White House: Gaza flotilla activists may be breaking U.S. law

reply to post by BiGGz


I only have one simple question..

What has Hamas done to the US or it's citizens ???

IMO this is the second thread in as many days that shows who really controls the US....

reply to post by backinblack


What did the nazis do to America before the USA joined world war 2? Nothing. Do you suggest the US should never have fought them?

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Of course you do. You just support the muslims in their desire to eliminate the Jews. Have you ever read the hamas charter? Do you understand their position on Jews and Israel?

You're going to tell me what I support? If you read my posts, you will understand I don't agree to any violence. I don't support Hamas, I support Palestinians.

Originally posted by backinblack
I only have one simple question..

What has Hamas done to the US or it's citizens ???

Nothing from what I know.

They're doing what any ordinary citizen would do. Fight for the right of your country. Remember the wolverines? They fought against foreign occupation, and we called them 'freedom fighters'.

Originally posted by nightbringr
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What did the nazis do to America before the USA joined world war 2? Nothing. Do you suggest the US should never have fought them?

Umm, Japan was an ally of Germany and attacked a US navy base killing a few thousand Americans..
I wouldn't exactly call that nothing.

So again, what has Hamas don to the US please ??

reply to post by nightbringr


Attacking merchant ships in the Atlantic is a pretext for war.

reply to post by BiGGz


This is not a "State Sanctioned" Humanitarian mission. That is why it is illegal. Also, as pointed out previously, HAMAS, along with Hezbollah are recognized terrorist organizations by the US Government.

This is just provocation looking for a reaction by Israel.

I wonder if they could alleviate it by putting a Israeli delegation on board. A total voyage customs inspection, if you will. But I doubt it.

This one probably won’t go as well as the first one. To many eyes on it.

reply to post by backinblack


Actually, Germany declared war on the US on Dec 8 1941. Not visa-versa.

Hamas also has ties to the US Marine barracks and US Embassy Beirut bombing back in '82.

reply to post by BiGGz


Mate I'm with you..

While Israel continue the illegal settlements, which can only be described as a hostile invasion, they have every right to retaliate..
I have a good idea what Israel would do if some Palestinians crossed the border and started building homes on Israeli land.

reply to post by TDawgRex

Hamas also has ties to the US Marine barracks and US Embassy Beirut bombing back in '82.

Please show me some links to information on that if you can..

Edit

Hamas was established in 1987

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by TDawgRex


You're missing the point. Israel currently has a monopoly on what goes in and out of Gaza (though the opening at Rafah may change this). The point of these flotillas and aid convoys is to provide much needed food, medical supplies and building materials to the people of Gaza because the aid coming from elsewhere is too thinly spread and takes too long to get to Gaza.

reply to post by lifeissacred

The point of these flotillas and aid convoys is to provide much needed food, medical supplies and building materials to the people of Gaza because the aid coming from elsewhere is too thinly spread and takes too long to get to Gaza.

IMO, the point of these flotillas is to show support for the Palestinian people and show that the entire blockade is illegal in the eyes of the international community..

Originally posted by backinblack

Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by backinblack

 

What did the nazis do to America before the USA joined world war 2? Nothing. Do you suggest the US should never have fought them?

Umm, Japan was an ally of Germany and attacked a US navy base killing a few thousand Americans..
I wouldn't exactly call that nothing.

So again, what has Hamas don to the US please ??

Lets see.............

Umm, Israel is an ally of the USA, and Hamas has performed many terrorist operations against Israel and its people. I wouldn't exactly call that nothing.

reply to post by backinblack


One is primarily Palestinian and the other Lebanese but they are both off shoots who have taken over since the PLO collapsed.

Think about it, when was the last time you have heard of the PLO as a player in the regional politics since Arafat died?

They both have the same goal, the demise of Israel. A UN recognized Nation.

en.wikipedia.org...

www.wisegeek.com...

isn't that boat named after obama's book?

would he really want himself associated with this, if things go south?

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
It is currently illegal to support terrorist organizations. The "government" there is hamas, a known and active terrorist group. So yes, they are violating the law.

It is also currently illegal to stage false flag terrorist attacks on your own people in the name of war profiteering.

Originally posted by nightbringr

Originally posted by backinblack

Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by backinblack

 

What did the nazis do to America before the USA joined world war 2? Nothing. Do you suggest the US should never have fought them?

Umm, Japan was an ally of Germany and attacked a US navy base killing a few thousand Americans..
I wouldn't exactly call that nothing.

So again, what has Hamas don to the US please ??

Lets see.............

Umm, Israel is an ally of the USA, and Hamas has performed many terrorist operations against Israel and its people. I wouldn't exactly call that nothing.

Israel has also caused terrorist acts against the US (USS liberty and 9/11).

Originally posted by lifeissacred
reply to post by TDawgRex

 

You're missing the point. Israel currently has a monopoly on what goes in and out of Gaza (though the opening at Rafah may change this). The point of these flotillas and aid convoys is to provide much needed food, medical supplies and building materials to the people of Gaza because the aid coming from elsewhere is too thinly spread and takes too long to get to Gaza.

True, technically Israel controls Gaza, so even though Hamas was supposedly democratically elected, Israel is the real "governance" of Gaza (meaning the US is right, Gaza is run by a terrorist organization- Israel).

reply to post by nightbringr

Umm, Israel is an ally of the USA, and Hamas has performed many terrorist operations against Israel and its people. I wouldn't exactly call that nothing.

Tell that to the survivors of the USS Liberty and the grieving families of the dead..
I'm sure they'll agree Israel is a US ally.

Really, what has Israel done to be a US ally?
Seems like a one way street to me..

reply to post by backinblack


Of course it's to show support and solidarity, thats a given, but I mean from a practical point of view they are not only highlighting the plight of the Palestinian people but also delivering much needed aid.

Being "charitable" should not be illegal, even if the aid is going to the "bad guys", who may "see the light" of "good will". But if there is a U.S. law that does not sanction this sort of "humanitarianism" as suggested, then it is illegal.