Comet Elenin May End The World - Again! Massive Catastrophe Time - Now!

The Nostradamus Mabus prophecy speaks of the Comet running. This is comet Elenin is a sign post for apocalypse.

I think Velikovsky´s ideas were interesting, he had the ability to think so much outside the mainstream box. And this is so typical, that it meets ridiccule

Originally posted by ReverendPritchett
The Nostradamus Mabus prophecy speaks of the Comet running. This is comet Elenin is a sign post for apocalypse.

If you can't talk English, how did you get to be a priest? I've never heard of Comet running. Do you mean comet Running? Look Terry... I know you've got Altzeimer, you said so, but you should be somewhere else, to be properly looked after. I wouldn't worry about this comet as it isn't a comet. As for Nostrildamus, he had nasal problems, made him wacky, came out with all sorts of rubbish, superstitious waffle.

And really, one has to ask - is this a thread? It's gone on for 3 pages about... well, nothing !

mclinking

It's ok guys, we got Duke Nukem and Chuck Norris on our side.
Seriously, no worries.

reply to post by DJW001

If C/2010 X-1 had any appreciable mass, it would have affected 1999 RQ176's path. There was no measurable effect. The comet has not caused any earthquakes, nor has any plausible mechanism for that theory been advanced. Immanuel Velikovsky's theory is that planetary havoc was caused by the planet Venus, which has a mass comparable to Earth's. C/2010 X-1 couldn't even rattle a little asteroid!

Don't try to confuse us with the facts, we demand groundless fantastical claims with no evidence but for sneering remarks when asked for it.

reply to post by ZIPMATT

So if it comes here every 3000 years then why are humans still around???
And if there is a huge dwarf star coming then why havent we seriously felt the effects yet?? This star/planet is supposed to be much larger than Jupiter and only one year from us and yet nothing...

It is starting to seem like people an ATS are wishing for the world to come to a end..

Originally posted by stupid girl
lmao....

AND..??????

Seriously, what is your point?

1. I'm sitting in a brown chair.
2. The chair I'm sitting in is leather.
3. Leather comes from a cow.

And do you have a reliable source for that? Or are we just meant to take your word?
Any REAL evidence?

I can't condone nor condemn your thread. However I did star and Flag it even though Noahs time has to be speculative, it's possible that it's right at the same time. Still at least you gave a good amount of text in your OP
and that counts for alot these days. Seems that most new members think they can write one sentence and give link and their done. They get nothing from me so SnF.

Originally posted by ZIPMATT
Its my bad sorry I posted the title with very little info bar the 3 established facts. I just hit the wrong key -post instead of preview. By time I had made something reasonable out of this op a page worth of jokes had just poured in. I still dont know what chocolate raisins has to do with it all though!

The 3500 years return time for the comet is not bs. This term is lightly specifed in Velikovskys first book 1950s) but is more definitely proposed in his 1980 book Earth In Upheaval . His knowledge took some years to gain : as it would. To reconstruct the earlier experiences of the world is not easy. this what you say is bs was a lifes work for him, which evolved as he learned more. Stick to the facts, and as you recommend ; read the books if you can.

This 3500 year return may unintentionally give Harold Camping of May 21st rapturists some credence (7000 yr since Noahs flood), and the 2012 lunes too, but I dont care in the slightlest . Facts are always backed up with clear evidence : it was Velikovsky who is now dead that produced facts and evidence about this pending global disaster . I am not saying sing silly songs to the back wall of a building either , but do observe the suddenly revealed relevance of much mainstream prophecy : ie Jesus and diciples turn up at Temple in Jerusalem, Jesus says : " I tell ye there shall be a time when not one stone of this mighty temple will be left even near another" .
( a scattered heap) A multitude of one liners like this say it all :

some of those truly in the know regard this as God's comet , incorporated in the design of the solar system : providing a regular clearout of old orders. I dont think they are far wrong : we have recorded much about prophesy in this 'age'. When the earth emerges again and settles down from this there will be an age of enlightenment . Only the righteous (not the p-takers) shall inherit the Earth. For the wrongdoers : its the edge of the abyss . "Woe unto ye, hypocrites!" etc etc Its nearly too late : but the true prophets (not atheists or religions) were right. Also, havent David Attenborough at BBC natural history co have been selling you a sucker while teaching you how to ridicule Noah ? Its not just Charles Darwin who was important, but then again no one bothers to read his book either!

. I could go on all day but I cant so see you all in the next threads or the next 'chapter'..

But the righteous inherited last time aka Noah and fam. and look at us now! Plus I don't believe the biblical writings are facts they were written to long later. Why didn't Jesus write down his own words for the future? that makes more sense, he was educated and not many could write in those days.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by ZIPMATT

 

yes click the link : it is commonly known as comet Elenin : its mass may indeed be of planetary proportions but it is carrying a tail : i want facts about this to be known. The incoming comet may have caused earthquakes and tsunamis and the volcanos which are erupting . some with magma flows so far. read the books, you will see why this is posted here.

No, Elenin's mass is not of planetary proportions:

May 21st at 00:52 UT Comet Elenin and asteroid (74732) 1999 RQ176 passed each other at a distance of only 225,830 km, which amounts to 0.59 the average distance between the Earth and Moon. ...

On the image at left, taken 3 hours after closest approach, you can see how close the two objects came. Asteroid 1999 RQ176 is a rather large representative of the Flora family, and has a diameter of about 2.7 km.

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SpaceObs

If C/2010 X-1 had any appreciable mass, it would have affected 1999 RQ176's path. There was no measurable effect. The comet has not caused any earthquakes, nor has any plausible mechanism for that theory been advanced.

Immanuel Velikovsky's theory is that planetary havoc was caused by the planet Venus, which has a mass comparable to Earth's. C/2010 X-1 couldn't even rattle a little asteroid!

Thanks for this input DJW I had hoped you in particular would contribute to this thread. Here's an answer : The path of asteroids circling within the asteroid belt is far less tight a line than the earth takes around the sun. Take a wide bend on the motorway - its no problem, but too sharp a turn at speed throws balances out and you crash.
I realise the flaws of this comparison however. There may have been no measured effect on a simple asteroid : just a piece of rock the diameter of a small city. But Earth is no asteroid : vast amounts of iron are within its core. Water covers most of its face. A world of differences, rotating all at the same angular velocity - under normal circumstances. Asteroids have no tilt, no axis , they dont spin , they have no particular or any diverse physical features. No natural vulnerability , and no attractive forces of their own.

A plausible mechanism for the theory that earthquakes have been caused already by comet Elenin has been advanced by you in this post : "if it had any appreciable mass, it would have affected 1999RQ176's path".

We cannot weigh comet Elenin with a telescope. But looking at the evidence the picture provides then goodness me that's large. And the speed it is travelling is phenomenal. If magnetised metals make up further weight then assess these possibilities rather than decline the theory flat without proof. Even you dont know whats coming : because it originated in outer space. Therefore the world needs your help.

Velikovsky did seem to spark a love affair with Venus : I dont know why. Potentially those who wanted to keep this knowledge secret may have made him paranoid. In the epilogue of Worlds In Collision he reminds the reader that the Venus part of his book is indeed just a theory. The first 100 or so pages is where the facts, evidence and references are: the information and records are about the influences of a comet, not Venus.

Originally posted by ZIPMATT
Velikovsky did seem to spark a love affair with Venus : I dont know why. Potentially those who wanted to keep this knowledge secret may have made him paranoid. In the epilogue of Worlds In Collision he reminds the reader that the Venus part of his book is indeed just a theory. The first 100 or so pages is where the facts, evidence and references are: the information and records are about the influences of a comet, not Venus.

For me it was fascinating idea, that Venus came here later as a kind of comet, but I just like ideas, that sound crazy and different from ordinary . But interestingly, the Mayans referred to the beginning of their Long Count as the "birth of Venus". I´ve thought, that it would be funny if ancient Nibiru is actually planet Venus, because it "crossed over" if it came to inner Solar System. People speculate and hope to find it hidden somewhere in dark space, but it has been in front of us all the time, literally. It´s of course just an idea.

Originally posted by ZIPMATT
There may have been no measured effect on a simple asteroid : just a piece of rock the diameter of a small city. But Earth is no asteroid : vast amounts of iron are within its core.

Given the position of 1999 RQ176 within the asteroid belt, it most likely contains a significant amount of iron. In fact, I have an iron rich meteorite in my hand right now that would most likely resemble the composition of 1999 RQ176.

Asteroids have no tilt, no axis , they dont spin ,

I'm sorry, but that's completely wrong. In fact, most of the things you say are completely wrong. I'd be quite curious to learn who told you these things.

We cannot weigh comet Elenin with a telescope.

Actually, we can. It's "off-scale low."

But looking at the evidence the picture provides then goodness me that's large.

Actually it's a small comet, there have been far larger ones. In fact, just about every comet you've ever seen by eye has been larger.

And the speed it is travelling is phenomenal.

It's normal for a long period comet.

If magnetised metals make up further weight then assess these possibilities rather than decline the theory flat without proof.

So why then would it not perturb an iron-containing asteroid at very close distance, yet "cause earthquakes" on earth from a distance greater that that of the sun?

Originally posted by ngchunter

We cannot weigh comet Elenin with a telescope.

Actually, we can. It's "off-scale low."

Some of what i speculated is indeed wrong .

This short quoted issue however has not been resolved and its now , what , 3 months on ?
Trying to measure the mass by the length of the tail , is hardly going to be accurate , given that composition of external objects being discussed , in particular this object , in this case , is unknown .

Having read more on astronomy since then , looking back we were all fairly naive . Fact being fact however what you had replied here shows I was not wrong about some aspects . Unjudicious prejudice? No I would hope we just correct each other with facts .

Originally posted by Greensage

Originally posted by StealthyKat
I always thought lime green was a scary color......

thanks for.... uhhhhhh........... whatever. I'm speechless.

That's funny! It reminds me that no one really knows what the color Mauve is! LOL

On that note, what the hell is Puce??

Originally posted by ZIPMATT
This short quoted issue however has not been resolved and its now , what , 3 months on ?

It's been resolved. The comet failed to perturb 1999 RQ176 despite passing extremely close to it, that means the comet is a very low mass object. We can, and have, weighed it. It's off-scale low.

Trying to measure the mass by the length of the tail , is hardly going to be accurate

That is not the method I used. Why are you trying to put words in my mouth? What is your agenda here?

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I couldn't agree that you can weigh it (with or without a telescope) or identify its actual composition .
for some it is something to be particular about and for others the 3 days (march 11th) alignment identified by Leonid , was a cause for concern .

I did see a picture here in this thread of the object passing the asteroid in question . What I did not see is any clear evidence that the asteroid was not perturbed , but am happy to accept assurances from those i have learned to trust , because i have to be . Or do I ?

Similarly , the near miss of the asteroid md2011 , june this year - it had a predicted flightpath , yet like the uars we had no confirmation of where exactly the thing did fly through . This despite it reported in the news just before it came by , and being watched closely .

If I have an agenda it is to tie up any loose ends , not let anything important be lost , like common sense , and try and step back then being able to give a balanced opinion .
I think the title of the the thread and op had something to offer at the time , so no agenda really just recommended reading and contribution to the collective consciousness . 40 metre tsunamis also do carry the nature of helping focus the mind

I've posted this before and it seems fitting here once I read about world's colliding.

Originally posted by mclinking

Originally posted by ReverendPritchett
The Nostradamus Mabus prophecy speaks of the Comet running. This is comet Elenin is a sign post for apocalypse.

If you can't talk English, how did you get to be a priest? I've never heard of Comet running. Do you mean comet Running? Look Terry... I know you've got Altzeimer, you said so, but you should be somewhere else, to be properly looked after. I wouldn't worry about this comet as it isn't a comet. As for Nostrildamus, he had nasal problems, made him wacky, came out with all sorts of rubbish, superstitious waffle.

And really, one has to ask - is this a thread? It's gone on for 3 pages about... well, nothing !

mclinking

you have horrible english and grammar

I posted this on another thread, but it seems relevant here too...




Did anyone every debunk this connection with the swiss franc?

Is this the nightly joke thread?

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