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even if that was aluminum, it is still indicative of temperatures hotter than the fires in the towers.
Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by Bob Sholtz
even if that was aluminum, it is still indicative of temperatures hotter than the fires in the towers.
Pure aluminium melts at 660 C (1220 F) - alloys used in aircraft 2024 and 7075 melt at (500 C - 932 F) and
635 c (1175 F)
Explain how this is hotter than a normal fire
Even a normal vehicle fire in the engine compartment the aluminium radiator is melted
Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever
Originally posted by MasterAndrew
you are deluded. ever heard of physics. Look it up.
No offense but if you continue to think the weren't demolished. It just proves they could rely on how gullible people like you are.
Ever heard of gravity? Look it up.....I Swear some people believe every outrages theory they believe on the internet like a drone.
Originally posted by GenRadek
Planes had...... nothing.... to do with the collapses????
ANOK, are you serious, or just pulling our legs?
Why should the floors below the impact floors have been compromised?
What does that matter? The truss failures started at the impact area, and then as the top section began its descent, it caused each and every floor below it to fail.
ANOK, do you even know or understand the design of the WTC, and how its design may be the cause of why it collapsed the way it did? And why must you be so adamant that the planes were suppose to compromise ALL the steel in the building in order for it to fail?
The reason why it collapsed the way it did is because of how the floors (and here I am talking about the truss supported floor section) were connected to the exterior columns. The force of the top section collapsing down was more than enough to dislodge and snap off the floor truss/exterior column connections.
In fact there is plenty of evidence of the entire floor truss seat being clean shaved off the exterior column on many samples.
Also, the force of the collapse pushed the exterior columns away like an arrow being split by another arrow. It snapped the connections and allowed for a more rapid collapse of the floors. And yes, once collapse started, the floors pancaked onto each other. Where the hell else were they going to go? Up?
NIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse
Are you saying the plane impact did not do that much damage to the steel inside? are you saying over all the structure or the impacted area? Cause the damage areas looked pretty bad prior to collapse.
However, the building did incur some serious twisting and torquing after impact, and I'm pretty sure, that is not good for the structure itself either.
Originally posted by waypastvne
reply to post by ANOK
The NIST report also says this:
“… the structure below the level of collapse initiation offered minimal resistance to the falling building mass at and above the impact zone. The potential energy released by the downward movement of the large building mass far exceeded the capacity of the intact structure below to absorb that energy through energy of deformation.
Originally posted by waypastvne
reply to post by ANOK
The NIST report also says this:
“… the structure below the level of collapse initiation offered minimal resistance to the falling building mass at and above the impact zone. The potential energy released by the downward movement of the large building mass far exceeded the capacity of the intact structure below to absorb that energy through energy of deformation.
Originally posted by doubledutch
reply to post by thedman
no I think you miss understand
the molten metal poring from the building was red hot - a normal office fire (and that is what it was, the jet fuel burnt off in minutes) does not get hot enough to do that, although it may get hot enough to melt aluminum it is still not hot enough to turn it red hot...
So the question is how did it get that hot in there
and the answer is nano thermate - theres no other explanation
Originally posted by Devino
reply to post by esdad71
Why is it that when someone explains the impossibility for the towers to collapse in on themselves without demolitions there is someone who wants to smash fingers and hands with a hammer? I don't understand how this is relevant.
Try this scenario. Stack 10 concrete cinder blocks on top of one another. Take the top two and drop them from a designated height onto the ones below. When this fails to give your desired results go ahead and increase the height. When you get to a height that allows the two blocks to destroy the other eight that are stacked on the ground let me know.