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Originally posted by jibeho
Regarding New York... I would like to see a poll of those folks who actually live outside of the NYC metro area on this subject.
In New York, the Siena Poll showed that 59 percent of union households and 59 percent of Catholics in New York supported marriage equality—crucial voting blocks. To some extent, the politicians were following the people.
The Siena New York Poll is a monthly snapshot poll of at least 800 registered voters from throughout New York State on current political issues.
“The more New Yorkers learn about marriage equality, the more they support this basic issue of fairness,” said Brian Ellner, the Human Rights Campaign’s senior strategist for the Campaign for New York Marriage.
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Interestingly, the poll found more support for same-sex marriage in upstate and in the New York City suburbs than in New York City.
Let's make Gullible a new protected class with a new set of rights.
Originally posted by Stovokor
Originally posted by origamiandurbanism
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Originally posted by starwarsisreal
Have to applaud after all there's nothing wrong with gay marriage as long as both parties are consenting adults
Maybe now they will make it legal for me to marry my sister.
And then all your dreams will finally come true! Just kidding!
Seriously, how is a gay person marrying another gay person affecting your life? It isn't and I don't know how many times I've read on various message boards and on talk radio - "Soon they'll be passing laws to marry siblings, kids, animals, etc." Do you realize how offensive that is to a gay person? I'm sure you don't care but I'm guessing a gay person would find it pretty offensive!
I can't wait for the day when all 50 states legalize this so we can move forward. It's not something our country should even be debating at this point, it's ridiculous.
Yeah, i don't understand the argument 'if you let gays marry next it will be incest and animals".
How is allowing me and my partner full and equal rights under the law anything like incest or bestiality?
It's insulting.
Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by Stovokor
Here you go in great detail. I particularly agree with Supreme Court Judge Scalia.
www.conservapedia.com...
Originally posted by Jrocbaby
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Originally posted by Jrocbaby
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
It is all part of the Illumanit-antichrist plan to make homosexuality acceptable, when it is in fact a mental disease. What they don't tell you is that 80% of homosexuals are born in families where there was some sort of abuse and these are products of abuse and not nature.
This is what you are saying
"they are mentally less capable than me, because they are not like me"
And your "abuse" logic is laughable, 80% of all statistics are made up on spot.
Being gay is just as natural as being straight, the fact that people are gay at all means it is natural... You can keep telling yourself whatever crap that makes you think it is unnatural, but if you find 2 men together somewhere, that means it is natural...
Not to mention animals are gay, ive watched male cats hump other male cats
I have seen a black widow spider kill and eat another one. I have seen animals eat crap. Should humans eat crap and kill as well, just because animals do it?
Your argument is void and off topic. stop derailing. and humans have eaten crap before in the history of people, so yes that would make it natural. im not saying it is right in anyway, but it happens making it natural.if you honestly think you are right in your head, then i honestly do not know what happened to you when you were a little boy, but it must of been hard to live withedit on 25-6-2011 by Jrocbaby because: (no reason given)edit on 25-6-2011 by Jrocbaby because: (no reason given)
so yes that would make it natural. im not saying it is right in anyway
do not know what happened to you when you were a little boy, but it must of been hard to live with
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Originally posted by Jrocbaby
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Originally posted by Jrocbaby
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
It is all part of the Illumanit-antichrist plan to make homosexuality acceptable, when it is in fact a mental disease. What they don't tell you is that 80% of homosexuals are born in families where there was some sort of abuse and these are products of abuse and not nature.
This is what you are saying
"they are mentally less capable than me, because they are not like me"
And your "abuse" logic is laughable, 80% of all statistics are made up on spot.
Being gay is just as natural as being straight, the fact that people are gay at all means it is natural... You can keep telling yourself whatever crap that makes you think it is unnatural, but if you find 2 men together somewhere, that means it is natural...
Not to mention animals are gay, ive watched male cats hump other male cats
I have seen a black widow spider kill and eat another one. I have seen animals eat crap. Should humans eat crap and kill as well, just because animals do it?
Your argument is void and off topic. stop derailing. and humans have eaten crap before in the history of people, so yes that would make it natural. im not saying it is right in anyway, but it happens making it natural.if you honestly think you are right in your head, then i honestly do not know what happened to you when you were a little boy, but it must of been hard to live withedit on 25-6-2011 by Jrocbaby because: (no reason given)edit on 25-6-2011 by Jrocbaby because: (no reason given)
it is not void and not off topic. You are derailing. I stated that homosexuality is not natural it is a mental illness. You said it was natural because animals did it. Well animals kill and eat their own. Does that mean humans should kill and eat their own? You are using animals as an example for homosexuality. It is not off topic, and is extremely relevant.
so yes that would make it natural. im not saying it is right in anyway
See just because animals and humans have done homosexuality in the past does not make it right or natural in anyway.edit on 25-6-2011 by THE_PROFESSIONAL because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by Stovokor
Here you go in great detail. I particularly agree with Supreme Court Judge Scalia.
www.conservapedia.com...
Special rights, also called special privileges, are privileges extended to a particular special-interest group but denied to the majority. Examples of special rights include same-sex "marriage"[1] and the repeal of Don't ask, don't tell[2].
A CNN poll this month found that a narrow majority of Americans supported same-sex marriage — the first poll to find majority support. Other poll results did not go that far, but still, on average, showed that support for gay marriage had risen to 45 percent or more (with the rest either opposed or undecided).
That’s a big change from 1996, when Congress passed the Defense of Marriage Act. At that time, only 25 percent of Americans said that gay and lesbian couples should have the right to marry, according to an average of national polls.
The more important turning points in public opinion, however, may be occurring at the state level, especially if states continue to control who can get married.
This trend will continue. Nationally, a majority of people under age 30 support same-sex marriage. And this is not because of overwhelming majorities found in more liberal states that skew the national picture: our research shows that a majority of young people in almost every state support it. As new voters come of age, and as their older counterparts exit the voting pool, it’s likely that support will increase, pushing more states over the halfway mark.
Originally posted by CobraCommander
reply to post by krill
If it is going to be allowed, I certainly don't think any church or group should be forced to marry gays if it is against their beliefs.
All in all, while I would be for civil unions, I simply cannot abide the use of the word marriage. This is yet another example of the narcissism or our modern western society, where we can have whatever we want and delude ourselves as to the nature of reality. Changing the very meanings of words, mutilation of genitalia in order to identify with one sex or another, fathers as mothers, mothers as fathers, it's no wonder kids are so screwed up today not knowing witch end is up.
Let me just be clear, I am no homophobe and have no problem with gays, with them living together, with them having commitment ceremonies and partnership rights recognized by the state. But all in all, I think this is a bad day for society, and another win for the NWO.
Originally posted by jibeho
Again, I am all for legal unions and spousal benefits. I am opposed to the apparent need to legally redefine marriage via mandates.
Our nation and its foundation is slowly being turned inside out while it is being shaken to the core.
Originally posted by Jrocbaby
If you do not see how insulting it is to say that homosexuality is a mental disorder and not natural, then this might be the foundation of the problem. If you are incapable of understanding this then I don't know what to tell ya.
You seem to have a false understanding of what natural even means, i would love to hear your version of it from the mind of a racist. Let me get my popcorn real quickedit on 25-6-2011 by Jrocbaby because: (no reason given)