Gay Marriage Will Lead To 'Anarchy'

NEW YORK - Former New York Giants wide receiver David Tyree -- best known for making a famous catch against his helmet during Super Bowl XLII -- spoke out against gay marriage Wednesday, claiming it is the first step towards "anarchy." In an interview with anti-gay group the National Organization for Marriage, Tyree also said two men or two women were incapable of raising a child, TMZ reported.

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I couldn't agree more! Get government out of marriage and the idea of loving relationships. Anarchy in my time? I can hope.

Civilised man has no need to be governed, so where is the rest of the civilised?

"Tyree also said two men or two women were incapable of raising a child"

That is the most untrue thing I have ever heard.

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The man appears to be a complete idiot, no wonder he played football instead of holding a job that actually required a brain

Spoken like a true bigot.
Why does he care and why does he think that what he says will matter, real life troll.

Live and let live I say.
Welcome to the future.

Well, this is all kinds of insulting on so many levels. I am a single father, raising 2 girls all by myself, I am also permanently disabled in a wheelchair. If I may blow my own trumpet for a minute, I will say both my daughters are intelligent, respectful and thoughtful and everyday our little family of three grows and learns. So, why on earth 2 fathers (or mothers) cant do what I've done is completely beyond me.

Maybe that ball did some damage when it hit his head....

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Football players were never selected because of their intelligence.

And my hats of to you sir, much respect.
But please don't add another man in the house your kids will end up on deathrow

Again much respect for you friend,
OnlyLove

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Semantics.

Don't bring 9/11 or religion into this.
That was his opinion, don't force yours on others.

Thanks,
OnlyLove

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Its not been proven that a god doesnt/does exist...same with the 9/11 OS...'

It HAS been proven and Ive seen it with my own eyes that Gays and Lesbians are just as capable of raising a child as you or me.

I am annoyed that the issue itself isn't spelled out in the Op, but a celebrity opinion was ... what a better opportunity to defame someone for holding an opposing opinion to your own, then frame them as a bigot in the same succinct wrap-up!

The real issue is as follows, unless you're trolling the waters here for more headway on your "rivalry".

The issue of same-sex unions is currently under the spotlight in New York, with the state assembly late Wednesday passing a gay marriage bill that will next go before state senators.

Recent polls have indicated that more than 50 percent of New Yorkers support gay marriage, The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this week.

That means that 50 percent *don't* support your cause, and I wonder why you don't wonder why the msn swings the way they do in their interview preferences. Perhaps they would find more positive feedback from their own supporters, but I think the greater point to make is, now you know what side the media moguls support. So why worry? With the whole NWO backing gay causes, and setting their teeth against Christian mores in the process, you should find it rather easy to lose yourself in the upcoming masses of the next pro-gay generations.


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Originally posted by NuroSlam

Civilised man has no need to be governed, so where is the rest of the civilised?

Do you honestly think that everyone else is civilized?

Anyway...how they come to that conclusion is beyond me. How is it that having two adults of the same sex having the opportunity to marry will lead to anarchy? Where is the logic behind that? Homosexuality is not hurting anyone...It's not invading anyone's privacy or taking away anyone's rights. This is just BS from the religious right...and BS seems to always be their biggest export.

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Homosexuality is not hurting anyone...It's not invading anyone's privacy or taking away anyone's rights.

Keep plugging that tired line if you want; it sounds fine on the surface, white-washes everything, and was said in a netshell for us to absorb. I wonder how many shades of reality away from the truth that statement actually is.

Originally posted by Northwarden
I am annoyed that the issue itself isn't spelled out in the Op, but a celebrity opinion was ... what a better opportunity to defame someone for holding an opposing opinion to your own, then frame them as a bigot in the same succinct wrap-up!

The real issue is as follows, unless you're trolling the waters here for more headway on your "rivalry".

the issue for me, since you failed to catch it in the title of the post and my response, is quite simple, Government has no "right" to be in the "business" of love and marriage.

That means that 50 percent *don't* support your cause, and I wonder why you don't wonder why the msn swings the way they do in their interview preferences. Perhaps they would find more positive feedback from their own supporters, but I think the greater point to make is, now you know what side the media moguls support. So why worry? With the whole NWO backing gay causes, and setting their teeth against Christian mores in the process, you should find it rather easy to lose yourself in the upcoming masses of the next pro-gay generations.

what cause is that pray tell? Personally, marriage ruins a great relationship. I have no "gay" agenda, I don't care what anyone does unless it involves violence. Now if gay marriage were to actually lead to Anarchy, then bring it on!

The only solution to Government is Anarchy

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What are you saying...do you personally feel threated by gay marriage? I know why though and I can guess it goes hand in hand with studies that show homophobic men are more aroused by gay porn. There's a lot of self-hate out there.

Originally posted by Northwarden
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Homosexuality is not hurting anyone...It's not invading anyone's privacy or taking away anyone's rights.

Keep plugging that tired line if you want; it sounds fine on the surface, white-washes everything, and was said in a netshell for us to absorb. I wonder how many shades of reality away from the truth that statement actually is.

Why don't you explain to all of us "liberals" how it does hurt someone? I can think of only one way, when your child comes to you and says "Dad, I think I'm gay" your going to beat the straight into him

Originally posted by laiguana
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What are you saying...do you personally feel threated by gay marriage? I know why though and I can guess it goes hand in hand with studies that show homophobic men are more aroused by gay porn. There's a lot of self-hate out there.

Each to their own, it doesn't bother me too much about the issue considering it's two consenting adults involved. As to the thread you refer to, I didn't choose to read it much, and found the study premise distasteful enough not to touch. On that off-topic point, "homophobic" is a gay movement term I don't agree represents straight people well, nor does it uphold any more relevance than the subjective, viral, and biased applications it was intended for. Please keep believing these so-called sociological experts if you will, but buyer beware on the philosophy behind. Your statement basically says "A portion of men who watch gay porn, but who are strongly against gay acts, are 'more' aroused". What garbage, and care to explain why a non-gay person is watching that anyway?

Disgusting! Imo

Originally posted by NuroSlam

NEW YORK - Former New York Giants wide receiver David Tyree -- best known for making a famous catch against his helmet during Super Bowl XLII -- spoke out against gay marriage Wednesday, claiming it is the first step towards "anarchy." In an interview with anti-gay group the National Organization for Marriage, Tyree also said two men or two women were incapable of raising a child, TMZ reported.

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I couldn't agree more! Get government out of marriage and the idea of loving relationships. Anarchy in my time? I can hope.

Civilised man has no need to be governed, so where is the rest of the civilised?

I have to say I will agree we need anarchy, unfortunately people on our continent are too fricken lame to see between the lines. America is way too brainwashed with all of our crap, that we will never rise up against the government. Which to me is very sad, i want to see chaos!!! hahah.

Should the government be involve in marriage? IMO, No. But they ARE. Getting government out of marriage and extending equal protection under the law to gay people are two different subjects and I support both.

Besides, you don't need the government to make a lifelong commitment to someone. If you don't want the government involved in your marriage, then DON'T APPLY TO THEM FOR A LICENSE! Just find a nice place in the woods and recite your vows to each other and declare yourself married! I don't understand why people bitch about government's intrusion when they go out and ASK for it by applying to the state for a marriage license. No one if forcing you to do that. It's 100% voluntary!

I don't know who this Mr. Tyree is, but his bigoted and ignorant opinion means no more to me than Britney's opinion on marriage. Perhaps less. It's clear he doesn't know what he's talking about. Same sex couples raise kids all the time. And many single parents do a damn fine job, too. I wonder if they asked him the meaning of anarchy... Sounds like he's repeating something he read on Stormfront or something. Who cares what he thinks about marriage or equality?

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the issue for me, since you failed to catch it in the title of the post and my response, is quite simple, Government has no "right" to be in the "business" of love and marriage.

Yet the Vatican has been the house of all Catholic marriages, is itself a ruling government with international jurisdiction, and has had its hand in marriage since it's inception. If the state is pointed out, there's common law - which isn't going away anytime soon, and Vegas for the rest. Does it really matter that the process is institutionalized by a faction that has some ruling role? Should we simply call it by another term than government through some double-speak? Should we privatize the whole business, or is this just one more silly thing to complain about?

what cause is that pray tell? Personally, marriage ruins a great relationship. I have no "gay" agenda, I don't care what anyone does unless it involves violence. Now if gay marriage were to actually lead to Anarchy, then bring it on!

You claim to be against violence and to support anarchy, practically in the same statement - amazing. Now, if you take away all societal law, to be replaced with regional despotism, petty partisanship, city-states, and barbaric rule, do you really think it won't culminate in violence?

Why don't you explain to all of us "liberals" how it does hurt someone? I can think of only one way, when your child comes to you and says "Dad, I think I'm gay" your going to beat the straight into him

Yes, that would fall tragic on my ears, but there's also no harm done in presenting a counter-opinion. in all fairness, were it "my son" in question, there's only one set of parents involved. Since that isn't you, or the state, the point is "mind your own business" and mote. It certainly doesn't have to include heavy-handed tactics - which is all a slap, a punch, or a brow-beating, tyranical outrage ever really is.

As to harms done, how about the typical lack of respect lower-educated/immature gay men seem to have for others spiritual boundaries, their ignorance of others intimacy levels which seems to be a growing over-ride point, and their endless insistence that we are somehow "bigots" or "homo-haters" for showing anger at overt sexual advances over clearly marked lines in the sand. There is no personal horror story for me, just a heap of resistance efforts - the few ruining for the many comes to mind, but so does the thought that the few are becoming the many. Once messed up members of the gay cause show genuine respect instead of displaying these chronic faults which tend to degrade the lives around them, one second at a time, with their chronic faults, in the name of this mis-arrayed "cause", will I excuse them for their pig-headed perspective. It leaves so many heads high with pride that they are too blind to see the disgusting effect they have on their neighbours, friends, and perhaps families. Those who are mature enough to control their social "urges", I commend.

I admit that I generally despise the hyped politically-correct opinion on quite a number of matters, especially this one. Why object? Because we have a voice to, and it helps knowing that a lousy war of propaganda exists against anyone who dares speak their mind out.

Originally posted by Northwarden
Yet the Vatican has been the house of all Catholic marriages, is itself a ruling government with international jurisdiction, and has had its hand in marriage since it's inception. If the state is pointed out, there's common law - which isn't going away anytime soon, and Vegas for the rest. Does it really matter that the process is institutionalized by a faction that has some ruling role? Should we simply call it by another term than government through some double-speak? Should we privatize the whole business, or is this just one more silly thing to complain about?

Being an Atheist as well as an Anarchist I really don't care what those who believe in religion believe, think or do, again, unless it results in violence or the threat of violence. As someone above said, take it to the woods say your vows and be done with it. However because government regulations dictate private business, those who wish the same "positive rights" that "normal" people have are unable to in most states.

You claim to be against violence and to support anarchy, practically in the same statement - amazing. Now, if you take away all societal law, to be replaced with regional despotism, petty partisanship, city-states, and barbaric rule, do you really think it won't culminate in violence?

Another person who does not actually understand the ideology of true anarchism. Just because there is no government laws does not mean that there are not natural laws, those of Life Liberty and Property. Something it would appear you either do not believe in or do not understand the nature of, as you are so willing to strip people whom you don't agree with of.

As to harms done, how about the typical lack of respect lower-educated/immature gay men seem to have for others spiritual boundaries, their ignorance of others intimacy levels which seems to be a growing over-ride point, and their endless insistence that we are somehow "bigots" or "homo-haters" for showing anger ......

Yet at no point have you shown any respect in this thread. And I'm sorry to inform you but being angry with someone just because they are gay is hate. But you are free to hate whoever you like. You get what you give.

I admit that I generally despise the hyped politically-correct opinion on quite a number of matters, especially this one. Why object? Because we have a voice to, and it helps knowing that a lousy war of propaganda against anyone who dares speak their mind out.

You are more then entitled to your opinion, but we all know the old saying about opinions...... Its to bad that you think Life, Liberty and Property are hyped politically correct opinions.