Gay Marriage Will Lead To 'Anarchy'

Originally posted by Qumulys
Well, this is all kinds of insulting on so many levels. I am a single father, raising 2 girls all by myself, I am also permanently disabled in a wheelchair. If I may blow my own trumpet for a minute, I will say both my daughters are intelligent, respectful and thoughtful and everyday our little family of three grows and learns. So, why on earth 2 fathers (or mothers) cant do what I've done is completely beyond me.

Maybe that ball did some damage when it hit his head....

Qumulys, God bless you man and thank you for sharing. Once in a while I read a little story like yours and its a quiet reminder that there are so many doing so much in spite of hardships. You inspire me both for your physical ability and having your head on straight. Providence blessed your girls with a Good Dad

As for our football catching friend, I think he needs a little inspiration in his life too. Hopefully the day will come when he can stop hating and just admit the truth: it's killing him that he can't soap up all the other players in the team showers. Come out of the closet, Pro Baller. No need to hate. Find yourself a nice guy, settle down, enjoy life. We've only got a little time on Earth.

We've had gay marriage in South Africa since 2006.
Far from leading to anarchy, it's made the whole gay issue pretty boring and mundane.
It's really been quite an anti-climax and a non-event compared to the outrage from the religious industries that preceded it.
Only the odd celebrity gay divorce still raises a footnote in the press.

I don't think there's even any group that makes a point of getting gay marriage revoked, so banal and boring has the issue turned out. There's still groups who speak out against homosexuality in general, considering that they have little else to capitalize on, but one hardly hears gay marriage mentioned at all.

Homophobic attacks and misogynist gender violence remains a big problem, especially in the black townships.
But generally most people get the idea: if you don't like gay marriage then don't marry somebody of the same sex.

Another person who does not actually understand the ideology of true anarchism. Just because there is no government laws does not mean that there are not natural laws, those of Life Liberty and Property. Something it would appear you either do not believe in or do not understand the nature of, as you are so willing to strip people whom you don't agree with of.

I'm a fond student of natural philosophy, so your words are not wasted, but the end virtues which you speak can be obtained under any workable government system which doesn't ignore basic human rights. To plug anarchy above all, and as the most desirable system than any in existance, sounds very near-sighted to me. What about a Libertarian government or variant, a healthy republic, a benevolent ascendacy (where it's headed) or a true theocracy under God? I immediately disagree that you can draw that I'm "willing to strip rights from people" because I mention something about anarchy likely terminating in violence. That's like saying the fisherman is responsible for the weight of his catch. On that possibility, if you don't have any central or overseeing government, then you will lose out on many vast macro-benefits that a state-facilitated rulership offers by way of cost-effectiveness, organization and tracking, logistics, trade-based funding, emergency preparedness, and so forth that might not be accessable unless society proved itself capable of organizing itself with respect and reaching across it's many borders to embrace the growing community prescences. Centralized government will be reborn again, I predict, because we have learned the lessons of the ancient Greeks that point out the multiple vulnerabilities of the city states. I think it's against humanities fulfillment ideals to not strive for some form of utopia, that has its own cultures held intact, and secure. If it concerns any that I mention "state-facilitated", I mean nothing beyond the definition to avoid the emotional implications.

Yet at no point have you shown any respect in this thread. And I'm sorry to inform you but being angry with someone just because they are gay is hate. But you are free to hate whoever you like. You get what you give.

And you are the one sounding all worked up, not me. No, being angry with someone over them being gay is not immediately hate. It clearly constitutes defiance, and one element of defiance is a lack of tolerance for an abscence of virtues. If I blend patience and understanding with an unending defiance towards the lack of virtue I perceive, and at long length consider - not the sour definitions of a worty propaganda scheme aimed at a lame-duck mediocrity, a homogenization of terms both good and evil cunningly twisted together - then I can definately nail a few points the other side and and come out smiling. Not smiling because I like insulting people, but pleased that the issue got brought up again, and it wasn't so bandwagon a soapbox to stand out once a few keen points about "the gay agenda" get pointed out. The only ones who make it obnoxious are those who jump on the hate trail themselves, and start the retardation of labels, once again. Gay agenda is character assassination, to slay the image of those who contest the least of it's contentious points. Why so touchy?

You are more then entitled to your opinion, but we all know the old saying about opinions...... Its to bad that you think Life, Liberty and Property are hyped politically correct opinions.

At least have the decency to equate one dislike with another dislike. I don't know too many people who are against life, liberty, and property ownership. I think solid working ethics and inner form integrity, captured in any decent, survivable form, is the way to earn those God-given rights, from Him. To me, that's better than any politically correct notion there is!

I don't think the state should be involved in marriage either, as for two men or two woman not being able to raise kids...well that sort of logic has more holes than a sieve, many single parents raise kids whether they are male or female and do a great job, i do however think that both genders should have a role in upbringing a child, but that can happen with friends and family, which it always does anyway whether you are straight and married, gay and married or a single parent.

Gay Marriage would give our military a pay raise!

If you were a E-nothing seaman in the US Navy wouldn't you "marry" a buddy so you could move out of the barracks and get free $$$$ every month to rent a HOUSE?

You'd also get paid extra every month to buy real food and wouldn't have to eat chow hall food anymore.

PLUS is you get deployed away from your "spouse" you'd get paid extra the "Separation Pay".

Gay Marriage would force the US Navy to park half it's carrier battle groups. Every seaman would marry each other to make more $$$$$$

Originally posted by Elsek
"Tyree also said two men or two women were incapable of raising a child"

That is the most untrue thing I have ever heard.

God told him to say that!

IRM

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Yep, in this case, anarchy is the answer. There is no sensible reason why government needs to be involved in regulating marriage. This would solve gay marriage, human-animal and human-object marriage, polygamy/polyandry and who knows what other non-issues..

Originally posted by Pervius
If you were a E-nothing seaman in the US Navy wouldn't you "marry" a buddy so you could move out of the barracks and get free $$$$ every month to rent a HOUSE?

Straight marriage is legal. Is there a big problem with military people entering into straight marriages to make more money? Your invention of problems is about on par with "Next thing you know, they'll want to marry their car"! In other words, it's lame beyond belief!

Originally posted by Maslo
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Yep, in this case, anarchy is the answer. There is no sensible reason why government needs to be involved in regulating marriage. This would solve gay marriage, human-animal and human-object marriage, polygamy/polyandry and who knows what other non-issues..

An animal cannot give consent to have sex(other than humans) so bestiality is rape in the end, an object like a car or blowup doll is not a sentient living being so a guy or woman can marry whatever inanimate object they like.... and i have personally never seen a problem with polygamy if all parties involved decide freely to do so, none of my business basically.

Yes gay marriage will make the Johns and Pastor Johns pay fair and equatable rates for male prostitution.

It is strange how human trafficking effects business efforts around the Churches, What more would I expect

With scripture about selling sons and daughters. Probably not human rights,

I send you out to go forth and multiply not divide and subtract that would be science and science is the enemy.

Now I shall swing sexuality with the wrath of god from my bully pulpit at the weak and disadvantaged.

Tell your civil onion society that America should be free find Jesus where you left him.

Oh no the gays are coming the gays are coming! Seriously people need to find soething real to whine about. The end of society thanks to gays? LMAO! Someone just wants to be heard that's all


Honestly I don't understand why the gay issue still exists.

We live in medieval times, with iGadgets instead of chain mail. *puke*

I would like someone to post a list of all the countries that allow same-sex marriage, and the state of anarchy they are in...I just can't seem to find any...

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One too many forearms to the head, I suspect.

Go play arena football, Mr. Tyree.

It's more your speed now.

Lol, seems to have escaped his notice just how well kids in poor area's are being brought up by hetrosexual couples. Ahh well, just another example of someone thinking they know whats best for everyone else. Move along if you have seen it before (Y)

Originally posted by Qumulys
Well, this is all kinds of insulting on so many levels. I am a single father, raising 2 girls all by myself, I am also permanently disabled in a wheelchair. If I may blow my own trumpet for a minute, I will say both my daughters are intelligent, respectful and thoughtful and everyday our little family of three grows and learns. So, why on earth 2 fathers (or mothers) cant do what I've done is completely beyond me.

Maybe that ball did some damage when it hit his head....

I am not in a wheelchair yet had three kids fibromyalgia and now MS a single mother from when the youngest was eight, like yourself my kids are great.

Good parenting is what is required nothing to do with gender imho.

Originally posted by NuroSlam
Civilised man has no need to be governed, so where is the rest of the civilised?

Humans are just another species of wild animal. We are only ''civilised'' through a set of social and cultural rules which are enforced and regulated by an authoritative body.

While your point that so-called ''civilised'' people do not need to be governed may actually be true, you are neglecting one glaringly important fact: uncivilised people do need to be governed.

If any child is discriminated against for having parents of the same gender, it will be because of public expressions of prejudiced opinion such as this.

It is like trying to make sure that gay parents will have the hardest time raising children as possible, if they have to deal not only with stress of parenting, but with all this crap too.

Who cares what David Tyree has to say.
Besides that one catch he did nothing in his career (54 catches and 4 touchdowns in 7 seasons) and pretty much had to retire, because no one wanted him anymore.

I think it is simply him just trying to gain some attention, missing the days when he was talked about for the luckiest catch ever.

Reminds me of this skit by Dave Chappelle about stop worshiping celebrities

Overwhelmingly voicing options is not public discourse it is harassment. Probably the same opinationation that overlooked murdering people in mass in mental asylums, for social acceptance. Reason is civil unreasonable is
the lack of reason.

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Well, at least we got the info staright out of an expert's mouth. Here's an idea...all football players are hiding their gayness by bulking up and pretending to be tough. Football is played by all gay men and therefor the end of the world is coming. Is this news? Why isn't my misinformed and potentially dangerous opinion being given notice? Also, did you know, man-horse marriage, despite what they said about it, has NOT lead to anarchy?

CJ