2 more SuperVolcs added today 1th June

OK, I know many of you here don't like EDIS, but 2 more SuperVolcs have been listed.

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This makes it 6 listed since last week end. All 3 in New Zealand area. A total of 10 out of 16 listed on EDIS. Don't tell me this is normal, or nothing will happen, the odds/statistically are a supervolc going off now somewhere, sometime soon.

Add to this that Taal is having preliminary reports of sulphur emissions and what could be steam venting.
Bromo Mt East Java, people are wearing masks because of ash falling.
Papua New Guinea had a 6.6 plus so far 6 aftershoks of high 4's and 5 in last 6 hours (at time of posting). Shades of Nabro, Eritrea happening here too maybe?

It's all happening in the Australasia area this morning...oh and lets not forget the flooding in Newcastle New South Wales.

Just saying,

Rainbows
jane

reply to post by angelchemuel


Thanks for sharing... This is important stuff that will probably be overlooked. That's our problem here... Too much important news! where to begin? When to stop absorbing info and when to go out into the world and put it to some good use... But then we might miss something important here on ats!!!

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Thank you ZackMorris....looks like it could be a busy 24 hours!

Rainbows
jane

Originally posted by angelchemuel
OK, I know many of you here don't like EDIS, but 2 more SuperVolcs have been listed.

hisz.rsoe.hu...

This makes it 6 listed since last week end. All 3 in New Zealand area. A total of 10 out of 16 listed on EDIS. Don't tell me this is normal, or nothing will happen, the odds/statistically are a supervolc going off now somewhere, sometime soon.

Are you saying that adding volcanoes to a list on a website means they are likely to go off soon? Seriously? I think your odds/statistics are flawed.

I grew up within 50km of all three of the "super volcanoes" listed on the site, as I actually lived within the Reporoa Caldera. These volcanoes were all known and are all within the Taupo Volcanic Zone, which also includes the caldera which is now Lake Rotorua, Mt Ruapehu, Mt Ngaruhoe, Mt Tongariro, Mt Edgecumbe, White Is, and Mt Tarawera, which was our last deadly eruption in 1886. White Island is our most active volcano, while Ruapehu had minor eruptions in 06/07 and major eruptions in 1995/1996.

The last "super" eruption was the Hatepe Eruption of Taupo about 1800 years ago with a VEI of 7. This is likely the largest eruption in the world in the last 5000 years, but pales in comparison to the Oruanui Eruption 26,500 years ago (also at Taupo). But there is no indication that any of the "super volcanoes" will erupt soon, and them being added to a website does not make them any more likely to do so.

Thanks for the information but, RSOE's information on supervolcanoes is just what it is, information. They don't post up those new volcanoes because of recent activity. They've had the list of supervolcanoes on there for a while, they update it with the latest activity but if you have a look at the last eruption dates on them, you'll see they're all a while back.

I'm a bit baffled with the connection to floods in Newcastle too?

reply to post by angelchemuel


I am also confused as another member has posted above.
what do you mean by two more?
If you mean activity, then it is normal. I see the same thing last year and the year before. It is nothing unusual about the earthquakes that occur at these super volcanoes.

Are you going to make a new thread every time one has a quake. I never rely on RSOE for info. I would much rather come here to ATS and visit the Yellowstone mega thread or the quake/volcano watch threads.

So long story short RSOE are making a list.
This is good news the more information that site can compile the better it can be. Maybe they are striving to become more accurate with the info they give because like it has been mentioned they are not the most reliable at times.
I don't see why anybody could possibly get alarmed by them adding to their site with new information.

I find it very interesting that 6 supervolcanoes are showing activity in the past week. I've been keeping somewhat of an eye on that site for about a year now and although I don't know exactly what it means, most of the supervolcanoes hadn't shown activity in years. Now if you look at them, they've all shown activity during 2011. Coincidence? And, as we all know, a supervolcano eruption could be an ELE. So, I for one, think this is something worth watching, not that there is much we can do about it, but very interesting!

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If you have been watching them for years then you would have noticed that there has in fact been activity prior to this year.

Maybe something is going on with the Earth. Who knows.
We won't find out till its too later in my opinion.

Yellowstone added

All your above points taken, but Yellowstone has now been added. Granted the date goes back to 2nd of June. That makes 3 today 4 last week end bringing the tally to 11 out of the 16 EDIS lists........just saying.

However, Chile is now classified as a VEI6, Nabro has just had 2nd eruption, Kizimen in Kamchatka (Russia) has just blown again.

I have been watching for a long time, and no matter which way you try to say something about the list.....the point is the list is growing as is the eruptive power of these volcanoes.

Rainbows
Jane

Originally posted by angelchemuel
I have been watching for a long time, and no matter which way you try to say something about the list.....the point is the list is growing as is the eruptive power of these volcanoes.

Well then the list was clearly incomplete, and it probably still is. If the NZ volcanoes have only just been added, I'd guess they're missing many more around the world too. I don't think it's anything to get alarmed about.

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Firstly I am not alarmed or worried.
Second, I might not be explaining myself properly. The list of supervolcanoes on EDIS show 16 supervolcanoes, (it was 18) next to the listing it gives you a date of the latest report...as with todays 3 reports. You can then click on each individual supervolcano to see in detail. Maybe you have miss understood or not looked because now 11 out of the 16 have now got current reports on them. As I said, 7 since last week end.

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Jane

Yellowstone added huh,.
that park is quite quiet..
Twill be a sure surprise if activity goes beyond its norm.

Lake Toba, Indonesia added

Lake Toba had 5.6 (5km/2.5miles depth) and 5.2 0n 14th June.

This brings total reports up to 12 out of 16.

The two Japanes Aso and Aira were also on report just two months ago. The report status has been removed, however I believe there is still activity in both these areas still, eg Sukarajima.

Just saying.....12 out of 16 Supervolcs worthy of a report, besides what is going on with the 'normal' volcs.
4 last week end, 4 yesterday alone, plus as a previous poster noted, (which I missed) the quote by Openheimer at the bottom of the list added just a fortnight ago. Why put a quote like that on a report site like EDIS. You might not like ADIS or their bumbling ways, but my view is that they are very good at letting the 'cat out of the bag' when USGS remove stuff.

Just saying.

Rainbows
jane

reply to post by angelchemuel


I am having a hard time of understanding what you mean by "added"???
Do you mean, quake activity added or do you mean volcano added??

Thanks

Originally posted by angelchemuel
reply to post by Curious and Concerned

 

Firstly I am not alarmed or worried.

Ok, it's just that I would have considered that claiming a supervolc is going to go off soon as pretty alarming. But glad we've cleared that up.

Originally posted by angelchemuel
Second, I might not be explaining myself properly. The list of supervolcanoes on EDIS show 16 supervolcanoes, (it was 18) next to the listing it gives you a date of the latest report...as with todays 3 reports. You can then click on each individual supervolcano to see in detail. Maybe you have miss understood or not looked because now 11 out of the 16 have now got current reports on them. As I said, 7 since last week end.

That's a bit clearer now thanks. I had looked, and can tell you that the reports on all three of the NZ volcanoes are mostly due to the same quakes, and are not related to volcanic activity. I have mainly looked at these as these are volcanoes/calderas that I am very familiar with, although it seems many of the quakes are relatively minor. The latest quakes for each volcano in NZ was the same quake, a 2.6 centred just North of Taupo. You can find information on NZ quakes at geonet.

The majority of these quakes are fairly insignificant, and would barely have been felt, if at all. I'd imagine the 5 was probably felt, although it was pretty deep. I felt my fair share of quakes while growing up in the area, so these are not anything too unusual. Also, some of the quakes are centred well away from the volcanoes. I'm not familiar with this site, so have they always reported on quakes as low as 2.2 or up to 100km away? Maybe they have recently lowered the threshold for what is report worthy?

These super volcanoes existed long before we labelled them as such. They will erupt when they are due regardless of whether or not we acknowledge their existence.

What is interesting to me is the apparent sudden desire to get them all found and accounted for. Seems like in the last year or so scientists have been focusing on volcanoes and earthquakes and have made some fantastic discoveries. Technology improves everyday, so perhaps it is simply proportionate to advancements. OR they rushing around like crazy before the BIG one takes us all by surprise....

Update on Laacher Zee, Germany and Long Valley, California, 18th/06/11

Here is the direct link to Laacher hopefully!

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Here's Long Valley Caldera

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Rainbows
jane

Lake Toba update today 20th june

They just keep on coming.
That's a 5.3 today.

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Rainbows
Jane

Campi Flegrei update 22nd June

Italy, update

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5.5 @ 40km

Rainbows
Jane