Look Who’s Buying Up Flood Ravaged Farm Land

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Wildmanimal

 

The problem with "natural" and "cyclical" is that we have altered the natural state. We build storm drains, and levees. We usher the melting snow and storm runoff into the tributaries and streams as quickly as possible to keep it from disrupting traffic and parking lots. It has no time to soak into the earth and replenish the deep water tables. Instead it gets funnelled as quickly as possible off through concrete drains, into tributaries that have been dug out and widened and concreted, then it hits the rivers, the Mississippi, and heads down to the Gulf of Mexico at record speed. If the Missouri, Ohio, and Mississippi can't handle it all, we build giant levee systems to keep it there anyway. We can't let it back up into the cities, so we erect this whole system to keep the water flowing down to the Gulf as fast as possible.

All the while, we wonder why the lakes are dropping, and why the wells are drying up, and why the water tables are not getting replenished. We complain about contamination and erosion and sinkholes. If we allowed the natural and cyclical process, the majority of this water could soak into the farmlands and plains, the Earth would filter it as it penetrated through to the deep water veins. The erosion would be less, because the water would move slower and soak in better. The contamination from runoff would be less, because the earth would filter it. The natural floodplain farmland would get its seasonal replenishment and the crops would be more bountiful and nutritious.

Sadly, there is nothing "natural" or "cyclical" about our current system. The floods are just a dangerous nuisance that man thinks it can eventually out-engineer and show mother nature who is really the boss. Then, when she proves us wrong, it is a "natural disaster."

The arrogance of man will be our downfall.

Good points as well.

Mother Nature will do as she always has I guess. And the more we try to tame her, she finds another way of doing her job.

Thanks

The illuminati's biggest fear was the re-ruralization of America.

As the oil age ended they feared America would become rural again, cities would fall because that way of life couldn't be sustained...

China would become the worlds superpower forever.

So it makes sense to stop re-ruralization....is to do away with farmland. Any means necessary. Must be Government owned, Corporate owned...or chopped up and made into subdivisions.

That's the only way they can keep this ship going and even attempt to try and stop China from becoming the global SuperPower. So yes, our own Government may have caused this.

I'm surprised Russian and China aren't taking advantage of the situation up there which may have effected our missile silos.

reply to post by Xcathdra



The Government gets to involved in peoples lives... The Government abuses the people... The Government wont give me money because I was dumb enough to build in a flood plain.

Personal Responsibility..

I really wish people would get over this sense of entitlement.


The flood plains happen to be the RICHEST soil there is and is land not used for housing or businesses so it is cheap. I dont think anyone feels entitled. I think they are devestated they have lost their livelihood and they are no more responsible than EVERY person affected by Hurricane Katrina or that lives in the gulf states in the hurricane belt, or in the midwest in the tornado belt or by the ocean and could possibly get hit by a tsunami.

Using your reasoning, I would be wrong to be upset because I live by a military base and one of their tanks misfired and hit my house. I was dumb enough to build a house next to a military base. Right? I think not.

A little empathy goes a long long way.

Rivers flood people. That is why it makes decent farmland, the rivers flood and leave new, nutrient filled soil on top of the old. You learn this in second grade.

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Xcathdra
Why must people come up with all these conspiracy theories about the government, complaining about every single action, while ignoring everythig else?

Ummm lessee

1) Corps of Engineers Build Levy to contain flood water
2) Corps of Engineers Build Blow up Levy to release flood water and flood the land
3) Corps of Engineers Build buys flooded out land
4) ATS is a conspiracy website

Any other questions?

^^^
That is all

reply to post by jude11


This is all part of the UN plan to buy and/or confiscate land as part of their biodiversity project. I have read the UN plans, but somehow didn't put all of the pieces together until this post.

Thanks!

reply to post by jude11


"This doesn't seem right. Some will say that the purchasing is actually help but if the land is so ravaged, why would the Govt. want it at all? They're not in the habit of just giving money away with no possible returns." Now that last one was a funny line

How can the government be buying anything when they're broke?

Those who would consider selling their land should think long and hard about it.

There's most likely oil, minerals, or strategic reasons for acquiring this land.

I just think its funny they're going to pay in monopoly money.

reply to post by Xcathdra


The unfortunate part about "going to their insurance companies first" is that most farmers don't have flood insurance. Because floods would never happen where they are (unless the Army Corps of Engineers releases unprecidented amounts of water). So when the A.C.E announced the releases, it turns out that you had to have the flood insurance for several months BEFORE the flooding, or you wouldn't be able to collect on the claim. So insurance for a vast majority of land-owners is out of the question. Instead, WE, the people need to file suit against the Corp.

It is whack that no one can seem to definitively state why they are blowing the damns (at least not in the admittedly little I seem to have read). History shows lots of examples of them buying and then flooding out lands to create lakes or reservoirs and control rivers with damns, but this is a new one on me.

My guess is that it's probably because the infrastructure is crumbling at such alarming rates in this country they can see no other choice. Maybe it's part of the new employment plan...to get people back to work building new ones Another theory is they want to make water scarce so someone can profit They've been playing water games down south here between Alabama and Georgia and between Florida and Georgia and even withing Georgia for decades now and usually for profit. Maybe fracking has increased the risks. Or many the weather and climate changes are necessitating drastic action.

Also, I heard from a friend out west that they may be planning more damn blowing out west, specifically the Colorado River? So who the hell knows what's really going on here.

And to those saying these people should have "known" better and espousing "personal responsibility?" I might normally agree with the sentiment but think you're really off the mark in this case. Sure, damns bursting and flooding people out is a risk, but this drastic and dramatic a solution in so many places to this "possible" or "potential" threat is whack too...unless they know something most of us don't?

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by jude11

 

Your ability to fear monger and misrepresent facts just continues to astonish. The FEderal Government offering to buy the farm land IS the Government helping out. The farmers are not required to sell their land. Building structures etc in a flood plain is a bad idea from the begining anyways.

Maybe the farmers should go with their insruance companies first, since those are the people the farmers pay to protect their investments in addition to paying out for losses.

Why must people come up with all these conspiracy theories about the government, complaining about every single action, while ignoring everythig else?

The Government gets to involved in peoples lives... The Government abuses the people... The Government wont give me money because I was dumb enough to build in a flood plain.

Personal Responsibility..

I really wish people would get over this sense of entitlement.

Extremly ignorant people who have no idea about the "farm problem".

I suggest OP to research rather then make up complete BS. OP take a local community college class

Originally posted by atomicn

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by jude11

 

Your ability to fear monger and misrepresent facts just continues to astonish. The FEderal Government offering to buy the farm land IS the Government helping out. The farmers are not required to sell their land. Building structures etc in a flood plain is a bad idea from the begining anyways.

Maybe the farmers should go with their insruance companies first, since those are the people the farmers pay to protect their investments in addition to paying out for losses.

Why must people come up with all these conspiracy theories about the government, complaining about every single action, while ignoring everythig else?

The Government gets to involved in peoples lives... The Government abuses the people... The Government wont give me money because I was dumb enough to build in a flood plain.

Personal Responsibility..

I really wish people would get over this sense of entitlement.

Extremly ignorant people who have no idea about the "farm problem".

I suggest OP to research rather then make up complete BS. OP take a local community college class

I'm not clear on what you are referring to? I didn't write the article but rather posted it for discussion and input as to the reasons behind the actions.

Can you clarify?

If not sure if it has been posted yet, so here we go. I'm sure it's just a coincidence but didn't Jessie Ventura do an episode on the oil spill (BP) and the army corps of engineers already has a de-pop plan for the region. And the makers of the plan are just waiting on their 40 billion check?

www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com...


I hope the link is ok and i am not meaning to break t&c or copyright so if i do please remove.

reply to post by Pervius


Th UN's,and thus tobamas solution is Agenda 21....and they mean it

reply to post by Xcathdra
The man has stated a "Fact" and your ability to play stupid is typical.

reply to post by MajorKarma
ANyone who reads up on Agenda 21 and then thinks that the UN loving tobama administration is pure as the driven snow and there for "the people" is misguided at best

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by jude11

 

Your ability to fear monger and misrepresent facts just continues to astonish. The FEderal Government offering to buy the farm land IS the Government helping out. The farmers are not required to sell their land. Building structures etc in a flood plain is a bad idea from the begining anyways.

Maybe the farmers should go with their insruance companies first, since those are the people the farmers pay to protect their investments in addition to paying out for losses.

Why must people come up with all these conspiracy theories about the government, complaining about every single action, while ignoring everythig else?

The Government gets to involved in peoples lives... The Government abuses the people... The Government wont give me money because I was dumb enough to build in a flood plain.

Personal Responsibility..

I really wish people would get over this sense of entitlement.

Agreed.........although there does seem to be real farmland being bought up.........but by private interests, not the government.

Here, folks, see for yourself.
Hedge Fund Managers buying up Land?

reply to post by captaintyinknots


well lol, dude

the Authoritehs [eric cartman]
are gonna have each others back aren't they?

reply to post by Xcathdra


i wonder if you'll still hew to the party line when you lose your job
cause the government has to be "fiscally responsible".

HELLOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

they cause a flood and then want to "help"?

of course they want to help,

they want to help themselves, or rather their masters.

nobody's forcing them to sell?

gee, guess i can burn down a whole neighborhood, but don't worry none,

cause i'll "help them" by buying their now devalued properties

are you really Xcathedra? or a bot? cause the former used to talk some sense,

not act like dic-ta-phone [pun intended]

reply to post by IamJustanAmerican



fell asleep in history did we?

HELLOOOOO!!!!!

all of the ancient civilizations farmed on the flood plains of rivers, from egypt to mesopotamia to china.

the difference is that they knew when there where going to be floods: they were a yearly event.