 2710 Thomes Avenue, isn't a shimmering skyscraper filled with A-list corporations. It's a 1,700-square-foot brick house with a manicured lawn, a few blocks from the State Capitol.

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So you want to learn how the big boys do it... hide all there millions, launder money, hide assets and pull every kind of cheap underhand scam in the book... well look no further than 2710 Thomes Ave cause these people will show you how its done...

just how bad is this????

From another section of the story we have this...

linked to 2710 Thomes is former Ukrainian Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko, who was once ranked the eighth-most corrupt official in the world by watchdog group Transparency International. He is now serving an eight-year jail term in California for a 2004 conviction on money-laundering and extortion charges. According to court records, that scheme used shell companies and offshore bank accounts to hide stolen Ukrainian government funds.

and it gets worse... go read it'll make you mad I promise

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maybe there's an underground city there?
or maybe corporations are only concerned about making money and don't really care about their customers, like they all say?

reply to post by DaddyBare


Isn't Cheyenne Dick Cheney's hometown? I wonder if he's connected with it...or started it.

In some cases this isn't really as bad a thing as you might think. These are often people who don't want their belongings and/or financial dealings known by the corrupt federal government. Many of these people are what are called Sovereign citizens.

They use the shell companies to register their car in a way that is hard to trace. Or to keep money from being taken via the tax man. And a bunch of other reasons.

Honestly I think that this is spun to be a bad thing in the story but it is one of the last ways people have to not be controlled completely by the system.

reply to post by Pilot


wouldn't surprise me one little bit if that good ole boy didn't have his hand in that pocket...
you don't get to hold those positions of power unless you know all these dirty little tricks right...

BTW you know me and Dick do have one thing in common... a love of shooting lawyers

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no ones saying S corps or LCC's is bad....
here they are talking about one address that is the shell for hundreds of of iffy businesses...
this story is about how bad things are when bad people abuse a good system

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Yeah there are only a few of these places and many people who don't want to be completely controlled by the government. They are just regular people who believe what is theirs, is theirs.

I'm sure there are some crooked dealings going on there but these are NOT the big corporations or CEO's that go through these places, they are way above this kind of place.


ETA: As for LLC's and such, this isn't the same thing. It isn't really about small business operations, they use it to hide personal details in a "shell corporation".

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Oh I agree I had a LCC when I ran my own business... I did so in case I got sued I wouldn't lose everything...
but any good CEO probably knows a million better ways to protect his interests and assists... guess that's why I'm not rich... cause I'm too damn honest for my own good...

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I hear yuh bud, lol. I have the same problem. That's why even though I've researched these "shell corps", pretty extensively, I don't have one

As for the big CEO's, a nice little bribe to their local government goon probably takes care of their dealings...

So let me get this straight, there's a little house in Wyoming containing the mail of 2000 corporations that's occupied by an old lady who steps outside to take smoke breaks.

Hm. Kind of makes this whole hacking fiasco look very unnecessary, clearly there are easier ways of "exposing" corporate "control".

S&F

Originally posted by Pilot
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Isn't Cheyenne Dick Cheney's hometown? I wonder if he's connected with it...or started it.

Cheney's hometown is Casper, WY, and at the moment, it's where I live. After having lived here for a few years, I must say that I am wholly unsurprised by this article. Much of the laws and legislation, or the lack thereof, in this state are unbelievable and are, more often than not, crafted to support or allow questionable business practices. Like they say, follow the money.

reply to post by DaddyBare
I knew the CEO of Hubeline corp He asked me how much I made and he told me he pays less taxes a year than I do and he maid 10,000,000 a year ! he had a team of lawyers that worked only for him ! He actually paid my collage tuition .The well to do useually stay well to do .The only way we are all equal is in death..and I have never seen a luggage rack on a coffin .

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I got as better sig comment for ya..
LORD ..help me become the man my granddaughter thinks I am.

One time and one time only I made a 100 grand in one year... government took half in taxes and my family dived up the rest... I just don't have the knack...or maybe temperament to be rich???

Um, the people of Cheyenne Wy. only have to challenge the zoning rights. As it is in a residential location it is zoned for residents not business. This will force them out into the open and investigations can begin as well as charges for the deliberate zoning infractions. It's a start.

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I will also never be rich.I dont think tempermant has anything to do with it..Not careing who you step on..cheat or lie to make a crooked fortune..at the expence of the poor..thats why we wont get rich Daddybear..We are far richer in other ways !

this sounds like a cia safe house I have recently read a book about them bu a man named prouty if you really want to know who the shadow gov is and how they work I recomend this book the secret team by l. fletcher prouty it will piss you off peace

There was a bit on TV awhile back about this. The show said that maybe as many as half of all businesses, corporations, and companies may not be real and only exist on paper or in cyberspace. I wished I could remember the name of that show. I found it very interesting.

My guess? Probably another credit/banking skimming operation. There are many that manage to get away with it scot-free too.

What they do is offer something for free or at a discount rate, but under that deal and with small micro-print legalese you end up in a contract for monthly "services" that provide absolutely nothing. Then you get hit for something like $20 a month on your credit bill. It doesn't seem like much, but with numbers of victims exceeding a million or so - it adds up. Yet in the U.S. this particular type of fraud is 100% legal because of the loopholes available for such rackets. I bet there's even a sizable lobby with money being thrown at politicians to keep it going.

Usually such scams are run by umbrella operations. There will be hundreds or thousands of "small" companies that belong to some bigger operation. This house is likely just a postal front, and the real scammers are still located somewhere else. Obviously they don't want P.O.'ed victims finding them, and having a front in an odd and remote location makes that more difficult.

Anyhow if you see anything offered for "free" or "at great discount" be extra extra wary of the small print or any request for credit or banking info. These operations also have enough money to buy into partner programs with more legit businesses, so you even have to keep an eye on those transactions and keep an eye on terms of agreement for things like discount plans. (Is saving $20 here or there worth a regular $20 charge every month? Is that really saving?) Some of these operations also operate off the fact that people will go for something "free" rather than paying a modest $10 fee to their bank or credit service in order to get their own credit history. However like general Akbar said "IT'S A TRAP!"

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How can anyone pay taxes with a straight face, knowing that all thier tax dollars cannot prevent this sort of total trash from comming up?
These shell farms are the exact kind of weapon that rogue business persons, use to cause harm to economies around the world by escaping taxes, and building walls of paper between them and justice. How can this be allowed in a nation where you can get a ticket for jaywalking?