Why Jews want this video removed

reply to post by Philojoshua


Makes the whole Israel/America Alliance come into a bit more focus, since they started out exactly the same...

Interesting.

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by greenCo

 

I don't intend on subsiding my support for Israel just because someone on the internet thinks Jews and Israelis in general are evil.

If these people had it their way every last Jew on Earth would disappear.

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Aren't you a US soldier? Should you not be supporting the US unilaterally? Not an enemy of the USA? You as a soldier need to pledge to only flag.

If your commander gave you an order to attack Israel you would have to do it.

reply to post by hxc408

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-) as well as "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends."

Your not looking at the quote in context. It is talking about during wartime. No where in the Quran does it say to kill indiscriminately

reply to post by YourPopRock


Punks are punks.

Its international.

Being jewish doesnt exempt anyone from anything. Neither does being christian.

Originally posted by Philojoshua
reply to post by YourPopRock

 

Is it just me who reads your post and is reminded of the religious white man arriving in 'America' and murdering over 30 million Natives (by 1830) Who gave them the rights to the land???

Just a non-american viewpoint...

Yes... yes you are the only one.

Just an American viewpoint.

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reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL




Israel is not an enemy of the United States. It's fine if you think so, but I don't.

So what's your point? Are you saying that because I signed up for the Army that I'm not allowed to support an ally of the US?

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

Israel is not an enemy of the United States. It's fine if you think so, but I don't.

So what's your point? Are you saying that because I signed up for the Army that I'm not allowed to support an ally of the US?

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Uh-huh.

[P.S. thank you for serving this nation in the way you have chosen to, even though I've never agreed with many of the wars we've gotten involved in.]

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

Israel is not an enemy of the United States. It's fine if you think so, but I don't.

So what's your point? Are you saying that because I signed up for the Army that I'm not allowed to support an ally of the US?

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Israel is an enemy of the united states, do you know that Israel has the most intense spying operation on the US than any other "ally"

Did you not remember the USS liberty which was deliberately attacked? Those fine men on the USS liberty sure think Israel is an enemy, and they were directly involved with Israel. Do you remember the Lavon affair?

If you support israel, you are supporting a terrorist state.

Israel is not a friend of the USA, they are running an operation to steal as many military secrets as possible.

There are sooooooo many more videos just like this!

Why do the Jews think that they can do this? Take people's land... bully and intimidate... persecute others for their beliefs... ESPECIALLY those who saved them from the ovens!

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

Israel is not an enemy of the United States. It's fine if you think so, but I don't.

So what's your point? Are you saying that because I signed up for the Army that I'm not allowed to support an ally of the US?

edit on 27-6-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)

edit on 27-6-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)

Israel is an enemy of the united states, do you know that Israel has the most intense spying operation on the US than any other "ally"

Did you not remember the USS liberty which was deliberately attacked? Those fine men on the USS liberty sure think Israel is an enemy, and they were directly involved with Israel. Do you remember the Lavon affair?

If you support israel, you are supporting a terrorist state.

Israel is not a friend of the USA, they are running an operation to steal as many military secrets as possible.

edit on 27-6-2011 by THE_PROFESSIONAL because: (no reason given)

Ahhhh, sigh....the USS Liberty card...again.
Problem is – Mr I'm convinced Israel is our enemy – it's all a load of hogwash.
You and your buddies are counting on propaganda and lies to make your point against Israel and the Jewish people.
If you ever cared for knowing the truth, which I seriously doubt, than please explain how is it that:

1- CIA, Navy court, Clark Clifford report, senate committee, NSA, Armed Services Committee all came to the conclusion, there is no support to the claims this was an intentional attack or an Israeli conspiracy.

2- USS Liberty crewmen are lying through their teeth and contradict their own sworn testimonies.

3- Some of the USS Liberty crewmen who accuse Israel for a deliberate attack, are known for their pro-Arab and strong anti-Israel sentiments to the extent of declaring Israel is worse than the Nazis.

4- Why doesn't bother you to rely on lies?

5- Why am I not surprised you're not bothered?

www.sixdaywar.org...

Let's make a deal, because these is really getting boring. Every time you and your genius buddies pull out the USS Liberty card, I'll pull the Antisemitic card. Fair?

reply to post by gravitational


people don't know how fast political positions shift.

liberty is as ancient as the exodus, if real. i never heard about it at all.

among the other examples here.

reply to post by gravitational


I am not commenting on the USS Liberty incident, however if I were you I would check the sources, which the sourced article you provided sources. Not to mention that you source CAMERA: Essentially a pro-Israeli website. I am just saying. I do not believe that the USS Liberty was an intentional Israeli attack. however there are some inconsistencies from both sides which need to be adressed.

A far better example of an Israeli false flag attack would be the Lavon affair. I am hoping I can get your comments and thoughts in regards to this?

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

Israel is not an enemy of the United States. It's fine if you think so, but I don't.

So what's your point? Are you saying that because I signed up for the Army that I'm not allowed to support an ally of the US?

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An ally ?
its more like supporting a cancer
that eat you from the inside

Originally posted by felonius
reply to post by YourPopRock

 

Punks are punks.

Its international.

Being jewish doesnt exempt anyone from anything. Neither does being christian.

Amen to that.

reply to post by gravitational

2- USS Liberty crewmen are lying through their teeth and contradict their own sworn testimonies. 3- Some of the USS Liberty crewmen who accuse Israel for a deliberate attack, are known for their pro-Arab and strong anti-Israel sentiments to the extent of declaring Israel is worse than the Nazis.

Why do you think they are saying that? Because they were on the frigging ship and the government still made up its own story. They probably made those statements because of the cover up, and the fact that people like you mocked them and their fellow crew members on board a US flagged ship who died. They know the truth.

Who do you believe when an accident or murder happens? The victims or the politicians who orchestrated the thing?

The USS liberty crewmen witnessed the attack as they were on the ship themselves. Their fellow crewmen died at the intentional attack and now you mock US service members who were killed in a terrorist attack.

The liberty crewmen are not lying, they have no motive for that. They only want to spread the truth and justice for US crew members who were murdered. You were not there when it happened and yet you believe the government rather than the actual victims.

You probably believed everything OJ simpson told on tv.

Oh you want actual evidence from crew members who were on board the ship not some outside person:
whatreallyhappened.com...

Next time you call the USS liberty a card, the crew members would like to have a word with you. The USS liberty was not a playing card in your stack of propaganda, it was a US flagged ship with US soldiers on board.

Every time you and your genius buddies pull out the USS Liberty card, I'll pull the Antisemitic card. Fair?

You must provide sufficient evidence that anything I said was anti-semitc or I pull out the your a troll or a mossad agent card.

reply to post by SpeachM1litant


The Lavon affair is the only verifiable Israeli false flag I know of.
However, as far as any investigation board could conclude, the operation that took place in Egypt was a Mossad local cell independent initiative and was not controlled by the Israeli government.
The Lavon affair made quite a political mayhem in Israel, resulting the resignation of Lavon (defense minister) in 1955 while Ben Gurion taking his place.

In 1958, during a trial of a double agent, given a new data was uncovered, Lavon requested Ben Gurion to reopen his case and exonerate him from his alleged connection to the affair.
Ben Gurion refused. Later on, a committee found Lavon had no knowledge of the operation in Egypt and therefor never gave the order.
As a result, Ben Gurion resign from office. In 1964, Ben Gurion demanded the new PM Eshkol to appoint a new committee to investigate the affair. Eshkol's refusal and 60% of his party's support on his stand against a new investigation, brought Ben Gurion, Moshe dayan and a few other key political figures, to quit.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


You see the difference?

I'm talking about facts, contradicting testimonies, official documents, plus voice recordings between the pilots and the air controller, taken by the NSA and are available to the public.
You are talking about “ probably this probably that” out of you biased opinions.

reply to post by gravitational


The only false flag? Perhaps you did not look into what happened before this. Israeli Military Intellignce at that time headed by Colonel Binyamin Gibli, unprovked, struck a blow against Egypt. A Jewish espionage ring organized and directed by the military intelligence carried out acts of sabotage inside Egypt designed to derail the Anglo-Egyptian agreement.On the 2 of July 1954 devices were placed in mailboxes in in Alexandria. They caused little damage. The same tactic was used against American libraries and information centres in Cairo and Alexandria on the 14th of July. These too had little affect. These happened before the 23rd of July which of course was the cinema which they attempted to blow up.The members who attempted to detonate the bomb inside the cinema were caught in Egypt: 2 were executed, 1 committed suicide in prison and the others were senteced to long terms in prison.

Gibli put the blame on Lavon, saying he ordered the operation and credence was given to this statement due to Lavons anti-Egyptian activism. He wanted to scrap the armistice agreements and capture the Gaza strip. This is still 1954. Howver later it was proven that Gibli forged documents putting the blame on Lavon. Non-the-less this came under the auspices of military intellegence and high ranking government position.

Originally posted by YourPopRock
There are sooooooo many more videos just like this!

Why do the Jews think that they can do this? Take people's land... bully and intimidate... persecute others for their beliefs... ESPECIALLY those who saved them from the ovens!

By your own logic. It's not correct. Those in the video were not even born then.

And as already expressed, in your thread. No one knows the whole picture of the incident in the video
The clip is trimmed, to give a very definite impression of these jews. And to create a certain reaction.

Would you say the same thing you write here if you stood in front of them?
Or would you record your views and post the video as a "response" to the video in your OP?

People will probably think the same. That your view and your attitude is shared by everyone else. Probably the reactions would be just as same. But who knows ?