the hole in the pentagon..is the big hole in the 911 story

I agree with you on the Pentagram, er, I mean the Pentagon...

NORAD being caught with their pants down shows utter and complete incompetence to say the least. They are more comfortable letting us believe they are more incompetent than capable of murdering...

This is the Pentagon we're talking about. 85 cameras+ the ones confiscated and never released.

What they are trying to protect is continuity of their DASTARD Regime.

The writing is on the wall, are we that illiterate?

Originally posted by dubiousone

Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by eagleeye2
The more logical explanation i found 6 years ago is this www.fas.org...

Now for me, i'm 100%sure this is the thing who hit the pentagon

Then how do you explain the 757 engine, seats, wheels and undercarriage etc and bodies coming from flight 77?

I would post the video of the burned bodies but that is way too graphic and disrespectful, most of them were identified and were confirmed passengers on flight 77. To think anything else but flight 77 hit the Pentagon is laughable at best.

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That's funny. Didn't you just say in your own thread a day or so ago that Flight 77 "liquified" when it struck and entered the Pentagon? Now you're saying that although it "liquified" when it entered, lots of the stuff that was liquified got reconstituted once inside? Sort of like that liquid metal terminator robot in the last Arnold Schwarzteneger Terminator movie. Interesting theory indeed!

You are making the assumption that I said the whole thing liquified which is impossible due the debris found, I actually specifically said MOST of it (which is evident by lack of large debris). And the liquidation isn't a just some theory of mine its part of the public report of what happened so don't act like your attempts to discrediting me discredits the cold hard facts. Jesus man.

I can't locate the photo just yet, but what do you suppose was hidden under the blue tarp being carted-off?
And those indestructible "data-recorders?"

Failing to conduct a proper investigation, just like with JFK a "commission" was formulated to appease the sheeple...

There are more holes in the OS and NIST than the years I've dragged my lazy arse around this God forsaken planet!

witness statements from someone's posted link:


Abshire, Marc: "...I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke."


Battle:

"...came from behind us and banked to the right and went into the Pentagon."


Bauer, Gary: "And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment."

Originally posted by wlasikiewicz
There are countless animations made to disprove this but 95% of the people are right, there was no plane.

This is a stupid thing for me to focus on, but what the heck. I'll do it.

Are you really claiming that 95% of people think it was not a plane? Or are you claiming that 95% of the posters in this thread think it was not a plane?

Even if it is hyperbole, that is way over the top.

A mod should make a poll.

To really see what the general populace thinks.

Originally posted by litterbaux
A mod should make a poll.

To really see what the general populace thinks.

Well considering this is the 911 CONSPIRACY section, obviously most people here believe in the CONSPIRACY the poll would be bias. But I forgot conspiracy theorists never look at all the factors and will do anything to make them create the illusions they are ahead, like a bias poll for instance lol

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by dilapidated
of the actual hole in the pentagon proves that it was not hit by a plane
its simply not big enough,

Which very silly conspiracy theory site did you get the claim that the plane entered through the hole in your link?

have a look at the Pentagon, then have a look at the wall in your picture - notice a difference?

the "truthers" get sillier every day!

They even get the measurements of the plane wrong in the video!

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I have a video of the pentagon exploding and guess what?? there's not a plane in site........and witnesses say that the plane came down on a completely different flight path than so called evidence states, then it took off again just before the explosion.

You Guys drive me nuts with your 9.11.
Whoever is behind it knew, this event would confuse us that much, that we would argue about it for the rest of our lifes and then die, with wich the matter would be laid to rest.

Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever

Originally posted by litterbaux
A mod should make a poll.

To really see what the general populace thinks.

Well considering this is the 911 CONSPIRACY section, obviously most people here believe in the CONSPIRACY the poll would be bias. But I forgot conspiracy theorists never look at all the factors and will do anything to make them create the illusions they are ahead, like a bias poll for instance lol

Wow even this nonsense you're defending.

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I have always said that a missle hit the pentagon.A certain office of us navy commnications was the target.They blamed that on bin laden to cover the real perpose of the attack by the cia.

Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever


Check out some other threads and I show debunking of every 911 conspiracy theory, there all the sham and were disproven in 2007.

Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever

I'm not a troll because I actually believe what I'm saying and I'm not trying to lie to anyone, if that was true would I have told you the reason I go here? Its clear 911 was not an inside job, these theories were debunked in 2004 so its amuses me why people still believe them in 2011...so sue me?.

so which is it skeptic?> 2007? or 2004? this is what I'm talking about. You dont pay attention to what you are saying.. you dont pay attention to the evidence you provide.. you sir, are causing more problems for victims then those questioning the events.

wake up.. and leave

Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever

Originally posted by litterbaux
A mod should make a poll.

To really see what the general populace thinks.

Well considering this is the 911 CONSPIRACY section, obviously most people here believe in the CONSPIRACY the poll would be bias. But I forgot conspiracy theorists never look at all the factors and will do anything to make them create the illusions they are ahead, like a bias poll for instance lol

Actually, most of us here aren't weak collectivists, who need to feel like part of the herd.

Like you said earlier, you like to feel like part of the mainstream, and that's fine. But you should probably admit you are wrong.

Also, how about you U2U this "undeniable" evidence of these Holocaust gas chambers, you keep blabbing about.

I could care less if I stand alone for the truth, or have a hundred thousand behind me. I'm still going to seek the truth.

reply to post by General.Lee

I don't even have to look at the links. That has been my stand all along. An airliner cannot cleanly penetrate nine feet of steel-reinforced concrete and leave a clean, nearly perfectly round hole on the other side. Period. And, there was nothing left to indicate exactly what left the hole! Where did it go?

9 ft of concrete? What ? Do you think the Pentagon is some kind of bunker? Its an OFFICE BUILDING!

The Pentagon walls were brick - reason was to save steel for the WWII. Exterior wall (E Ring) had a facade
of limestone for esthetic purposes

"When the Pentagon was designed and built in the early 1940s," reflected Walter Lee Evey, director of the Pentagon Renovation Program Office, "there were a number of concessions made to a country at war. The original designers exercised economies in construction to lessen the impact on strategic materials needed to equip the military." The extensive use of reinforced concrete and non-reinforced masonry was one concession. Certainly the threat of any kind of terrorist attack on the building was far from the thoughts of the original designers. As a result, the Pentagon was constructed with a thin limestone facade over a brick infill between reinforced concrete floors, structurally supported by a reinforced concrete beam and column frame. Enough to protect from the elements but not from the potential forces of significant blast events

reply to post by mac420

Thats not to mention the fact that here was ZERO debris from the plane, no bodies, no luggage, no engines no nothing!

No bodies?

Explain how they recovered wedding ring from tje Pentagon and gave it back to victim husband - dont you
think would know his wife's wedding ring

"Suzanne Calley died aboard American Airlines Flight 77 when terrorists hijacked the plane and sent it crashing into the Pentagon... Rescue crews were able to pull Calley's body from Flight 77's wreckage. Jensen [Calley's husband] spent last year's anniversary of the national tragedy in Washington, D.C. There, a Pentagon official - assigned to Calley's family as a liaison - gave Jensen his wife's wedding ring, which had been recovered from the plane."[

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Oh no, they wont release any documents concerning the headquarters for US department of defence. I wonder why that would be.

Also, regarding the plane not fitting:

reply to post by mac420


Here are pictures of engines recovered inside the Pentagon

www.aerospaceweb.org...

thanks for all the interest and replies people,
the pentagon has always got my attention in the whole 911 saga
although there is some evidence towards the media story being true
you have to admit that there is a lot of heavy evidence against it, non heavier then actually looking at the pictures yourself..it seems fairly obvious to me that the damage could not have been caused by a passenger plane..from all the research i have conducted there was actually no proof of plane debris or bodies at all..attempting to bank a plane into a low building such as the pentagon would be an amazing skill considering the hijackers would not know where they are, wouldn’t it be more realistic if it skimmed the top and went further into the pentagon’s structure?

this incident was heavily hidden by the media so it is inevitable it doesn’t get as much attention from the public..
I’ve only just joined this website and its obvious that the 911 debate is still going strong (too right, the truth needs to be admitted)
so lets focus on the pentagon, although it obviously would have been talked about many times before..i believe that exposing this fraud could lie in the evidence regarding the pentagon..it just doesn’t add up..

anyway. take care people

" The mainstream scientific community does not support the controlled demolition hypothesis and U.S. officials, mainstream journalists, and mainstream researchers have concluded that only al-Qaeda was involved in the attacks."

Are you referring to that list of "experts," which included some of the whickiest jobs out there? That list was laughable in the extreme.

Mainstream researchers? Really? You make it sound like the majority of actual professionals believe this to be an inside job. That isn't the case at all.

The funniest bit about the Pentagon, is all the "experts" who have supposedly studied this at great depth, all have a different idea of what really happened. It was a flyover! Wait.. no.. a different jet crashed into the building! Wait.. no.. actually it was a missile! Um.. or no plane at all, and an explosion! Yea.. real experts. They all think they are absolutely right, and of course, they all can't be. They are guessing, admit it.

The hole in the Pentagon is the major hole in the 911 story. I wouldn't throw my vacuum cleaner, which has a very distinct shape, through my wall, and expect it to leave a hole the size of a grapefruit while somehow having my vacuum disintegrate into nothing and leaving no trace of it's existence. i don't care how fast it's going. Sounds kinda funny, i know, but there ya go. Come on people.