Blocking progress: the man against legalizing marijuana.

reply to post by OverMan


Wouldn't really be being done with it then would it? Also wondering who that warning of yours was directed at? Everyone or....??

i have my license for medicinal useage.
they are worried about organized crime....when "they" the "gov" are the most organized constituents in the world.
i say let people smoke what they want eat what they want and choose what they want with their OWN body.
bush can do nose candy....admit this...and become POTUS. fair? u decide.

Let's me honest, this isn't mostly about medical use, it's about decriminalizing it for personal use. And how on earth is not legalizing pot blocking progress?

reply to post by CodexSinaiticus


Say "da law" like sylvester stallone for me will ya?

BS as by my understanding the US citizens were declared enemies of the state back in the 30's?
This confirmed in documents coming from Org's such as Bilderbergers and Club of Rome et al...

Or is this not a conspiracy website? I mean W T F???

When you say constitution are you referring to the original organic or the plastic corporate???



See what I mean? infinite laughter...... then some weeping....

I was born on the wrong side of TYRANNY regardless of what you wish to call it now.

Apathy

Conformity

The New Opiate of the Masses....

quite popular and certain to get alot of S & F

reply to post by OverMan



I just don't think threats are helpful.

Many of us want an intelligent discussion on the subject.

However, we are all guests here.

You don't go in a man's house and disrespect his rules.

I don't like the "404". I have had a few.

To me though, It's a simple matter of respect.

reply to post by adifferentbreed

Prohibition is a proven fallacy. It didn't work with alcohol and it doesn't work with marijuana. It is a huge waste of money and there is so much lost revenue.

reply to post by adifferentbreed

It is like talking about Aliens isnt it?

Its a subject you just cant take too seriously can you?

Its been programmed into your little mind to act as you are now acting.

FUNNY isnt it?

Amusing indeed...

Like a dog who learned a few clever tricks yet still rolls in the mud and likes to sniff the butts of other dogs as often as possible

Originally posted by MachiventaMelchizedek
well i have my state issued red card, and i conviently walk into any dispensary and get my meds.

thank god i live in colorado

Got yer card so yer all fixed up huh?

Thank God? I am pretty sure some open and dare I say LIBERAL minded individuals, more likely a small group of committed people were the one's who enabled you to this level and please do not say VOTERS or else I will have to unleash the DIEBOLD ESS VOTER FRAUD monster upon your little seaside village

He's just terrified that his way of life is dying off, so he must remain unalterably opposed so that he can feel that he is protecting his heritage.


When in reality he is just an misinformed career politician who just spouts out what they've told him, you know he doesn't truly care, you know he's probably smoked pot.

All about staying in his position of power.

Texas; a disappointment a day.

reply to post by SG-17


And that has what to do with my comment. Let's be honest, this isn't mostly about medical use, it's about people being able to legally get their smoke on. I still fail tos see how not legalizing pot is keeping us from progressing. I never even said I was against it, but alot of the nonsense being spread around is way less than truthful.

Originally posted by whyamIhere
reply to post by OverMan

 

I just don't think threats are helpful.

Many of us want an intelligent discussion on the subject.

However, we are all guests here.

You don't go in a man's house and disrespect his rules.

I don't like the "404". I have had a few.

To me though, It's a simple matter of respect.

edit on 26-6-2011 by whyamIhere because: pre 98 bubba

A mans house?

This is OUR house!

People with this distorted opinion, IMHO are full of conformist apathetic puss is what they are

reply to post by adifferentbreed


It is backwards to keep drugs that have proven, hard side effects like alcohol and tobacco legal while a drug with no proven side effects and a myriad of beneficial properties is kept illegal just because Big Pharma and Big Timber would lose profits if it was legal.

Originally posted by adifferentbreed
Let's me honest, this isn't mostly about medical use, it's about decriminalizing it for personal use. And how on earth is not legalizing pot blocking progress?

Honestly I can answer this question, but doing so may violate the rules set for this forum.

Sorry!



Besides, shouldn't you do your own due diligence?

The truth is you really don't want an answer at all.

Exhale...

Dunno if I want anyone stoned, legal or not, driving down the road where my kid's playing
Legal makes it more apt to happen, like drunk driving

reply to post by HomerinNC


people are already driving down those roads stoned. of course its illegal to drive while intoxicated also. im sick of other peoples kids being the reason it isn't legal. stop trying to criminalize me because you think you wont be able to protect your own children from possibilitys. lets just make snakes, poison ivy, and bees illegal as well.

To keep marijuana in illegal prohibition in this day and age is ridiculous.
For THOUSANDS of years marijuana has been used as a medicine to treat various illness and disease.

Funny how drugs like OXYCONTIN is completely legal yet can kill you and turn you into a zombie junkie who will kill for their next fix.

I do not understand this "war against drugs". It has been going on for over 50 years, how can you win this war?
Making such drugs illegal are the reason the black markets and gangs flourish.

People need to stop being gullible and believe the disinformation being presented in the mainstream. Do your own research and come to your own conclusions, before you decide to spew out the bull# propaganda that the "Nanny State' has been teaching you.

reply to post by CodexSinaiticus


I never said I was against legalizing it, just pointing out the obvious. It's not only about medical use, people wanna get their smoke on and use the medical part as an excuse to try and pass this.

Originally posted by InnerTruths
To keep marijuana in illegal prohibition in this day and age is ridiculous.
For THOUSANDS of years marijuana has been used as a medicine to treat various illness and disease.

Funny how drugs like OXYCONTIN is completely legal yet can kill you and turn you into a zombie junkie who will kill for their next fix.

I do not understand this "war against drugs". It has been going on for over 50 years, how can you win this war?
Making such drugs illegal are the reason the black markets and gangs flourish.

People need to stop being gullible and believe the disinformation being presented in the mainstream. Do your own research and come to your own conclusions, before you decide to spew out the bull# propaganda that the "Nanny State' has been teaching you.

Exactly!

June 22, 2011 Focus on Prescription Records Leads to Arrest in 4 Killings By AL BAKER and JOSEPH GOLDSTEIN On a winding road in Medford, N.Y., about two miles from the pharmacy where four people were killed over the weekend, a squad of police vehicles converged on a neat Cape Cod-style house on Wednesday morning. Stacey Bohlert, who lives next door on Pitchpine Place, called her mother to say she thought a killer might be in the backyard.

There were probably about 20 officers, in plainclothes and in uniform, said Peter Spano, who was doing siding work two doors down. It looked like a SWAT team, Mr. Spano, 52, said. There was no apparent struggle or difficulty inside. The officers came out escorting a gaunt man, later identified as David Laffer, and arrested him in connection with the killings at the pharmacy, Haven Drugs, several law enforcement officials said. The crime appeared to have been the most severe example of a national epidemic involving drugstore robberies by prescription drug addicts. Mr. Laffer, 33, was taken to the Suffolk County Police Headquarters in Yaphank for questioning and later charged with first-degree murder and with resisting arrest. His wife, Melinda Brady, 29, was charged with third-degree robbery and obstructing governmental administration. They were scheduled to be arraigned Thursday at District Court in Central Islip. The arrests and charges were products of hundreds of tips that came in after surveillance images of a suspect were made public.

The assailant came with a backpack, and inventory showed that the primary type of drug he stole that morning was hydrocodone, the main ingredient in Vicodin. More than 11,000 hydrocodone pills were missing, according to a law enforcement official who insisted on anonymity because the investigation was continuing. The gunman also stole unspecified quantities of two other medications, promethazine and cheratussin, found in a popular recreational drug beverage called Purple Drank, the official said. The burst of violence at Haven Drugs occurred shortly after 10 a.m., and the suspect was quickly labeled a “drug user” by law enforcement officials, who said no money was taken.

Detectives interviewed physicians who prescribe painkiller medication, as they sought to focus on people who might have an interest in obtaining pharmaceutical drugs. A prosecutor in the Office of the Special Narcotics Prosecutor for New York City re-examined prescription records that the office had in its possession, another law enforcement official said. Those records are part of continuing long-term investigations into prescription drug diversion, the official said. Mr. Laffer’s name caught the prosecutor’s attention because he lived in Medford and previously filled hydrocodone prescriptions at Haven Drugs, the official said, adding that the office also learned that Mr. Laffer had a pistol permit.

The official said Ms. Brady had also filled oxycodone prescriptions, though there was no evidence she had ever filled them at Haven Drugs. After comparing Mr. Laffer’s driver’s license photo with the images captured on the surveillance video at Haven Drugs, investigators in the Office of the Special Narcotics Prosecutor believed they had discovered a possible suspect, and passed on the information to the authorities in Suffolk County. There are indications that Mr. Laffer had already come to the attention of the Suffolk authorities by then. Mr. Laffer had served in the Army for seven years, discharged in 2002 as a private first class. Four years ago, he and Ms. Brady married at Giorgio’s on the North Shore of Long Island, after proposing to her at a hockey game. He worked at Cosa Instrument in Yaphank, a company that produces and distributes measuring instruments, but he recently lost his job. More than 1,800 pharmacy robberies have taken place across the country over the last three years, though few if any involved mass killings. Last year, the Suffolk County Police Department recorded eight robberies of pharmacies in the area it polices, which excludes some towns in the county. So far this year, there have been four, including the one on Sunday.

Two customers were fatally shot, Jaime Taccetta, 33, and Bryon Sheffield, 71; and so were two employees, Raymond Ferguson, 45, a pharmacist, and Jennifer Mejia, 17, a high school student. In a statement, the Suffolk County executive, Steve Levy, praised the police arrest and the work “to rapidly bring into custody an individual suspected in the heinous quadruple murder that took place just three days ago,” but he pointedly did not name the man.

Those who knew Mr. Laffer described him as energetic and kind. He was a fan of the Islanders and was extremely competitive in a local dek hockey league, playing goalie and defense with tremendous heart. “He was very nice,” said Trish Bohlert, a neighbor who attended Mr. Laffer’s wedding. “He seemed very happy.” Andrew Oliveri, 31, who played for four years with Mr. Laffer on a team called the Dragons, was incredulous that his name had surfaced in connection with the killings. Yet, Mr. Oliveri said he had heard a couple of years ago that Mr. Laffer “was starting to get into things he wasn’t normally doing.” Ms. Bohlert said she heard that Mr. Laffer had been recently unemployed and that his wife had been jobless for at least a year. Mr. Spano was more direct in his appraisal of Mr. Laffer, saying, “He looked like he was somebody coming close to death.” Angela Macropoulos, Anahad O’Connor and Nate Schweber contributed reporting.