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All I have learnt from this post is another way to score dates. Thankyou man.
Originally posted by NuroSlam
So its father's day today and I have to work 18 hours.
Congrats, man. I am with you. It just hurts to see you working 18 hours a day. I had to post this one - what George Carlin said.
They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that … that doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting #ed by a system that threw them overboard 30 #in’ years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers … Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly #tier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money.
I think you're one man that has taken the step forward of the soul our dear old Humanity needs. Bravo.
Fantastic - what a great post that really made me smile....
I like you am a single dad with 2 and 3 year old girls and although they haven't got the paint out like that yet I would probably do the same - I don't care less what people think anymore (I used to) but as long as you're having quality time with your kids thats all that matters..Try whizzing on the trolley down an aisle in the supermarket shouting weeeeeeeee - they love it but you dont half get some stares of people
As for the numpty who said you were spoiling her on page 1 (not read past that yet so don't know if he has had replies) but people like you are so sad.
Most parents know what the line is - but are you suggesting they should stop their children having fun and just being kids - great to see a parent actually interacting with their child and not just dropping them in front of a DVD and leaving them to it. Seriously what a ridiculous post to lower the tone of this topic - shame on you.
I like you am a single dad with 2 and 3 year old girls and although they haven't got the paint out like that yet I would probably do the same - I don't care less what people think anymore (I used to) but as long as you're having quality time with your kids thats all that matters..Try whizzing on the trolley down an aisle in the supermarket shouting weeeeeeeee - they love it but you dont half get some stares of people
As for the numpty who said you were spoiling her on page 1 (not read past that yet so don't know if he has had replies) but people like you are so sad.
Most parents know what the line is - but are you suggesting they should stop their children having fun and just being kids - great to see a parent actually interacting with their child and not just dropping them in front of a DVD and leaving them to it. Seriously what a ridiculous post to lower the tone of this topic - shame on you.
Originally posted by NuroSlam
So its father's day today and I have to work 18 hours. You do what you have to do to support your children. I try not to mince words and tend to speak my mind.
I'm a single father of a wonderfully bright 6 year old girl that I will give my life for if I need to. When shes here with me, I let her be a kid, something I don't see a lot of parents do any more. Like most little girls, she likes to dress up, the big gaudy jewellery, princess gowns etc. She also likes to play with make-up and nail polish. While I'm not to happy about the whole Disney indoctrination of girls, I am but one of two parents with limited time to instill in her the values that I hold dear.
From the age of four she has put make up on me, painted my nails, put horribly awful looking stuff in my hair with a true sense of glee. Its not uncommon for her to want to walk to the store to get a snack after this happens. Now, after two years I can honestly say I have never dreaded walking out the door like this, I don't care what people think of me one bit so I just roll with it. I do pay attention to the reactions of those around me though, and I find it very amusing. "Men" snicker and giggle like little school girls when I brandish my Tinkerbell wallet she gave me for fathers day 2 years ago. They look at me like I am out of my mind with 6 different colors of nail polish on. In fact I'm writing this because I made a post saying I got distracted while having my toenails painted to explain my forgetting to link to a site in an OP. The one reply was "I'm a man, that would never happen to me"
The women's reactions are exactly the opposite, they say how cute, how great of a dad I am that I would allow her to do these things and not worry about anyone else's actions. I have in fact scored a couple of dates!
So you think you are a real man, macho and ready to take on the world, but can you set all that aside for a precious little soul that you care and love?edit on 19-6-2011 by NuroSlam because: (no reason given)
You sir, are a great example of what a dad should be. It's great to hear some people will do what makes their daughter(kids) happy, and its even greater to hear or someone who doesn't give in to what people think of them.
Just a tip, if you want something fun to watch with your daughter, go to youtube and watch "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic". It is a very great show made by Lauren Faust (Powerpuff Girls, Foster's Home), her husband is the creator of said shows. She's a damn good cartoonist. Both You and your Daughter will love it. (I'm a 21 Male, and I love the show), it's one of the few that has innocent humor in it.
Happy Father's Day
You sir received my first combo S&F!!! More dad's need to be like that.
Originally posted by 0288796
Originally posted by FoxStriker
Then he should mention that its in response to another thread... hell, a real man would have won the arguement on the original thread, not retreat and start another thread with no explanation.
A real man would have won the argument in the real world. If the OP is such a "real man", let him confront face to face in the real world the guys who are mocking him (if indeed they were).
I agree with your post entirely.
I would be more t hen happy to meet anyone who feels that I have taken some dig at them. As often as you used to term cross dressing it does make one wonder.
Originally posted by FoxStriker
IT'S about him wanting to be reasured that he's a man... thats it. He want revenge for being mocked by other men...
and no offence to the OP, but thats not a definition of a real man in any situation... its the last refuge of a coward... To insult other men who are not like you... which is the very arguement he's argueing. Thats Sad
I have no need to be reassured that I am a man in any way, shape or form, I merely gave an example of letting go of that all to often dangerous idea of being a "real" man and going with the flow. All to often men think its "queer" to just be in the moment. It doesn't surprise me that non reasoning people don't see how such a simple statement on a thread could lead someone to think "well, why wouldn't a man do this with his daughter?". The fact that some took it as some sort of personal attack speaks more about them then anything.
Now, for anyone who thinks I'm some sort of coward, latent homosexual, secret cross dresser or any of the other things you want or have called me, I know without a doubt that in person you would know immediately that you are wrong. Civility is sorely lacking in a few people. I'm not in my twenties, nor even my thirties, I'm rather old to be a father of a 6 year old, considering the life span of men in my family. I know that I will be lucky to see her become an adult let alone having grandchildren.
You all are more then welcome to take your best shot at me, but in the end you are no one to me, even less after some of the exchanges here. Now maybe you don't like my writing style, fair enough don't read it.
Originally posted by facchino
Fantastic - what a great post that really made me smile....
I like you am a single dad with 2 and 3 year old girls and although they haven't got the paint out like that yet I would probably do the same - I don't care less what people think anymore (I used to) but as long as you're having quality time with your kids thats all that matters..Try whizzing on the trolley down an aisle in the supermarket shouting weeeeeeeee - they love it but you dont half get some stares of people
As for the numpty who said you were spoiling her on page 1 (not read past that yet so don't know if he has had replies) but people like you are so sad.
Most parents know what the line is - but are you suggesting they should stop their children having fun and just being kids - great to see a parent actually interacting with their child and not just dropping them in front of a DVD and leaving them to it. Seriously what a ridiculous post to lower the tone of this topic - shame on you.
I didn't lower the "tone" of the topic , and excuse me ,but I do see a father who indulges his daughter in this manner , and enjoying the attention he gets when he goes out , as a bit of an odd type of attention seeker. All the rest of you who call it "quality time" bonding, I beg to differ.
Originally posted by gabby2011
I didn't lower the "tone" of the topic , and excuse me ,but I do see a father who indulges his daughter in this manner , and enjoying the attention he gets when he goes out , as a bit of an odd type of attention seeker. All the rest of you who call it "quality time" bonding, I beg to differ.
So what exactly do you consider quality time? No you didn't lower the tome, you alluded the the fact you thought it was inappropriate. What were you trying to say?
yet the fact that I in shared a brief moment in time that doesn't fit your supposed idea of a man means I don't do anything else with my daughter.
I think its wonderful a father spends time with his daughter..and I encourage them to do so. My dad taught me how to count and add, by teaching me crib...he taught me how to throw and catch a ball, as well as "nail" it with a bat. He took me swimming ,taught me how to ride a bike, and many other life lessons. Never once did he let me "do " his hair ,or paint his toes , but I sure remember what he did teach me. All very valuable to me as a kid.
I never said I enjoyed the attention what I said was I notice the attention and how people perceive a "man". You really are so stuck on yourself that you feel a need to bring everyone down. Well, hate to inform you, but you can not bring me down, I taught my daughter to swim, she's hiked to the top of the tallest mountain in the phoenix area, she's got 3 ant farms, she loves to lay on the ground and look at the sky with her great great grandfathers binoculars. The only thing I buy her is books, I am rather pleased to learn that you hate men so much that you feel the need to attack them at every opportunity. Kudos to you.
I can tell that many who have posted here would share similar stories, and others like you would sit off in a corner sulking because no one wanted to be around you. You total missed the point of my OP and that is all on you. You are nothing to me, nothing but text on a screen, and without a doubt aren't worth the time getting to even know, you are so judgemental and blind to the obvious its rather sad. I hope that one day you might find some peace in your life that you don't hate it so much. You have misread everything i have written and it just goes to show the nature of public educations role in dumbing down the sheepel. you have done nothing but attack me because you lack something in your life, and well, that's not my issue.
Nuroslam I read your post and all I can say is that when it comes time for me to settle down and have kids that I turn out to be exactly how you are
with your daughter, you show how much you care about your daughter and would easily sacrifice something of importance to make sure that your daughter
is happy.
You see all them parents out there but I actually think that some of them could learn a thing or two from you on how to properly be a parent, the TV isn't a babysitter.
You see all them parents out there but I actually think that some of them could learn a thing or two from you on how to properly be a parent, the TV isn't a babysitter.
reply to post by NuroSlam
First off as one father to another, here's to you brother!
To be a father is so much more than protecting and providing for your family. A father has to be the beginning and the end for his kids, the ever present and powerful person who will not only be there for them, but will always have the right answer, and always know what to do in any situation. The time you take with your daughter will be rewarded to you later in life with a wonderful relationship with her, which can be very difficult for dads with daughters.I have two sons by the way, so things are a little different, though I think we are going to try for a daughter in the next couple years (for some reason I wanted two sons and a daughter, guess so i could spoil her).
Anyway, my sons play with their moms makeup and stuff all the time, and the three of them just think its the best if they can paint my nails (these are boys mind you with mommy) and paint my face. I agree with you about women thinking its adorable, but the reactions I get from other fathers is much the same; a head nod and smile because all true fathers know. You can tell the single, child-less guys from their immature giggles and dirty looks. I say to them go sit at a bar somewhere and contemplate why your still a single @$$hole, I could give you a good idea why...
So heres to you my fellow living doll/bank/pillow/friend/monster/dad and everything else a father is. You are doing it right, from one dad to another.
To everyone on here taking a pessimistic approach to his statements, or your just plain being cynical, I ask you to walk a mile in our shoes. Once you have a kid your life, and everything about your life view, changes drastically.
First off as one father to another, here's to you brother!
To be a father is so much more than protecting and providing for your family. A father has to be the beginning and the end for his kids, the ever present and powerful person who will not only be there for them, but will always have the right answer, and always know what to do in any situation. The time you take with your daughter will be rewarded to you later in life with a wonderful relationship with her, which can be very difficult for dads with daughters.I have two sons by the way, so things are a little different, though I think we are going to try for a daughter in the next couple years (for some reason I wanted two sons and a daughter, guess so i could spoil her).
Anyway, my sons play with their moms makeup and stuff all the time, and the three of them just think its the best if they can paint my nails (these are boys mind you with mommy) and paint my face. I agree with you about women thinking its adorable, but the reactions I get from other fathers is much the same; a head nod and smile because all true fathers know. You can tell the single, child-less guys from their immature giggles and dirty looks. I say to them go sit at a bar somewhere and contemplate why your still a single @$$hole, I could give you a good idea why...
So heres to you my fellow living doll/bank/pillow/friend/monster/dad and everything else a father is. You are doing it right, from one dad to another.
To everyone on here taking a pessimistic approach to his statements, or your just plain being cynical, I ask you to walk a mile in our shoes. Once you have a kid your life, and everything about your life view, changes drastically.
Originally posted by Windows
Nuroslam I read your post and all I can say is that when it comes time for me to settle down and have kids that I turn out to be exactly how you are with your daughter, you show how much you care about your daughter and would easily sacrifice something of importance to make sure that your daughter is happy.
You see all them parents out there but I actually think that some of them could learn a thing or two from you on how to properly be a parent, the TV isn't a babysitter.
when I look at my daughter, I wonder what it would have been like if I had a father to do things with, true, i wouldn't paint his nails, I probably would have put a snake in his bed. I review my entire life and in no way want my daughter to do what i had to do, does that mean I don't impart to her what life lessons that I can? No, Its important to feel comfortable in who you are when you answer the questions of a child. And i do answer her questions, I have never said "because I said so". I have always been honest with her, one of the hardest things I had to do was explain to her why she would never see her great grandmother again. They adored each other and for whatever reason I was detached enough to explain life and death to her in a way that did not scare her nor trivialise it.
Originally posted by sliceNodice
Your kid will become spoiled rotten, you know that right?A lesson that has been long forgotten in the west. Perhaps that is why these men think you shouldn't pander to your daughters every desire. It's one thing to love your daughter more than anything in the world, it's another thing to be blinded by love and make foolish decisions that will hurt your child dearly in the long run.
Eventually, your daughter will grow to expect these things from you. She will be astonished when you tell her you have a very important business meeting to attend that could cost you your job, and you are sorry you can't make her birthday. She will hate you for it, she will abuse you until you feel like **** and never forgive you. She will tell all her friends the story and conveniently leave out some details because she is a lying scumbag due to your bad parenting. She will struggle in her life because of her huge personality flaws and endure endless amounts of pain.
If you really love your daughter, you will stay focused, and make the right decision based on thought, and not emotion, like a real man.
This is a personal attack from a neanderthal who, IMO, is an imposer of rotten, out of date, antique ideals who wanted his daughters so far away from him that he behaves this way in order to achieve it. I wonder how his regrets will treat him in his old age when his daughters sing "The Cat's In the Cradle" by Harry Chapin on the phone when he can't lift a spoon.
We always remember!
Originally posted by MJZoo
I change my daughters diapers and dress her.
I've only been a Dad for 8 days
Happy Fathers Day!
Congratulations! Many blessings and best wishes to you and your new family.
Happy belated Father's Day to all you guys
reply to post by DaWhiz
That is such an awesome song that does get to the core of what a father is, my hats off to you for the reference. I really don't like the music of my youth in genera,l but that is one song that did have an impact in who i am today
That is such an awesome song that does get to the core of what a father is, my hats off to you for the reference. I really don't like the music of my youth in genera,l but that is one song that did have an impact in who i am today
reply to post by NuroSlam
Stars and flags for you, my friend. If I had a daughter, I would do the same things as you. This world is good at forcing our children to "grow up" at an early age. When that time comes, she will look to you for guidance, knowing that you have always been there in the past. Fathers like you do not need a day in June. Every day is father's day.
Stars and flags for you, my friend. If I had a daughter, I would do the same things as you. This world is good at forcing our children to "grow up" at an early age. When that time comes, she will look to you for guidance, knowing that you have always been there in the past. Fathers like you do not need a day in June. Every day is father's day.
reply to post by NuroSlam
When I had long hair in college, I always let the female singers in the band play with my hair, put make up on me, paint my fingernails etc. They wanted to, I didn't mind it and hell, I still wouldn't mind.
You get your men who would say "no way, screw that" but I'm always up for a laugh and besides, I'm comfortable in my masculinity to allow female friends, family members and girlfriends to treat me like their own personal spa visitor if they wish. I guess people forget that deep down, when it comes to that kind of thing, women are still that little girl who likes to experiment with mascara and blusher and use a sort of "victim" in the loosest sense of the word, whether it's someone who fell asleep at the wrong time or a willing participant.
Why not let them while the fairer sex put up with our behaviour when it comes to sports, movies and videogames?
When I had long hair in college, I always let the female singers in the band play with my hair, put make up on me, paint my fingernails etc. They wanted to, I didn't mind it and hell, I still wouldn't mind.
You get your men who would say "no way, screw that" but I'm always up for a laugh and besides, I'm comfortable in my masculinity to allow female friends, family members and girlfriends to treat me like their own personal spa visitor if they wish. I guess people forget that deep down, when it comes to that kind of thing, women are still that little girl who likes to experiment with mascara and blusher and use a sort of "victim" in the loosest sense of the word, whether it's someone who fell asleep at the wrong time or a willing participant.
Why not let them while the fairer sex put up with our behaviour when it comes to sports, movies and videogames?
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